jason

No way in hell I'd trade up for Peterman. Dude's average.

With all the uproar, I got to thinking about a hypothetical... If the Bears moved from Chicago, would you still be a fan? For those local to Chicago, I imagine your feelings would be a little different than others. I'm not local, but just thinking about it disgusts me to the point of nausea. With the McCaskey's as owners, however, I could imagine something like this happening if the money were right.

You're right about accepting the fact that the Bears are destined to have at least one hole. Per the bolded, however, I think the inverse of that is truer. Putting the right rookie on the OL (see: Long, Whitehair), preferably one drafted high, can have an immediate impact on the offense. Without Whitehair's standout performance last year, we're likely going into this year wondering if Jordan Howard is really the answer, not to mention the already established uncertainty of the passing game. Put one more standout in there at OT, someone like Ryan Ramcyzk from Wisconsin if he were to slip, and he would do more for the offense than a rookie TE who will likely have to stay in to block a considerable amount of time because of the subpar OT play.

Because... 1. Lattimore is only the clear cut top prospect because Sidney Jones got hurt, and still some teams have him behind Humphrey. 2. The Bears have Prince, Porter, Coop, Fuller, and to some extent Leblanc. CB at #3 is an extreme luxury for a team with much bigger holes to fill. 3. He was only a starter for one year. While his stats were pretty OK, lots of guys have had a single good season and later under-performed. 4. His INT #s last year are weak and semi-inflated. Three of the four were horrible throws, and less to do with his ability than the QBs poor decision. 4a. Tulsa - Tipped ball. Just lucky. 4b. Tulsa - QB threw an atrocious ball right to him and 5yds behind the WR. 4c. OU - Really bad throw to an absolutely blanketed WR. If you watch the video, Lattimore looks like the WR because he's got such superior inside position on the pass. 4d. Maryland - One of those Cutler to Martellus INTs where the receiver goes one way, the QB throws the other, and the only one standing there is the CB. 5. There are better players available. Garrett, Adams, Allen all have multiple stand-out seasons under their belts. Bonus. And he's injury prone.

Disagree. They should cut his ass. It's not minor. Did you read the article? He was being a drunken idiot, mistreating people in the bar, and when the cops tried to calm him down Hall "tried to escape and spat in their faces." That's not minor. Then he "resisted as he was being put in handcuffs and refused to get in the back seat of the squad car." That's not minor. Then he got tazed! That's not minor. They should cut his ass. With Porter, Prince, Cooper, and Fuller on the roster, he's not needed at CB. And that's one reason why he's being moved to Safety. He's expendable and should be used to send a message.

I really hope this happens. I said it when they drafted him, but who knew Grasu was going to go down. Whitehair is probably the second best lineman on the team behind Long, and as long as Grasu is average, then the team would be best suited with the following OL configuration: Whitehair - Sitton - Grasu - Long - ???

After looking at everyone's comments...there appears to be a little push for OT in the top 5 needs. As with most teams that aren't good, there are more needs than picks. 2017 EVERYONE AGREES MOCK - VER 3.2 (Post-FA) 1. Jamal Adams, FS, LSU - Great prospect, may have to lead the D 2. DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame - QB of the future 3. Taylor Moton, OT, Western Michigan - Good size/measurables, good run/pass blocker 4. Sidney Jones, CB, Washington - Takes over for CBs on 1yr or last year deals. 4. Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson - Offensive weapon in deep draft. 5. Jarron Jones, DE, Notre Dame - Upside DE prospect with versatility 7. Kenny Golladay, WR, Northern Illinois - Go-go Golladay for great 7th round value Would anyone be opposed to this?

I would be completely shocked if Pace is even considering a QB at #3 at this point. With Glennon and Sanchez, he's basically saying, "We'll see what these guys can do for a year, and we'll draft for value elsewhere. If that doesn't work, the team should be better overall and I can then look a little harder at the next crop of QBs." If Pace had a massive woody about any of the rookies, he likely wouldn't have signed Sanchez. I don't think the Bears have ever simultaneously carried four QBs. If they draft one that would mean Shaw is likely gone. You don't spend a high draft pick on a guy who is essentially going to be the third QB on the depth chart.

I like that a lot. At this point, however, I think I'd take an OT over Ryan Switzer, no matter how much I man-crush him. With WWWM at WR, the Bears have too much potential to get another WR. Help is needed much more at OT, since both starters are below average.

I don't think it's a coincidence either. However, if Watson or Kizer are there in the 2nd round, I don't see how the Bears pass.

EXACTLY.

