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This is everyone's ranking on GBN's top 200 board. If they fall out of the top 200, that pretty much puts them out of the draft. If they didn't make the top 200, I went ahead and made them UDFA. Name Position School GBN Desmond King CB Iowa 31 Dan Feeney OG Indiana 43 Chris Wormley DE Michigan 55 Dion Dawkins OG Temple 56 Adam Bisnowaty OT Pittsburgh 68 Jourdan Lewis CB Michigan 75 Zay Jones WR East Carloina 76 Dawaune Smoot DE Illinois 80 Julien Davenport OT Bucknell 85 Jaleel Johnson DT Iowa 86 Kareem Hunt RB Toledo 91 Cooper Kupp WR Eastern Washington 93 Jeremy Sprinkle TE Arkansas 94 Rasul Douglas CB West Virginia 98 Corey Clement RB Wisconsin 101 Tyler Orlosky OC West Virginia 102 Amara Darboh WR Michigan 108 Obi Melifonwu S Connecticut 114 Vince Biegel OLB Wisconsin 123 De'Veon Smith RB Michigan 134 Kyle Fuller OC Baylor 140 Zach Banner OT USC 142 Issac Rochell DE Notre Dame 151 Ryan Glasgow DT Michigan 169 Brendan Langley CB Lamar 172 Carroll Phillips OLB Illinois 174 Aarion Penton CB Missouri UDFA Tarell Bashman DE Ohio UDFA Larry Ogunjobi DT Charlotte UDFA Stevie Tu'ikolovatu DT USC UDFA Sam Rogers FB Virginia Tech UDFA Connor Harris ILB Lindenwood UDFA Ben Gedeon ILB Michigan UDFA Jordan Herdman ILB Simon Fraser UDFA Haason Reddick ILB Temple UDFA Colin Holba LS Louisville UDFA Kyle Kalis OG Michigan UDFA Jordan Morgan OG Kutztown UDFA Derek Rivers OLB Youngstown State UDFA Taylor Morton OT Western Michigan UDFA Toby Baker P Arkansas UDFA Zane Gonzalez PK Arizona State UDFA Sefo Liufau QB Colorado UDFA Nate Peterman QB Pittsburgh UDFA C. J. Beathard QB Iowa UDFA John Johnson S Boston College UDFA Lorenzo Jerome S St. Francis (PA) UDFA Nate Gerry S Nebraska UDFA Mike Roberts TE Toledo UDFA Jonnu Smith TE Florida International UDFA Trent Taylor WR Louisiana Tech UDFA Jamari Staples WR Louisville UDFA Amba Etta-Tawo WR Syracuse UDFA Jalen Robinette WR Air Force UDFA
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Adam - RD1 QB=N, No Trubisky, Garrett/Allen RD1, TE mandatory, Needs: QB/LT then CB/S, (S,OT,QB,CB,TE,DL,WR,K) Alaska - RD1 QB=Y, Deshaun, Needs: QB,CB/Safety (possible 2nd QB later), RD4 OL agreement Ashkum - RD1 QB=Y, Deshaun, O>D, Kevin King RD4, Chad Wheeler > Julie'n Davenport RD4 (multiple OTs), CB RD1, Needs: CB/QB AZ54 - RD1 QB=Y, Trubisky1/Kizer2, No Watson, D>O, Needs: QB/Safety, Adams>Hooker/Peppers, Chad Wheeler>Julie'n Davenport after RD3, QB #1 need, CB #2 need Bears4Ever - RD1 QB=N, RD1 S, RD2 QB Boston Boxer - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen > Peppers/FS Bowlingtwig - RD1 QB=N, Needs: CB/LT, Need early RD 2ndary, D>O, Chile - RD1 QB=N (No Barkley), QB RD2, DE/S/CB in RD1, RD7 round kicker, Needs: CB/FS Chitownhustla - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB/LT Connor - RD1 QB=N, QB in RD2, CB/S in RD1 Daventry - RD1 QB=N (too many needs, Barkley potential, RD1 QB ?'s) Garrett/Allen RD1 Dawhizz - RD1 QB=N, Garrett>FS>Allen RD1 DBDB - RD1 QB=Y, FS #3 if forced to choose, would be OK with Allen, Peppers overrated killakrzydav - RD1 QB=Y, Watson/Trubisky/Kelly/Kizer, O>D, No S @ #3, Garrett>QB, Needs: