jason

I'd like to have a stud RB combo too. I'd love Henry; he's a monster. But, yes, the idea of the Bears drafting a RB in the first round is dumb. It makes no sense for a team that needs DE, OLB, ILB, CB, FS, OT, OG, and backups.

I remember you saying that, but I was more thinking about bunching up picks in the 2nd and 3rd, which is where I believe the talent and depth is at in this draft.

I didn't make it clear that I was proposing a trade with a team that didn't want to give up s first. Hence, the Bears are out of the first.

Just thinking outside the box here. There are a few teams that may want to jump into the QB sweepstakes at #11. Teams that could need QBs: Browns - Will draft QB at #2 Cowboys - May draft QB at #4 Niners - #7 Eagles - #13 (recent 2yr deal with Bradford) Rams - #15 Texans - #22 Chiefs - #28 (maybe) Broncos - #31 (maybe) So let's say only the Browns pick a QB at #2. The Bears #11 is worth 1250. The prime target here is the Rams. They have the two picks in the 2nd round worth 920. If they also threw in their 3rd (210), that would be a decent compromise. The Bears lose in the points, but the compromise is pretty good for the value. In this scenario the Bears have three 2nd rounders, and two 3rd rounders. I see great value in the draft in those rounds. Imagine the Bears come away with the following: 2(41) Robert Nkemdiche, DE, Miss 2(43) Vadal Alexander, OG, LSU 2(45) Jaylon Smith, ILB, ND 3(72) Jayron Kearse, SS, Clemson 3(76) Scooby Wright, ILB, Arizona I think I'd be OK with that trade off. No, I'd be ecstatic with that. Huge athleticism, size boost. And watch out for 2017 when a full speed Jaylon Smith gets back to full speed.

After the Jaylon Smith news came out, I've seen varying reports about how far he'll drop. This has made me think about whether or not he'd be worth a risk, and at which point. In another thread this was briefly discussed. 1. Do you think he'll fully recover from the injury and become an pro-bowl caliber player? 1a. YES - In which round would you be willing to draft him? 1b. NO - Would you be willing to draft him? In which round? Very difficult question for the Bears, a team in the middle ground of the league. I think if the Bears were in the cellar or at the top it would be an easier question to answer. If at the bottom, sure, why not? He's a first round talent and it's a gamble. It's not like the SB is within the next few years anyway. If at the top, it's purely gravy, betting with house money. The more and more I see of him in highlights, and the more I read about his play, I, like Agent Mulder, want to believe. I want to believe he'll make it back from injury and be his old self as early as the end of this season, and definitely by 2017. So in 2017 that's essentially picking up and extra first round pick. Tough call.

Well, PFF didn't disappoint. They continue to be the dumbest football-related site on the internet. They, completely different from the spattering of Ronnie Stanley, Reggie Ragland, and A'Shawn Robinson, decide the Bears, who got rid of Forte because Langford and Carey proved fairly capable last year, would totally pick Ezekiel Elliott with the #11 pick. That's just ignorant.

Funny you should ask. I was just thinking of doing the second iteration of this. But then I looked at the draft and it appears that the players we finally agreed upon aren't that changed. As for the ranking idea, I don't see how we could do that. We would have to agree/disagree on way too many players. We've tried something like that in the past and never could come to a conclusion. It's partly the reason I came up with the "everyone agrees" idea of a mock.

Jaylon Smith would be multi-year investment and would miss most of, if not all of, the first year of the contract. I'm not in favor of that in the 1st. Aldon Smith, however, would be on a 1-2 year contract with very low figures, low risk, high reward potential, and even more stipulations in case he screws up. It's minimal investment for a potentially huge return. As for Incognito, he's a jerk. He's a throwback to when bullying and rough-housing in the locker room were the norm. I believe he would have fit in with the personality of the 85 Bears, to be quite honest.

Looks like the Chiefs tagged him. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14877714...fety-eric-berry There goes another option. Figures the year the Bears have top 3 salary cap it would be a shit FA year.

