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I'll tell you what guys, I love the Chris Williams pick.
I saw him play twice this year, once against Mississippi, and the finale against Wake Forest. This is what I remember seeing/thinking:
1) He seems very fast
2) He almost always made the DE go really wide
3) He seemed like he had quick hands or quick extension of the arms once the Defensive player engaged.
But this is the most important thing I remember from each game:
He looked like he was playing against a little kid.
I don't mean that the other person was smaller. What I mean is, when you are playing with a little kid, you can often do things that are ridiculously unsuccessful against adults. That is what appeared to be happening against two big schools with decent talent...one of which is an SEC school. He dominated. It was the equivalent to dribbling a ball behind a little kid, then making him turn, and then bringing it back where he doesn't see it. He was the And 1 Mix Tape of Offensive Linemen when I watched.
This is a great pick for the Bears, and he'll probably start immediately. That should bring Tait to the RT spot, and upgrade two spots at the same time.
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Love the first round selection...don't like the second round selection.
I am just not a fan of guys from smaller schools who boost stats hammering weak opponents. There are plenty of options that prove this wrong, but more often than not a guy who dominates in a big conference is going to do better.
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Did you just refer to benson and a rook as thunder to thunder attack?
If we draft mendenhall he would be the thunder (although quick and powerful) and wolfe would be the lightning. Benson is more like heat lighting. His position with this team should be just as brief, and if we upgrade our oline with clady/albert and a g in the 2nd or 3rd everyone will see it and stop using a poor oline as his excuse. He just doesn't have the heart for the position. Combine that with a plate in his ankle and the #32 will be available to next year's top pick at rb.
Yes...I made the thunder and thunder comment in regards to Mendenhall and Benson. From what I have seen, some hope for Mendenhall, but all realize that if he is drafted, he'll be sharing time with Benson. Neither is lightning, and I haven't seen the game or highlight video that makes me think otherwise.
Also, if you think the poor OL is an excuse, you must not have watched the games last year. The OL stunk up the joint. Seriously, watch a replay if you have it. They were brutal most of the season. No skill position players - outside of hall of famers - do well behind a crap OL.
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Oh. Also...
I wish this were one of those pie-in-the-face videos and someone slammed a pie in Rosenhaus' face so hard that his nose were broken.
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If I was the owner of the Bengals I would call up Rosenputz and tell him to go play hide and fxck yourself. His client can sit out if he doesn't wan to play.
Peace
Completely agree. This crap will never end until the owners start to get tough with these dirtbags. Chad Johnson can sit on his ass all year and see how unhappy he is then! If I were the owner, I would teach Chad Johnson's dumb ass a lesson. I'd keep him until his contract was done, and fine him the maximum amount allowable by the CBA. I'd also go on a media frenzy - via my GM - basically saying that Chad Johnson not only hurting himself, but he's hurting my organization, and I wish he'd play.
If that happened, the sit-out wouldn't last past week 4....and if the Bengals were losing due to poor offensive performance, it may end sooner.
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It's a very good start. I'd love to see Albert in the first.
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I'm at a state bowling tournament in Mobile, AL hoping to win some big money. Unfortunately, I bowl at 4pm (CST)...so I'll probably have to get the recap online.
Here's to hoping the Bears don't draft Mendenhall in the first.
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Mendenhall in the 1st with Oline in Rd 2/3 equals about 1300 yds IMO.
Otah or Williams plus an OG in Rd 2 plus any of Forte/Charles/Smith/Rice/insert any 3rd Rb name equals 1300 for years to come.
So if there's no net gain in rushing yards why not grab the better runner? With the Rd 1 OT upgrade our passing game also improves significantly. With option 1 it does not IMO.
DING DING DING!!!! What do we have for him Johnny!?
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it's actually quite a bit longer
Yeah but you live in a foreign country; so, there's some sort of loophole for cultural differences.
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Regarding this conversation...read the signature line below.
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I think he is similar to Thomas Jones. Jacked out of his mind, but more of a speedy and shifty runner who can give a hit when he needs to.
What do you base that on? Have you seen a lot of his games? He didn't appear too shifty in the games I saw, and in the highlights I've seen he doesn't appear to make anyone really miss. Looks to me like he ran where the open lane was in the spread offense.