OT/S/CB, Kaaya "garbage" Lemon - RD1 QB=N, BPA, Allen potential at #3, No Cam Robinson RD1, high on Fabian Moreau, CB potential 2nd round Lucky Luciano - RD1 QB=Y, CB @ #3 in RD1, Position importance: QB, LOT, CB, DE. RT in RD3-RD4 MadLithuanian - RD1 QB=Y, Trubisky-lite, Needs: QB/FS then CB, TE mandatory Mongo - RD1 QB=Y, Trubisky, O>D, Hooker>Adams @ FS, Draft an OT NYC - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB, WR need within 3 rounds Pixote - RD1 QB=N, RD2 QB, maybe another QB >RD3 also scs787 - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1, FS next RD1 option Stinger - RD1 QB=N, Must draft QB this year, No Trubisky, No Cam Robinson RD1, No Peppers RD1, TE mandatory, Adams/Garrett/Allen RD1, S in RD1 QB voted down. DL leads S/CB in the 1st. -Ashkum & AZ both think Wheeler is better than Davenport at OT, and both are projected around the same time. -AZ raises questions about Mahomes in the 2nd, but seems OK with the pick. -Adam, Madlith, & Stinger think TE is mandatory. Right now that trumps the one mandatory WR vote from NYC. -Two CBs also trump the one mandatory WR vote because everyone seems to agree there needs to be a focus on CBs, which is problematic since one isn't drafted until RD4. Too many holes with not enough picks. With that said... 2017 EVERYONE AGREES MOCK - VER 2.0 1. Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama - Nearly half the board is upset, regardless of the pick 2. Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech - Assures Barkley doesn't start 3. Budda Baker, S, Washington - Gives the Bears a solid back-end 4. Chad Wheeler, OT, USC - Potential for either side 4. Kevin King, CB, Washington - Good size/speed combo, cohesion with Baker 5. Fabian Moreau, CB, UCLA - Rising draft boards, could be a steal 7. Pharaoh Brown, TE, Oregon - Skilled pass-catcher with injury history
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Getting anything for Cutler at this point sounds like a great deal to me. It's pretty clear to all that his time with Chicago is finished, and something in return would be nice.
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We'll have to agree to disagree overall, but two points: 1) The Dolphins did not win with the offense you describe. They got Marino outside the pocket a bunch, and Marino had a bunch of 7-step drops. It wasn't the 3 and 5 step drop system you're referencing. 2) The DL over other positions is not my opinion. It's just what the majority of the board chose. I'm not suggesting what to do. I'm attempting to leave my "picks" out of the equation.
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I don't agree with that line of reasoning. If they both turn out to be pro bowlers, racking up 15 sacks a year, you pay them both and you figure out where to save elsewhere. It's the same dilemma if you have to pay two pro bowl players at any position. Besides, if the two pro bowlers are DEs who constantly terrorize QBs, the CB and S needs are minimized. If the DEs are Bruce Smith and Michael Strahan, you can put below average DTs in the game and have great success. And if you're running a 3-4, all you need is a massive space-eater at NT.
