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Drive that Car draft 1. Carson Wentz, QB, NDST 2. Carl Nassib, DE, PSU 3. Leonte Carroo, WR, Rutgers 4. De. Houston-Carson, FS, W&M 4. Cardale Jones, QB, OSU 5. Brennan Scarlett, OLB, Stanford 6. Ricardo Louis, WR, Auburn 6. Tra Carson, RB, TXA&M 7. Tevin Carter, SS, Utah

Screw the Announcers Draft 1. Robert Nkemdiche, Ole Miss, DT43 2. Nile Lawrence-Stample, DT,Florida State 3. De. Houston-Carson, FS, William and Mary 4. Halapoulivaati Vaitai, RT, TCU 4. Aziz Shittu, DE, Stanford 5. Briean Boddy-Calhoun, CB, Minnesota 6. Silverberry Mouhon, OLB, Cincinnati 6. Storm Barr-Woods, RB, Oregon St 7.Henry Krieger-Coble, TE, Iowa

Keeping up with the (Jon/John) Jones's 1. Chris Jones, DT, MSU 2. Deion Jones, OLB, LSU 3. Cardale Jones, QB, OSU 4. Cyrus Jones, CB, Bama 4. Jonathan Jones, CB, Auburn 5. Jonathan Williams, RB, Arkansas 6. Jarron Jones, DT, ND 6. Tyler Johnstone, LT, Oregon 7. Cayleb Jones, WR, Arizona

That isn't an indication of a proper team-building philosophy. It's just an indication of how bad the Bears have been for so long. The Bears simply have needed multiple positions for multiple years, and Cutler has been a better QB than the starters at several other positions. The team has been horribly built, incompetently drafted, and poorly coached. That's not a sign the Bears need a new QB. That's a sign the Bears needed new ownership and management. At least we got new management, and Fox appears to be doing things the way we've talked about for years.

Good comparison. This is a good breakdown of why 3-cone is not necessarily the key piece to look at. Acho did the best, but he's the worst on that list. Floyd essentially has Pernell McPhee's 3-cone drill score, but he's way more explosive than McPhee. In fact, it's almost comical how much more explosive Floyd is. 40: Floyd (4.6) > McPhee (4.93) Vert: Floyd (39.5) > McPhee (28.5) Broad: Floyd (127) > McPhee (107) BTW - I'd say McPhee did pretty well last year. In fact, he was easily the Bears' best OLB. Is Floyd thin? Yes. Will he have issues vs. the run? Probably. Is that going to be the primary reason he gets drafted? No. He'll be drafted to be an explosive rusher who gets to the QB.

Look at the link I posted. In terms of explosiveness, Floyd has the most similar numbers to Von Miller in this draft. No other player really has multiple comparable numbers. He may not be perfect, but if the front office wants a clone of Von Miller, I believe Floyd is as close as they can get in the 2016 draft.

As part of no doubt thousands of other resources. Besides, why compile data someone else has already compiled? My issue is not their data, it is their conclusions and some of their interpretive stuff.

Fail. Try again. Romo double-pumped before tucking it and the Eagles blitzed on the play. The OL didn't fail him. The Eagles had a better defense dialed up for the empty backfield. You know you can look this stuff up before you post, right? You do realize he was the NFL MVP last year, right? They just don't flip a coin for that thing. He didn't go for 4500 passing and 1000 rushing, but the guys around him weren't that great. Stewart has been a disappointment his entire career, the same as Ted Ginn. I won't argue Olsen, because I've always kind of liked him. What I'm telling you is that their offense wasn't great last year. They got to the SB and won it because they had the best defense in the NFL. When they didn't have the best defense in the NFL, but had the best offense, they didn't win the SB. That should tell yo volumes about that team. And if you want to point to previous years when their offense did well behind a similar line, save it. Prior to last year, Manning was still one of the best QBs ever, if not THE best ever, and they had three or four incredible receivers on the team. Nobody in the league can cover Demarius Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders, Wes Welker, and a live body at TE.

Not exactly. Obviously a well rounded team is a great thing to have, but that's difficult to do. You have to hit on so many players to do that. Building up the OL allows for lesser skill players because the holes are bigger in the running game and the passing time is greater. Dallas was a mess, and the only guys who did well were McFadden and Witten. Disregard Witten because he's been consistent. McFadden has not. He got behind that big OL and had the 2nd best year of his somewhat disappointing career. Hence, great OL and average RB equals greater results for that RB.

No thanks. The price tag for Lynch is too high when the Bears need help in many other places. Mid-round is about right. I'd like Dak Prescott in the 4th or 5th if we absolutely have to pick a guy.

LMAO. We should probably throw in next year's 1st just to be sure. That guy should be writing for PFF.

I'm not saying I love it, but he is about as close to Von Miller as you get in this draft. http://www.talkbears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11575

I didn't realize it was as reeediculous as it is. I'll take this please: 1. Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame 2. A'Shawn Robinson, DE, Alabama 3. Kevin Dodd, OLB, Clemson PFF continues to make some of the dumbest football statements and articles in the NFL world.

I stopped after the second round. I don't even know if it goes further. All I know is, that draft sucks massively. A huge reach in the first round and then a RB in the second round? No thanks.

