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Preach. And there are still people who think if skill positions are added the offense will succeed behind a bad OL.

Co-signed.

BINGO! That's the entire offseason by Pace. Misdirection. He was willing to toss away money for two guys who would likely do average at best, because he had no intention of making them long term parts of the Bears' future. It's a calculated plan for sure. It's the only thing that makes sense, and why I hated how he has handled the offseason. If all of it works out, and the combo of Trubisky and Shaheen dominate for a decade, then he'll look like a genius. I mean, if you KNOW something like that, then why not hide it? The problem, of course, is that he doesn't know 100%, and it's a big risk, particularly for a team that could have used that money elsewhere to lure a better FA. Wait and see...it all hinges on Trubisky in the future.

Overwhelming? No. But that's pretty damn good accuracy and composure for a guy whose main fault was that he was considered an athlete-QB instead of a QB-athlete by some. He had several throws where the only possibly options were catch or incompletion. That's much better than the throws Cutler often threw, or the ones Glennon appears to throw, where it's a choice between the two previous options and interception.

Damn good question for this thread's title. It was a stupid signing. If they wanted insurance, they should have drafted it. Oh wait! They did.

For shits and grins, I watched this. He looks pretty damn good. 1-2: The first two throws are pin-point. Maybe inches away from catches both times. No way the defender could sniff the ball. 3: Roll out, rocket, only Hopkins had a chance. Safe, smart play from the EZ. 4: Good play action roll out, smart rocket into Miller's chest for a first down. 5: Bad throw. Didn't read the LB. 6: Great elusivenesss, smart throw with only an incompletion or tough catch by his WR possible. 7: Nice rollout and throw. Simple, easy. Would have been more but the WR fell. 8: Great pocket presence, stepped up in pressure, easy checkdown throw. Smart. Didn't try to force anything. 9: DB jumped his out, and he still had enough arm strength that it wasn't picked. Just an incompletion. 10: Near his own EZ, nobody open, doesn't force it, scrambles for a few yards. Smart. 11: Poor mechanics, almost a jump-throw, but he rockets it in to a WR where only he can catch it. First down. 12: Smart checkdown to Lamar Miller for a first down. Didn't force the first read. 13: Threads the zone to Hopkins. Great throw. 14: Feels the pressure, steps forward a hair, checks down to Miller. Easy. 15: 3/15, dances in the pocket, shows great elusiveness, runs 49 yards for a TD (holds ball kind of wildly) (NOTE: This is why he is so dangerous. He is Vick-esque, and is dangerous if the D just sits back in coverage) 16: Good pocket awareness, scrambles for a few yards 17: Quick out, fast, on the outside shoulder where only Hopkins can catch it. 18: Throws into double-coverage and gets his receiver killed 19: Good out to Hopkins, but Jones takes it away for an incompletion 20: Good rollout, smart throw 21: Play action, run to the edge. Busted play immediately. 22: Rocket to Hopkins, but the WR bobbles for less than the first down. 23: play action, rocket on the out to Hopkins. A bit high, but catchable. 24: Stands in front of pressure and throws a catchable ball. 25: Good pocket awareness, waits as long as he can and then throws it away 26: Nice throw to Hopkins on the out 27: Repeat of 26 28: Repeat of 27 but to a different WR 29: Good pocket awareness, steps forward and runs for what he can get All in all, he looked pretty damn good. I'd say he made two bad decisions (5 & 18).

What does it matter that Bellamy can work from multiple positions if he can't catch? That's like saying someone who just jumped out of a plane is really good at packing parachutes but can't skydive. It's not like Gentry is a moron, or hasn't played in an offense before in college football. Gameplans are minimized for numerous players year after year. There is no reason why they can't do the same for a rookie WR until the entire playbook is absorbed. Gentry running the wrong route here and there is acceptable as long as he catches everything thrown his way. Which, by all indications, he has. Bellamy on the other hand, has serious drop issues, and can't be trusted no matter how wide open he gets.

Don't shoot the messenger. http://bearswire.usatoday.com/2017/09/20/s...hrough-2-weeks/ Interesting that Whitehair, Sitton, and Massie are well below average. Having said all that, it is PFF, so The team needs Long on the field. And the offense desperately needs two tackles. I'd be willing to be Leno isn't much above the others.

This staff is baffling. Gentry has as much or more skill than Bellamy, and definitely has more upside.

I'm interested in hearing why he's overwhelmed as well. Watson was the #1 guy on my list if the Bears wanted a QB, because he was a proven winner with loads of talent. And from the first game, it appears that talent translated well to the NFL.