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Adam - RD1 QB=N, No Trubisky, Garrett/Allen RD1, Needs: QB/LT then CB/S, (S,OT,QB,CB,TE,DL,WR,K) Alaska - RD1 QB=Y, Deshaun, Needs: QB,CB/Safety (possible 2nd QB later), RD4 OL agreement Ashkum - RD1 QB=Y, Deshaun, O>D, Kevin King RD4, Julie'n Davenport RD4 (multiple OTs), Chad Wheeler RD3/RD4, CB RD1, Needs: CB/QB AZ54 - RD1 QB=Y, Trubisky1/Kizer2, No Watson, D>O, Needs: QB/Safety, Adams>Hooker/Peppers, Julie'n Davenport after RD3, QB #1 need, CB #2 need Bears4Ever - RD1 QB=N, RD1 S, RD2 QB Boston Boxer - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen > Peppers/FS Bowlingtwig - RD1 QB=N, Needs: CB/LT, Need early RD 2ndary, D>O, Chile - RD1 QB=N (No Barkley), QB RD2, DE/S/CB in RD1, RD7 round kicker, Needs: CB/FS Chitownhustla - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB/LT Connor - RD1 QB=N, QB in RD2, CB/S in RD1 Daventry - RD1 QB=N (too many needs, Barkley potential, RD1 QB ?'s) Garrett/Allen RD1 Dawhizz - RD1 QB=N, Garrett>FS>Allen RD1 DBDB - RD1 QB=Y, FS #3 if forced to choose, would be OK with Allen, Peppers overrated killakrzydav - RD1 QB=Y, Watson/Trubisky/Kelly/Kizer, O>D, No S @ #3, Garrett>QB, Needs: OT/S/CB, Kaaya "garbage" Lemon - RD1 QB=N, BPA, Allen potential at #3, No Cam Robinson RD1, high on Fabian Moreau, CB potential 2nd round Lucky Luciano - RD1 QB=Y, CB @ #3 in RD1, Position importance: QB, LOT, CB, DE. RT in RD3-RD4 MadLithuanian - RD1 QB=Y, Trubisky-lite, Needs: QB/FS then CB Mongo - RD1 QB=Y, Trubisky, O>D, Hooker>Adams @ FS, Draft an OT NYC - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB, WR need within 3 rounds Pixote - RD1 QB=N, RD2 QB, maybe another QB >RD3 also scs787 - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1, FS next RD1 option Stinger - RD1 QB=N, Must draft QB this year, No Trubisky, No Cam Robinson RD1, No Peppers RD1, Adams/Garrett/Allen RD1, S in RD1 QB voted down. DL leads S/CB in the 1st. If that changes, the mock changes. With that said, however, it appears that if the Bears draft Allen at #3, nearly everyone agrees the following two needs are S & QB (in whatever order), assuming the picks are not huge reaches. Assume Myles Garrett and a QB go with the first two picks. 2017 EVERYONE AGREES MOCK - VER 1.0 1. Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama - Nearly half the board is upset, regardless of the pick 2. Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech - Assures Barkley doesn't start 3. Budda Baker, S, Washington - Gives the Bears a solid back-end 4. Julie'n Davenport, OT, Bucknell - Potential for either side 4. Kevin King, CB, Washington - Good size/speed combo, cohesion with Baker 5. Josh Malone, WR, Tennessee - Good prospect, great size, underused at TN 7. Fabian Moreau, CB, UCLA - Rising draft boards, could be a steal
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The best part about the loss is that the Packers made it just far enough that they're not the NFC Champs, and they have the worst possible draft pick they could have without actually getting to be happy about the end of their season.