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I hope he gets 100 catches...
http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4617
(begin rant) Personally, I hate his haircut, or lack thereof. That new floppy haircut that all the young boys are wearing looks like shit. Guys shouldn't have long hair unless they are rockers, Indians, hippies, or bums. It's just a small part of that graying of the sexual boundaries going on in our society that is demasculinizing boys. (end rant)
As for the 100 catches, keep dreaming. There is no way he gets 100 catches with the mastermind Turner behind the offense. There were several instances last year where the Bears had goal-line passing situations and didn't even let Olsen sniff the field! Who the hell else is going to catch thd end zone fade if not a massive tight end on an overmatched DB?!
If Olsen gets 60 catches, consider it a good year.
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I can only tell you this. Jason and I (as well as most posters and I) have gotten into plenty of heated arguments, and at the end of the day, no grudge is carried. I have never seen Jason extend a grudge to posters, or carry over a grudge from one thread to another, unless they directly relate.
Now, if we take a RB in the 1st, all bets are off as he will be ticked, and may end up venting at whoever is closest
Grudges? I hold many. Do they apply to this board? Absolutely not. That'd be silly, because this stuff is not that important considering our relative unimportance. Although, I would say that some conversations get more heated than others, and some posters are incredibly more sensitive than others. I don't hold a grudge against JA; I think he's done a fairly good job.
If the Bears do draft a RB in the first, and it would probably be Mendenhall, I'll tell you all that he's going to be a bust...just like I said when the Bears drafted Benson. What amazes me about the whole thing is that we have all watched the same games, and I'm baffled that people think drafting a RB in the first is a good idea when there are several other more pressing needs.
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I admit that I haven't seen him a ton, but I have seen enough to form an opinion. I have gone to Youtube and looked at a few highlights as well. So, what I want to know is this:
Is Rashard Mendenhall a speed back or a power back?
From nearly everything I've seen, he's not explosively fast. He appears to be more of a power back whose speed was accentuated by playing in a quirky spread offense.
If the Bears draft him, isn't he essentially the same type of player as Benson?
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No. 14: Bears - RB Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois
Rashard Mendenhall may just be the best running back in the draft. (Doug Pensinger / Getty Images)
The Monsters of the Midway need to rebuild an aging and ineffective offensive line, so they're disappointed to see both Ryan Clady and Chris Williams off the board. Even though GM Jerry Angelo drafted Cedric Benson at No. 4 overall just three years ago, this running game is in need of a major boost. Mendenhall is a local product who starred at Niles West High School, and his presence will allow offensive coordinator Ron Turner to get back to the two-pronged ground game that was so successful in 2006 with Benson and the departed Thomas Jones. — John Crist, BearReport.com
That doesn't seem to make sense to me. I thought Mendenhall was considered a powerful inside runner with a little burst on the outside?
If Mendenhall is drafted, it's as a replacement for Benson, not a counter-part in a thunder and thunder attack.
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If the Bears are considering moving up, maybe they do take Mendenhall with 14 and then take Cherlius or Baker at 27. There has been no word on Benson's health, which IMO is some good smoke by the organization. Right now they have their cards at there chest and here are a few combinations:
Pick #27 is worth 680 points. Pick 44=460, Pick 70=240, Pick 90=140, Pick 110=74, Pick 142=35, Pick175=21.4, Pick222=2.6
Everything comes down to who's available, so if Clady or Albert are there I don't think the trade happens. If they are gone, I can see the Bears going Mendenhall b/c they may have similiar grades with Otah vs Cherlius and Williams vs Baker. By moving up to 27 theres a slim chance Cherlius is available and a greater chance for Baker. In reality, we will be giving back SD pick at #90 and a future 3rd/4th.
My picks would be the blue if the trade happened
1-14 Mendenhall RB
1-27 Cherlius/Baker OT
3-70 Woodson QB, Schuening G, McGlynn G Collins OLT, Avery WR,
4-110 Booty QB, Johnson QB, Hills OT, Franklin WR, Zuttah G/T,
5-142 Woodyard SS, Steltz SS, Burton WR,
6-175 Brennan QB, Dixon QB, DT
7-BPA/ST
A lot of Oline drafted, but IMO that's the biggest weakness and w/ a back like Mendenhall I'd make sure he had a lot of talent in front of him Cherlius RT Garza RG Kreutz C McGlynn LG Tait LT(Hills in the wings) Tait can later be moved to G or RT as he gets older
Just about every mock draft someone has proposed with a RB as the Bears #1 draft pick has brought about distaste from me, and a nearly universal reply of "hate it". Your mock possibility, however, is only borderline distasteful because of the start. It's like the peanut sauce at Thai places - the first bite is kinda weird, but you end up liking it at the end. Take one of those OLinemen out, and then I hate it.
Any draft that starts out with a RB for the Bears has to be loaded with OLinemen afterwards.