That's utterly ridiculous. The Cowboys juggled 4 starting QBs last year, and Dez Bryant only played 9 games. Meanwhile, McFadden had one of the best years of his career behind that OL. So, simply put, behind that OL, the only starters to skill position remain healthy (including Witten) had great years. Carolina was pure Cam Newton. It's not even funny how poor their team offensive stats look when you exclude his contributions. Just go through the team receivers and you'll see nothing stand out. Same for their rushers. But Cam Newton just had a ridiculous year. As for Denver, they had no first round OLinemen and they won the SB. With defense. Remind me again, how did their offense look last year?

Yep. I still don't see how people can disagree. It's basically irrefutable. Every time a great OL is put together, the skill positions excel. And more often than not, when a bad OL is put together, the skill position players, no matter how good, suffer. If this OL is built up as a primary strength of the team, the need for a RB immediately disappears. Large holes for Langford and his speed means huge, breakaway plays. If it's not addressed, however, the OL is always going to be an issue. The QB never feels completely safe. The RBs continue to get blasted in the backfield. And the protections need to shift to protect the OL weaknesses.

Had to reply again. Turrable? No way. At the very least Neal is a monster at SS, Henry provides a beast at RB, and McGovern provides a stud backup at multiple positions. Add in a freak athlete like Canady who probably walks into the nickel CB role, and that's a pretty good draft. Having Darron Lee turn into at the very least a solid OLB would be the cherry on top.

Pretty much agree with the point of the article. Long should be in at RG where he belongs. Massie should combo with him to make the right side really strong. Please let Stanley fall to 11.

Yeah, I don't think Lee is a perfect fit, and the only other crazy DE stats I could find were for Nkemdiche, who most on here loathe. Having said that, I think Lee could do well given the right support.

You don't honestly see any way EITHER QB is there at 11? I see almost every scenario playing out that way. I hope you're right though, because that means a stud athlete at an actual position of need is there for us.

I've been thinking about the team being built and the fact that the Bears could very well go BPA in many rounds. That got me to thinking what many of us have said... -This team needs a huge speed upgrade. -This team needs a huge athleticism upgrade. I'm not talking about character. I'm talking about crazy, freak athletes that fit our positions of need and also could be considered BPA. I may not even like the picks, but the results are interesting. 1. Darron Lee, OLB, OSU - 4.47 forty, 35" vert., 133" broad. He's a crazy athlete. 2. Keanu Neal, SS, Fla. - 4.59 forty, 38" vert., 132" broad. Great athlete, packs a huge punch at SS. 3. Derrick Henry, RB, Ala. - 4.54 forty, 37" vert., 130" broad. Great cone drills. Benches 440. . 4. Austin Hooper, TE, Stan. - 4.68 forty, 19 reps (high for TEs), 33"/117" vert/broad, 7sec 3-cone. 4. Connor McGovern, OG, Mizzou - 750lb squat, ridiculous strength, benched nearly 500lbs, scheme/position versatile. 5. Maurice Canady, CB, UVA - 4.49 forty, 38" vert., 124" broad, big-time playmaker. 6. Anthony Zettel, DE, PSU - This guy is a high-motor guy, but has also benched 430lbs. (Or Dean Lowry, who did well everywhere) 6. Ricardo Louis, WR, Auburn - 4.43 forty, 18 reps, 38" vert, 132" broad. He's a freak athlete. 7. Dan Vitale, FB, NW - Pretty much an athletic freak at the position. For his size he really showed out. UDFA - Vernon Adams, QB, Oregon. Great athlete at the QB position. UDFA - Kyle Friend, C, Temple - Purely a power-play based on Grasu's struggles. This guy had 41 combine reps, and 46 in offseason reps. I wouldn't hate that draft. Lee, Neal, Canady, and Zettel could infuse a bunch of athleticism. And if you're against Henry in the 3rd, Nkemdiche would be another freakish athlete who could fit into that concept.

Yes, Lawson was available. You're probably on track with this idea.

I know some here are really opposed to him in any way whatsoever. I'm not a fan at #11. But in a lot of mock boards he's falling like a rock. All the way to the end of the 2nd and to the beginning of the 3rd. I think if he falls to the third he's criminally underrated, and should be drafted immediately. He may not have put out max effort at college, but he's got the size/speed/athleticism that makes scouts drool. If he puts in effort, he could be an all-pro guy. At the very least he's athletic enough to set the edge and stretch out plays to the sideline. If he makes it to the 3rd, are you in?

I've done a ton of mocks on fanspeak and I've come up with a very common scenario many times: #11 kind of stinks for our needs. Tunsil & Stanley are gone. Buckner is gone. Jack is gone. The Bears are left with Elliott, Treadwell, Goff, and two DT/DE guys that may not fit (Robinson, Rankins). So what do they do? I hate the idea of Elliott. I also hate the idea of a 1st round QB. If someone were opposed to the DTs, then Treadwell may be the pick. The only other option that I really like is Conklin. I'm not sure if Conklin is worthy of such a high pick. I sure hope it doesn't play out that way. But if it does, would you be upset with Megaquon at #11?

Very well reasoned. I completely agree. The Jets are in a world of hurt right now with contracts and the cap (only $175K? Really?!). They'll sweat this one out and make a deal that is more beneficial to the team that gets Wilkerson.