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Updated to 10 Y, 12 N for QB RD1. Lucky chimed in, but to no avail. The Bears are going BPA in the 1st round. For the purposes of this mock exercise, we will assume the draft starts as such: 1. Cleveland - Myles Garrett 2. SF - QB Now it's time to decide which player/position is the BPA at this point. Right now I believe it's either Allen, Hooker, Adams, or potentially a CB (unless those who put CB really meant "secondary"). I'm going to bold this with what I believe your choice is. Correct me if I am wrong. DBDB, like many, reluctantly chooses FS at #3. Current status: 7 for Allen, 6 for FS, 4 for CB. Adam - RD1 QB=YYMN, No Trubisky, Needs: QB/LT then CB/S, Garrett/Allen RD1, (S,OT,QB,CB,TE,DL,WR,K) Alaska - RD1 QB=NYY, Deshaun, Needs: QB,CB/Safety (possible 2nd QB later), RD4 OL agreement Ashkum - RD1 QB=NYY, Deshaun, O>D, Kevin King RD4, Julie'n Davenport RD4, Chad Wheeler RD3/RD4 (multiple OTs), CB RD1, Needs: CB/QB AZ54 - RD1 QB=YYM, Trubisky1/Kizer2, No Watson, D>O, Needs: QB/Safety, Adams>Hooker/Peppers, Julie'n Davenport after RD3, QB #1 need, CB #2 need Bears4Ever - RD1 QB=N, RD1 S, RD2 QB Boston Boxer - RD1 QB=NN, Garrett/Allen then Peppers/FS, Bowlingtwig - RD1 QB=MM/NNN, Needs: CB/LT, Need early RD 2ndary, D>O, Chile - RD1 QB=Y/M/NN (No Barkley), QB RD2, DE/S/CB in RD1, RD7 round kicker, Needs: CB/FS Chitownhustla - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB/LT Connor - RD1 QB=N, QB in RD2, CB/S in RD1 Daventry - RD1 QB=N (too many needs, Barkley potential, RD1 QB ?'s) Dawhizz - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1 then FS, DBDB - RD1 QB=YM, FS #3 if forced to choose, would be OK with Allen, Peppers overrated killakrzydav - RD1 QB=YYYY/M/N, Watson/Trubisky/Kelly/Kizer, O>D, No S @ #3, Garrett>QB, Needs: OT/S/CB, Kaaya "garbage" Lemon - RD1 QB=M/N, BPA, Allen potential at #3, CB potential 2nd round, high on Fabian Moreau, No Cam Robinson RD1 Lucky Luciano - RD1 QB=YYM, CB @ #3 in RD1, Position importance: QB, LOT, CB, DE. Also, RT in RD3-RD4 MadLithuanian - RD1 QB=Y, Trubisky-lite, Needs: QB/FS then CB Mongo - RD1 QB=YYY, Trubisky, O>D, Draft an OT NYC - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB, WR need within 3 rounds Pixote - RD1 QB=N (RD2 QB, maybe another >RD3 also) scs787 - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1, FS next RD1 option Stinger - RD1 QB=MMN, Must draft QB this year, No Trubisky, No Cam Robinson RD1, Adams/Garrett/Allen RD1, S in RD1, No Peppers RD1
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New England just turns random, regular, barely capable players into stars. Hogan looked like one of the best WRs in the NFL yesterday, and he's been cut by four teams. He played one season of college ball at a small school, and now he's ripping the Pittsburgh Steelers a new sphincter in the AFC Championship game. On top of that, the Patriots only had ONE 1st round player starting for them on offense yesterday. ONE! Beware any player from New England. Somehow, they are better able than any other team in the NFL, to make the sum of their parts worth more than the parts.
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I'm actually pulling for New England. I'm more interested in watching Tom Brady cement his status as the GOAT. We are truly watching greatness with him.
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Updated to 9 Y, 12 N for QB RD1. Lemon broke the possible tie, and Lucky's vote - whenever it comes - won't make a difference. The Bears are going BPA in the 1st round. For the purposes of this mock exercise, we will assume the draft starts as such: 1. Cleveland - Myles Garrett 2. SF - QB Now it's time to decide which player/position is the BPA at this point. Right now I believe it's either Allen, Hooker, Adams, or potentially a CB. I'm going to bold this with what I believe your choice is. Correct me if I am wrong. Unless someone changes my read on their opinion, right now it looks like 7 for Allen, 5 for FS, 4 for CB. Adam - RD1 QB=YYMN, No Trubisky, Needs: QB/LT then CB/S, Garrett/Allen RD1, (S,OT,QB,CB,TE,DL,WR,K) Alaska - RD1 QB=NYY, Deshaun, Needs: QB,CB/Safety (possible 