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PS - I do like your draft prediction... However, I would go RB at 3b.
Other than that, I'd be pleased...
1- Jeff Otah/Ryan Clady OT
2- James Hardy WR
3a- Chilo Rachal OG
3b-Anthony Collins/Joe Greco OT
4- Dennis Dixon QB
5- Tom Zbikowski S
6- Colt Brennan QB
7a- James McClinton DT
7b- Pig Brown S
7c- Marc Magro LB
7d- Ryan Grice-Mullen WR
I honestly considered it, but it was more for the sake of the board's opinion than for mine. I honestly don't think the Bears really need a RB all that badly this year. There is no way to accurately rate or evaluate the RBs on the roster when the OL sucks as bad as they did last year. When Benson was given any kind of hole, or decent blocking, he blasted through and made good gains. I really believe that Benson could put up huge stats if the Bears' OL played like they did two years ago. He's got the speed/burst to get to the second level, and enough wiggle to make it hard for stationary LBs to tackle him. That means a lot of downhill running at safeties and DBs.
It's all about my signature below...
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I don't mind the draft, definitely like the first 2 rounds of it, plus Zbikowski and one of Dixon/Brennan (I think Dixon went too early, but again, I like him and his upside). The only real question-mark I have is why go 2 QB's. Are the Bears realistically going to have 4 QB's on the active roster (because there is no way they could protect one of Brennan/Dixon on the practice squad; unless the plan would be to IR Dixon for the entire season, which wouldn't be a bad idea, and at that point a year from now either Kyle/Rex has proven themselves and the other is sent away with the two young guys competing for the back up spot; if both stink, you now have two young guys who can compete and push each other and one vet whom you could keep around as the crafty backup).
The draft list is more of a wish than a prediction. As for the QBs, it's somewhat of a personal philosophy. I think the Bears should make it a practice of signing QBs with potential in draft after draft. I like the idea of having four QBs, to be quite honest. After this year, the Bears find out which of the vets they want to keep, get rid of the other, and have an open camp with two young studs, and one young vet.
It's never a bad idea to have a good QB on the roster; we should all know that by now. And since we haven't had a good QB since McMahon, it's about time the investment is taken a little more seriously. Both Dixon and Brennan have serious upside and potential, and I think the Bears should be willing to carry four if the opportunity presents itself.
On a side note, what is your personal experience with Brennan?
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I guess not...
Actually, I didn't have enough time to reply. I'm on the traveling for work this week, and don't have the computer time that I normally have.
We'll just agree to vehemently disagree.
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Pass.
I have a friend who is a diehard Seattle fan, and he's hated Alexander for several years. Alexander runs weak, seeks the sideline whenever possible, breaks no tackles, and would get destroyed behind the Bears' OL.
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Would any pick other than Mendy (realistic picks) excite you?
Otah would excite me more than Mendenhall. Actually, if the Bears pick Mendenhall with the 14th pick, I'll be disgusted...and I'm sure I'll hear yet another year of calls from friends - who are fans of other teams - making fun of the Bears' first round selection again.
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If they took a QB in RD 1, it better be Matt Ryan. Other than that I don't want a QB in the first. Brohm is below Henne/Flacco on many teams boards and I definately don't feel he's worthy of going 14 (I could live with him in the 2nd round, although personally I'm not a big Brohm guy).
Also, I want to point out that the Bears QB situation is better than the RB situation. Peterson is not an average back, nor is Benson (Benson could become average or above average, but he's yet to ever do that at the NFL level as an everyday player).
I think many would argue that the RB situation is better than the QB situation for the Bears. Let's face it; Rex Grossman doesn't really scare opponents, and they sure don't get shivers thinking about NeckBeard. And, while nobody is scared of Benson either, I think others realize that Benson has more raw talent to exploit if given the right opportunity than either Rex Grossman or NeckBeard.
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What's more stupid than seeing that someone voted for Ryan is the fact that Mendenhall and Thomas are even included in the poll. Either one of those two with a top four pick would be absolutely insane.
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Just stay put and grab a top tier OT. I have nightmares we'll trade down and end up with the "Cade McNown OT" of this draft.
Bingo.
Trading down is a good way to avoid the higher draft picks' salaries, but I also fear the trade down and ending up with what is essentially sloppy seconds. Although, I'd rather have a trade down that picking up Mendenhall or any other RB not named McFadden with the 14.
is the rest of the world nuts or just us?
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Luckily they have brains bigger than a BB and didn't make the move up for Mendenhall. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the Forte pick, but drafting up to get Mendenhall would have sucked just as much.