Let's assume you're correct on the locks. CB: 1. Tracy Porter - (Financial lock), Only legit returning starter, average, costs next to nothing to cut him next year. Likely on his last year. 2. Prince Amukamara - (Financial lock), One year deal 3. Marcus Cooper - (Financial lock) He's not going anywhere, but the majority of his cap hit is in year one. If he sucks, he could be cut for only $1M dead cap. 4. Deiondre' Hall - Being moved to safety. Which makes room to keep Fuller on the roster. Fuller is $3M+ in dead cap if cut. 4. Kyle Fuller - (Financial lock) Average, on his last year. Likely gone unless he explodes. 5. Bryce Callahan -Not starter quality 6. Cre'Von LeBlanc - Not starter quality That's a bunch of guys on what amount to one year deals. Safety: 1. Quentin Demps - SS - He's in Chicago to stay, but his deal is a lot like Cooper's. Only big hit is this year ( 2. ?? - Adrian Amos - FS - He's not a lock, because he's not very good. 3. ?? - Deon Bush - SS - Not very good, but recently drafted. 4. ?? - Deiondre' Hall - FS - They like him enough to try him at another position. Likely Cut - Harold Jones-Quartey, DeAndre Houston-Carson, Chris Prosinski I'd be fine with the Bears getting a CB or FS as early as they would like. Cut Callahan or LeBlanc for the rookie CB, and cut any number of guys for the rookie FS. This is also why I'm not a huge fan of Adams at #3, because he's a true SS, not a true FS. The Bears just got Demps at SS, and he's too good to be a backup SS. Drafting Adams would be shoving a round peg in an oval hole

The more I think about this draft the less I like it. The big names excited me, but I wonder if there is a better option available? 1-Jonathan Allen DE 2-Deshaun Watson QB 3-Zay Jones WR 4-Jeremy Sprinkle TE 4-Brenden Langley CB Where is the FS & OT? Do the Bears really need a WR or TE that early? Why not see what kind of players Wheaton, White, Wright, and Sims are before using a pick? Especially since that draft leaves FS and OT with huge holes. If the draft plays out like they have it, I'd rather see: 1-Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama 2-Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson 3-Desmond King, CB, Iowa 4-Julie'n Davenport, OT, Bucknell 4-Eddie Jackson, FS, Alabama

See, I happen to think he'll be one of those 10-year guys who flirts with all-pro every year but gets beaten out by some freak performer like Watt.

I'd like that, including the first round pick. Leggett goes in the 3rd round, before Sprinkle.

I like it lemon, but integrating everyone's mock into a single mock everyone can agree upon is nearly impossible.

I personally disagree. I think the combination of him, Carey, and Langford precludes the drafting of another RB. I just don't think it's a very big need when there are so many other needs. Having said that, I wouldn't be super upset if McCaffrey fell to the Bears in the 2nd and got drafted. Someone like that could be a difference maker.

Side note: If everyone is scared off because of his combine explosion at the hospital, or whatever it was, and he slipped to the second round (won't happen), I'd be pissed if the Bears DIDN'T draft him. That would be amazing value.

I'm actually fine with it. Decent backup, but not starter material. Adding him would mean the Bears have three viable QBs on the roster, even if none would be the primary choice. The bonus is his pickup would allow the Bears to really focus on other positions.

Looks like I misjudged the ILB talk over the past few days. I thought people were interested in depth at ILB at the least. Yes Votes for QB in RD1 - 10 Alaska - RD1 QB=Y, need a WR Ashkum - RD1 QB=Y AZ54 - RD1 QB=Y, 3rd too early for Kpassa, wants RB late Chitownhustla - RD1 QB=Y DBDB - RD1 QB=Y killakrzydav - RD1 QB=Y, 3rd too early for Kpassa Lucky Luciano - RD1 QB=Y MadLithuanian - RD1 QB=Y, No big issues Mongo - RD1 QB=Y NYC - RD1 QB=Y No Votes for QB in RD1 - 12 Adam - RD1 QB=N Bears4Ever - RD1 QB=N Boston Boxer - RD1 QB=N Bowlingtwig - RD1 QB=N Chile - RD1 QB=N Connor - RD1 QB=N Daventry - RD1 QB=N Dawhizz - RD1 QB=N, No Boulware, Still a need for big WR Lemon - RD1 QB=N Pixote - RD1 QB=N scs787 - RD1 QB=N Stinger - RD1 QB=N *QB voted down unless someone has changed their mind. 2017 EVERYONE AGREES MOCK - VER 3.1 (Post-FA) 1. Jamal Adams, FS, LSU - Really a SS, but Demps is signed. Other options have questions: Allen (shoulders), Hooker (shoulder/hernia), Thomas (not a 5T). 2. DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame - There may be disagreement about whether he drops, but many have him lasting until this point. 3. JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, USC - Reminds me of Anquan Boldin, a guy who just knows how to use his body to make catches. 4. Sidney Jones, CB, Washington - Doesn't start as a rookie. Starts wherever he wants 2nd year. 4. Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson - Still not sure why he's not getting more love. 5. Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming - RB backup who had a good combine 7. Jerry Ugokwe, OT, Will & Mary - OT prospect with good measurables FWIW - I'm making the changes as requested to find a happy medium, but I think the Bears need a 5T DE, and there aren't enough picks to accommodate that position as well as the others above. May need to reconsider as more and more FAs are signed.