2nd QB later), RD4 OL agreement Ashkum - RD1 QB=NYY, Deshaun, O>D, Kevin King RD4, Julie'n Davenport RD4, Chad Wheeler RD3/RD4 (multiple OTs), CB RD1, Needs: CB/QB AZ54 - RD1 QB=YYM, Trubisky1/Kizer2, No Watson, D>O, Needs: QB/Safety, Adams>Hooker/Peppers, Julie'n Davenport after RD3, QB #1 need, CB #2 need Bears4Ever - RD1 QB=N, RD1 S, RD2 QB Boston Boxer - RD1 QB=NN, Garrett/Allen then Peppers/FS, Bowlingtwig - RD1 QB=MM/NNN, Needs: CB/LT, Need early RD 2ndary, D>O, Chile - RD1 QB=Y/M/NN (No Barkley), QB RD2, DE/S/CB in RD1, RD7 round kicker, Needs: CB/FS Chitownhustla - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB/LT Connor - RD1 QB=N, QB in RD2, CB/S in RD1 Daventry - RD1 QB=N (too many needs, Barkley potential, RD1 QB ?'s) Dawhizz - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1 then FS, DBDB - RD1 QB=YM, Peppers overrated killakrzydav - RD1 QB=YYYY/M/N, Watson/Trubisky/Kelly/Kizer, O>D, No S @ #3, Garrett>QB, Needs: OT/S/CB, Kaaya "garbage" Lemon - RD1 QB=M/N, BPA, Allen potential at #3, CB potential 2nd round, high on Fabian Moreau, No Cam Robinson RD1 Lucky Luciano - RD1 QB=M, Needs: QB/CB, RT in RD3-RD4 MadLithuanian - RD1 QB=Y, Trubisky-lite, Needs: QB/FS then CB Mongo - RD1 QB=YYY, Trubisky, O>D, Draft an OT NYC - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB, WR need within 3 rounds Pixote - RD1 QB=N (RD2 QB, maybe another >RD3 also) scs787 - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1, FS next RD1 option Stinger - RD1 QB=MMN, Must draft QB this year, No Trubisky, No Cam Robinson RD1, Adams/Garrett/Allen RD1, S in RD1, No Peppers RD1
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Updated to 9 Y, 12 N for QB RD1. Lemon broke the possible tie, and Lucky's vote - whenever it comes - won't make a difference. The Bears are going BPA in the 1st round. For the purposes of this mock exercise, we will assume the draft starts as such: 1. Cleveland - Myles Garrett 2. SF - QB Now it's time to decide which player/position is the BPA at this point. Right now I believe it's either Allen, Hooker, Adams, or potentially a CB. I'm going to bold this with what I believe your choice is. Correct me if I am wrong. Unless someone changes my read on their opinion, right now it looks like 7 for Allen, 5 for FS, 4 for CB. Adam - RD1 QB=YYMN, No Trubisky, Needs: QB/LT then CB/S, Garrett/Allen RD1, (S,OT,QB,CB,TE,DL,WR,K) Alaska - RD1 QB=NYY, Deshaun, Needs: QB,CB/Safety (possible 2nd QB later), RD4 OL agreement Ashkum - RD1 QB=NYY, Deshaun, O>D, Kevin King RD4, Julie'n Davenport RD4, Chad Wheeler RD3/RD4 (multiple OTs), CB RD1, Needs: CB/QB AZ54 - RD1 QB=YYM, Trubisky1/Kizer2, No Watson, D>O, Needs: QB/Safety, Adams>Hooker/Peppers, Julie'n Davenport after RD3, QB #1 need, CB #2 need Bears4Ever - RD1 QB=N, RD1 S, RD2 QB Boston Boxer - RD1 QB=NN, Garrett/Allen then Peppers/FS, Bowlingtwig - RD1 QB=MM/NNN, Needs: CB/LT, Need early RD 2ndary, D>O, Chile - RD1 QB=Y/M/NN (No Barkley), QB RD2, DE/S/CB in RD1, RD7 round kicker, Needs: CB/FS Chitownhustla - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB/LT Connor - RD1 QB=N, QB in RD2, CB/S in RD1 Daventry - RD1 QB=N (too many needs, Barkley potential, RD1 QB ?'s) Dawhizz - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1 then FS, DBDB - RD1 QB=YM, Peppers overrated killakrzydav - RD1 QB=YYYY/M/N, Watson/Trubisky/Kelly/Kizer, O>D, No S @ #3, Garrett>QB, Needs: OT/S/CB, Kaaya "garbage" Lemon - RD1 QB=M/N, BPA, Allen potential at #3, CB potential 2nd round, high on Fabian Moreau, No Cam Robinson RD1 Lucky Luciano - RD1 QB=M, Needs: QB/CB, RT in RD3-RD4 MadLithuanian - RD1 QB=Y, Trubisky-lite, Needs: QB/FS then CB Mongo - RD1 QB=YYY, Trubisky, O>D, Draft an OT NYC - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB, WR need within 3 rounds Pixote - RD1 QB=N (RD2 QB, maybe another >RD3 also) scs787 - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1, FS next RD1 option Stinger - RD1 QB=MMN, Must draft QB this year, No Trubisky, No Cam Robinson RD1, Garrett/Allen/Adams RD1, S in RD1 or RD2, No Peppers RD1