That's what I was hoping for in the '17 draft. It made a ton of sense since there were fewer QB options, making supply and demand in the Bears' favor. It also made sense since there were so many needs, and the '17 draft was considered one of the best defensive drafts in a long time. On top of that, the #3 pick is super high...we might not be that high again. I hope Trubisky turns into Montana or Brady, but I feel like the front office flip-flopped the years of their moves. 2017 should have been the trade down, and 2018 should have been the QB.

I was never sold on Trubisky to be the stud of the class. I could have been sold on watson or Kizer too, which is why the trade up hurting so much. This team still needs several pieces, and the alternate draft would have provided more starting pieces. Having said that, I feel like you're right. On the Bears, he probably fails. On another team, he lights it up. Tis being a Bears fan.

For the love of everything draft related, I agree with this. Rebuilding teams do NOT need to get rid of picks. They didn't need to do it for Trubisky, and they don't need to do it now.

What if the Bears had just gone with the Everyone Agrees Mock, or players similar when we missed on slotting? 2017 EVERYONE AGREES MOCK - VER 3.2 (Post-FA) 1. Jamal Adams, FS, LSU - He'd definitely be starting. 2. DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame - He'd be sitting behind Glennon, and it wouldn't feel as bad. 3. Cooper Kupp, WR, E. Wash - Several wanted a big WR. Here he is. 4. Tarik Cohen, RB, NCA&T - I think we're all happy with this one. 4. Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson - Offensive weapon in deep draft. 5. Will Holden or Roderick Johnson, OT - Bring someone, anyone in to compete 7. Zane Gonzalez, K, AZ State - No need to bring Aguayo in. Zane is currently 100% on FGs, XPs, and 6/7 on kickoffs for touchback. That's a better team, folks. And it's essentially what several of us wanted all along.

So much for superstition. Dude is jinxed.

Short and simple, the Cubs sucked but made moves that secured a future. Should the Bears just accept sucking for another year, maybe even tank? There are countless articles about how Epstein built the Cubs. I like this one a good bit: http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/02/19/b...sting-the-plan/ Having said that, maybe that's the plan all along? The Glennon 1-year deal fits. The build up to next year's mega-QB class fits. If the Bears get a top 2-3 pick, that's going to bring a windfall of action. They'll likely get way more back than they gave up this year to get Trubisky. Use a sharpie to pencil in Trubisky as the starter in '18, stack the team with free agents, pick up a tackle (McGlinchey in ND or Adams in Wash), and make a push for the playoffs. By 2019 the team should be primed to actually contend for the SB.

BeLOLamy

I honestly can't remember a time when I thought, "The Bears' coaches really killed it this game. They totally outcoached the opposing coaches. They developed a scheme that exploited the opponents' weaknesses while magnifying our strengths." Has it happened in 20 years?

Completely disagree. If you wait until next week the OL can be blamed for everything. It can be used as a Glennon crutch. The only way to know if Trubisky will succeed is to put him in games. Maybe the Bucs' D won't be as quick to react if the QB has mobility? Or if the Bears run more misdirection and play-action?

I was thinking the same thing. If you put Trubisky in and he : -fails, so what? Same thing Glennon is doing. -does average, perfect. He gets experience. -succeeds? Excellent, we know he have a player. The worst possible scenario for Fox and the front office is putting Trubisky in and watching him light it up. It makes their Glennon signing dumb (it was) and their decision not to start Trubisky poor (it is).

If they insist on keeping Glennon in this game, they need to go DEEP. At least once early in the second half. Right now the Bucs don't respect the Bears passing game at all, and are daring them to go deep. I swear this is the same as it was under Shoop.

Precisely. Might as well get Mitch some experience against a starting defense.

Trubisky time. That's enough.

That last defensive holding call was weak as hell. I almost never bash the officials since I am one, but that was bad. There were no elements of holding. It was just an inside chuck, no extended arms or grabbing. I'm guessing this was part of the crew's pre-game, and the Bears must have held more than they liked in last week's game. Having said that, the TD was happening anyway.

Glennon. SMH. Honestly, I'm done with Glennon already. The one thing the Bears need from Glennon is composure. If anything, it was Cutler's major flaw. That's the reason why he was hated by many. Composure leads to stupid turnovers. If Glennon is the same, and he appears to be, then it's Trubisky time. Furthermore, this is not going to be an offensive juggernaut. Glennon needs to be smart with his decisions. We need a game manager to succeed. If there is nobody open, there are three options: 1) run, 2) take the sack, 3) throw it away. Get flustered and leave the ball unprotected in traffic is not an option.