The original mock draft for 2017 produced the following: 2017 EVERYONE AGREES MOCK - VER 2.0 1. Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama - Nearly half the board is upset, regardless of the pick 2. Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech - Assures Barkley doesn't start 3. Budda Baker, S, Washington - Gives the Bears a solid back-end 4. Chad Wheeler, OT, USC - Potential for either side 4. Kevin King, CB, Washington - Good size/speed combo, cohesion with Baker 5. Fabian Moreau, CB, UCLA - Rising draft boards, could be a steal 7. Pharaoh Brown, TE, Oregon - Skilled pass-catcher with injury history Yes Votes for QB in RD1 - 10 Alaska - RD1 QB=Y Ashkum - RD1 QB=Y AZ54 - RD1 QB=Y Chitownhustla - RD1 QB=Y DBDB - RD1 QB=Y killakrzydav - RD1 QB=Y Lucky Luciano - RD1 QB=Y MadLithuanian - RD1 QB=Y Mongo - RD1 QB=Y NYC - RD1 QB=Y No Votes for QB in RD1 - 12 Adam - RD1 QB=N Bears4Ever - RD1 QB=N Boston Boxer - RD1 QB=N Bowlingtwig - RD1 QB=N Chile - RD1 QB=N Connor - RD1 QB=N Daventry - RD1 QB=N Dawhizz - RD1 QB=N Lemon - RD1 QB=N Pixote - RD1 QB=N scs787 - RD1 QB=N Stinger - RD1 QB=N QB voted down unless someone has changed their mind. Post-combine and FA, the Bears needs may have changed some, and your opinions may have changed. 1. Does the shoulder arthritis scare anyone off the Allen pick? 2. Is Mahomes the guy since he appears to be Cutler-light? 3. Is the secondary as big of a concern with the signings of Amukamara and Cooper at CB, and Demps at SS? 4. Is TE needed with Sims in Chicago? As before, I'll try to remove my bias from all of this, but there needs to be a starting point. So, here goes... 2017 EVERYONE AGREES MOCK - VER 3.0 (Post-FA) 1. Jamal Adams, FS, LSU - Really a SS, but Demps is signed. Other options have questions: Allen (shoulders), Hooker (shoulder/hernia), Thomas (not a 5T). 2. DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame - There may be disagreement about whether he drops, but many have him lasting until this point. 3. Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova - Lots of options in the third. 4. Sidney Jones, CB, Washington - Doesn't start as a rookie. Starts wherever he wants 2nd year. 4. Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson - Still not sure why he's not getting more love. 5. Ben Boulware, ILB, Clemson - Dude is just a player. Great team guy. Will excel on special teams. Could take the spot from Ski. 7. Zach Banner, RT, USC - Monster (6'9"-360#) with starting RT potential. 50/50 shot one of the linemen pan out as a starter. Let the debates begin.

Love the player, hate the idea of drafting him. Far too many other needs to pick a position that already has solid starters.

I get that part of it. What I'm curious about is the percentage.

Where does that stat come from? If that's the case, the Bears should be drafting for 4-3 instead of 3-4. Based on Fangio's history, I can't see how that's accurate.

Who's to say he'd do that? The Bears threw about 550 times last year, and only ran about 350 (minus QB scrambles). What if that ratio were more like 450/450? That would give both RBs over 200 carries. The Titans looked good last year with a split between Murray and Henry, and I wouldn't be shocked to see their ratio get closer this year considering how good Henry looked. I think the same type of attack could be created in Chicago's backfield with Peterson. I know I'd much rather see a 50/50 split than a ton of passing. This team is not good enough to get into firefights, and they need to try to shorten the game with running and good defense.