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Updated to 9 Y, 11 N for QB RD1. Unless Lemon & Lucky both vote Yes, it's decided, and time to start making a mock draft. Adam - RD1 QB=YYMN, No Trubisky, Needs: QB/LT then CB/S, Garrett/Allen RD1, (S,OT,QB,CB,TE,DL,WR,K) Alaska - RD1 QB=NYY, Deshaun, Needs: QB,CB/S (possible 2nd QB later), RD4 OL agreement Ashkum - RD1 QB=NYY, Deshaun, O>D, Kevin King RD4, Julie'n Davenport RD4, Chad Wheeler RD3/RD4 (multiple OTs), CB RD1, Needs: CB/QB AZ54 - RD1 QB=YYM, Trubisky1/Kizer2, No Watson, D>O, Needs: QB/S, Adams>Hooker, Julie'n Davenport after RD3, QB #1 need, CB #2 need, Adams > Peppers @ S Bears4Ever - RD1 QB=N, RD1 S, RD2 QB Boston Boxer - RD1 QB=NN, Garrett/Allen then Peppers/FS, Bowlingtwig - RD1 QB=MM/NNN, Needs: CB/LT, Need early RD 2ndary, D>O, Chile - RD1 QB=Y/M/NN (No Barkley), QB RD2, DE/S/CB in RD1, RD7 round kicker, Needs: CB/FS Chitownhustla - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB/LT Connor - RD1 QB=N, QB in RD2, CB/S in RD1 Daventry - RD1 QB=N (too many needs, Barkley potential, RD1 QB ?'s) Dawhizz - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1 then FS, DBDB - RD1 QB=YM, Peppers overrated killakrzydav - RD1 QB=YYYY/M/N, Watson/Trubisky/Kelly/Kizer, QB more yes because of risk they don't fall, O>D, No S @ #3, Garrett>QB, Needs: OT/S/CB, Kaaya "garbage" Lemon - RD1 QB=M, No Cam Robinson RD1 Lucky Luciano - RD1 QB=M, Needs: QB/CB, RT in RD3-RD4 MadLithuanian - RD1 QB=Y, Trubisky-lite, Needs: QB/FS then CB Mongo - RD1 QB=YYY, Trubisky, O>D, Draft an OT NYC - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB/, WR need within 3 rounds Pixote - RD1 QB=N (RD2, maybe >RD3 also) scs787 - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1, FS next RD1 option Stinger - RD1 QB=MMN, Must draft QB this year, No Trubisky, No Cam Robinson RD1, Garrett/Allen/Adams RD1, S in RD1 or RD2, No Peppers RD1
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Right now we have 9 Y for QB RD1, 10 N for QB RD1, 3 Maybes for QB RD1, and potential voters I may have left out. Still undecided! Adam - RD1 QB=YYMN, No Trubisky, Needs: QB/LT then CB/S, Garrett/Allen RD1, (S,OT,QB,CB,TE,DL,WR,K) Alaska - RD1 QB=NYY, Deshaun, Needs: QB,CB/S (possible 2nd QB later), RD4 OL agreement Ashkum - RD1 QB=NYY, Deshaun, O>D, Kevin King RD4, Julie'n Davenport RD4, Chad Wheeler RD3/RD4 (multiple OTs), CB RD1, Needs: CB/QB AZ54 - RD1 QB=YYM, Trubisky1/Kizer2, No Watson, D>O, Needs: QB/S, Adams>Hooker, Julie'n Davenport after RD3, QB #1 need, CB #2 need, Adams > Peppers @ S Bears4Ever - RD1 QB=N, RD1 S, RD2 QB Boston Boxer - RD1 QB=NN, Garrett/Allen then Peppers/FS, Bowlingtwig - RD1 QB=MM/NNN, Needs: CB/LT, Need early RD 2ndary, D>O, Chile - RD1 QB=Y/M/No (No Barkley), RD7 round kicker, Needs: CB/FS Chitownhustla - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB/LT Connor - RD1 QB=N, QB in RD2, CB/S in RD1 Daventry - RD1 QB=N (too many needs, Barkley potential, RD1 QB ?'s) Dawhizz - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1 then FS, DBDB - RD1 QB=YM, Peppers overrated killakrzydav - RD1 QB=YYYY/M/N, QB more yes because of risk they don't fall, Watson Yes, O>D, Garrett>QB, Kaaya "garbage" Lemon - RD1 QB=M, No Cam Robinson RD1 Lucky Luciano - RD1 QB=M, Needs: QB/CB, RT in RD3-RD4 MadLithuanian - RD1 QB=Y, Trubisky-lite, Needs: QB/FS then CB Mongo - RD1 QB=YYY, Trubisky, O>D, Draft an OT NYC - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB/, WR need within 3 rounds Pixote - RD1 QB=N (RD2, maybe >RD3 also) scs787 - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1, FS next RD1 option Stinger - RD1 QB=MMN, Must draft QB this year, No Trubisky, No Cam Robinson RD1, Garrett/Allen/Adams RD1, S in RD1 or RD2, No Peppers RD1
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So, just to be clear, I'm a little confused on your stance as well. You were definitely QB RD1 in at least two other threads. Are you saying QB in RD1 is a No from you now? And you're on board with S in RD1?
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So are you saying you want QB in RD1 now? That didn't appear to be your preference in other threads, particularly a few where you said you liked CB in RD1, and wanted to wait on a QB like Falk.
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This is what I compiled over the past few days. If you have multiple letters after RD1 QB, that means I found where you were leaning one way in one thread, and another elsewhere. Other notes are from whatever comments made in various other threads. If you disagree with something by your name, or your slant on QB in RD1, please let me know. Right now we have 8 Y for QB RD1, 11 N for QB RD1, 2 Maybes for QB RD1, and potential voters I may have left out. Adam - RD1 QB=YYM, No Trubisky, Needs: QB/LT then CB/S, Garrett/Allen RD1 Alaska - RD1 QB=N (More sense later), Needs: QB/CB (possible 2nd QB later), RD4 OL agreement Ashkum - RD1 QB=N (RD2-Falk?), O>D, Kevin King RD4, Julie'n Davenport RD4, Chad Wheeler RD3/RD4 (multiple OTs), CB RD1, Needs: CB/QB AZ54 - RD1 QB=YY/M (Allen MM), Trubisky1/Kizer2, No Watson, D>O, Needs: QB/CB, Julie'n Davenport after RD3, QB #1 need, CB #2 need, Adams > Peppers @ S Bears4Ever - RD1 QB=N, RD1 S, RD2 QB Boston Boxer - RD1 QB=NN, Garrett/Allen then Peppers/FS, Bowlingtwig - RD1 QB=MM/NNN, Needs: CB/LT, Need early RD 2ndary, D>O, Chile - RD1 QB=Y/M/No (No Barkley), RD7 round kicker, Needs: CB/FS Chitownhustla - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB/LT Connor - RD1 QB=N, QB in RD2, CB/S in RD1 Daventry - RD1 QB=N (too many needs, Barkley potential, RD1 QB ?'s) Dawhizz - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1 then FS, DBDB - RD1 QB=YM, Peppers overrated killakrzydav - RD1 QB=YYYY/M/N, QB more yes because of risk they don't fall, Watson Yes, O>D, Garrett>QB, Kaaya "garbage" Lemon - RD1 QB=M, No Cam Robinson RD1 Lucky Luciano - RD1 QB=M, Needs: QB/CB, RT in RD3-RD4 MadLithuanian - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB/FS then CB Mongo - RD1 QB=YYY, Trubisky, O>D, Draft an OT NYC - RD1 QB=Y, Needs: QB/, WR need within 3 rounds Pixote - RD1 QB=N (RD2, maybe >RD3 also) scs787 - RD1 QB=N, Garrett/Allen RD1, FS next RD1 option Stinger - RD1 QB=MMN, Must draft QB this year, No Trubisky, No Cam Robinson RD1, Garrett/Allen RD1, S in RD1 or RD2, No Peppers RD1
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First of all, here's the link to 2016. Our picks were as follows (before all the trading): 1.Ronnie Stanley, OT - Selected a few picks before Chicago - Still a need 2.Sua Cravens, ILB - Selected later in the 2nd, even after trades - Filled by Nick Kwiatkowski 3.Jayron Kearse, SS - Selected in the 7th, we were way off - Filled by Deon Bush & DHC 4.Bronson Kaufusi, DE - Selected early 3rd - Filled by Jonathan Bullard 5.KeiVarae Russell, CB - Selected mid 3rd - Filled by Deiondre Hall 6.Dak Prescott, QB - Selected late 4th Still a need 6.Halapoulivaati Vaitai, OG - Selected late 5th - Filled by Cody Whitehair 6.Silverberry Mouhon, OLB - UDFA - Filled by Leonard Floyd 7.Glenn Gronkowski, TE - UDFA - Still a need I think the reason people were so excited about this draft was that so many positional needs were filled. There weren't any "we don't even need that position"-picks, and for the most part it looked like the players picked matched our mutual agreement on team need. Overall a solid, not completely ridiculous draft. The biggest issue is Jayron Kearse, whose size, athleticism, potential, and family name had us drafting him higher than he went. It's worth noting, however, that maybe he deserved to go a little earlier, since as a 7th rounder he played all 16 games and started 1. With that said, this year's "Everyone Agrees Mock" may be a little more difficult. First things first, if you'd like to participate, do so by stating if you want a QB in the first or not. That will obviously be the driving point to this entire endeavor. Just like last year, here are the rules: -Please don't post your own mock. I'm going to scour this board over the last few weeks/months to write down comments/likes/dislikes/etc. to get a starting off point. -There are no trades or FA considerations. -I'll post the mock based on the aforementioned comments. -Comment on what you like or dislike from the mock, and I'll update your restrictions as well as the draft.
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You guys got me thinking about this year's "Everyone agrees mock draft".
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Sort of agree. There are enough guys projected RD 2-4 (Dion Dawkins, Taylor Moton, Garrett Bolles, Julien Davenport, Antonio Garcia, David Sharpe, Roderick Johnson) that a viable pick or two could be made. I'm the President and Vice President of the "Get More OLinemen Club," and even I don't like the value of that position in RD1 or RD2. The only way I like the value is either trading back, or if Ryan Ramcyzk falls to our 2nd round pick because of his labrum issue.
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Just say no to Kyle Long at OT. We've seen that experiment. No. He's all pro inside. He's not nearly as good outside. I think the ideal situation moving forward is for the Bears to have the following lineup: LT: Charles Leno/Draft Pick/FA LG: Josh Sitton - BU:Kush C: Cody Whitehair - BU:Hroniss Grasu RG: Kyle Long - BU:Kush RT: Bobby Massie/Draft Pick/FA Long story short, the Bears need to pursue one or two Tackles in the draft and FA. Either OT currently starting is average at best.
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The more mocks you do, the more names you notice. I present to you the most interesting name draft I could make. 1. Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan - It's a reach, but who doesn't love tacos? 2. JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, USC - Hopefully this would be some good juju for the rest of the draft. 3. Budda Baker, S, Washington - I almost went with DeDe Westbrook for repetition, but having good juju and karma is tough to beat. 4. Fish Smithson, S, Kansas - Fish tacos anyone? 4. Jake Butt, TE, Michigan - My inner 7-year old is laughing. His draft stock will fall because of the knee injury. 5. Chunky Clements, DT, Illinois - Chunky fish tacos anyone? 7. Storm Norton, OT, Toledo - With this draft, a storm is coming.
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Truth be told, I'd probably have a chubby after that draft (depending on what FAs were acquired).