Pretty sure that's accurate. Plus, I think he's going to command big money.

Thought here...which teams are in play? I see the following requirements: 1. Has a WR deficiency 2. Close to being contenders 3. Salary cap room to sign Alshon long term With all that said, I think the two 1st rounders would likely be something mid-round this year, and something later next year. Still probably worth it in my opinion.

I'm not a salary cap guy, but here would be my approach: $$$ Eric Berry - SS Eric Berry provides the back-side thumper with range. He'd be a huge addition. Great leader, character guy. $$ Prince Amukamara - CB Chris Long - DE Andre Smith - OT James Laurinaitis - ILB Richie Incognito - OG Amukamara is a good cover guy, and solid person all around. Long might be long in the tooth, but he's good enough to easily be in the rotation. Andre Smith is better than Leno. Period. Laurinaitis is still a good ILB. All four guys are solid, high-character, team-leader types, which is important just in case... Incognito is a monster at OG. Nasty. I don't care about his history. He'd help this team create a personality. $ David Burton - FS Aldon Smith - DE Burton is a transition for Fox, so he will work well in dime situations and ST. Aldon Smith is my shot in the dark. He's an elite pass-rusher who has issues. If he overcomes those issues, this is a huge pick up at a small price-tag. In my opinion, this would essentially allow the Bears to go BPA the entire draft. There is still need at ILB, 34DE, and OL, but the needs are not pressing.

I've been on the Ragland since he was a high schooler. He's been legit the entire time, and if weren't for the fact that Alabama recruits an entire team full of 5-stars pretty much every year, he probably would have started more years. If he were at a lesser school we'd be talking about a guy who had 100+ tackles every year and much better extras. I can tell you guys he came from a great HS program as well. Really sharp coaches, great community and environment, and he was thought of as a leader there as well. And this is a HS where there were multiple players who could have been the leader. Multiple kids who are from affluent families with tons of resources, kids who have been leaders their entire lives. He was a leader in HS, a leader at Alabama, and he'd be an immediate leader in Chicago.

Honestly? If the Bears can get two first rounders for Alshon, then I'd love it. I feel that way about most players that aren't sure fire HOFers. I know neither situation is exactly the same, but that's the type of draft pick stock-piling that turned the Cowboys of the 90s into a dynasty, and the current Patriots into a dynasty.

Interested. http://walterfootball.com/ProspectMeetings/ByTeam Always interesting to see who the team meets with.

He's getting tagged. https://twitter.com/KimJonesSports/status/704330708387536896

It IS kind of funny how guys rise/fall in the combine, changing how everyone thinks of them and slots them. I'd be happy with a 3rd, but not a 2nd on this guy.

I saw that and immediately knew people would cream their jeans over him. I just don't like him as an inside guy. He may be able to cover passes deeper, but he doesn't have the same instincts or run stuffing ability as some of the other guys. Also, speed for an ILB can be a curse. Slower guy reads wrong and is only out of position by a few feet. Fast guy reads wrong and is off by a few yards. If the Bears were still running the Lovie-2, I'd really like him as a MLB who covers the deep middle.

That's funny. I didn't see that throw. On most of the hitch, slant, curl, etc., he was drilling his receivers in the gut. Very catchable ball over and over.

Spence lost some luster today. He did not impress. All that talk about bumping him into the top ten probably got hushed a bit. I'm guessing he's late first now.

Looks sloppy, slow, Unimpressive. He looks more suited inside as a 4-3 3T than what the Bears need.

I wouldn't mind that idea provided Vitale can block. The bonus is that if the Bears pick up Vitale, we get to make all sorts of goofy voices and say things like "DIAPER DANDY BABY!" whenever he makes a play.

Nick Vannett looks like he has GREAT hands. He started one drill just a bit early and caught a ball. Stored it in the right. They called for a halt, but not before he turned 180 and had another ball zinging at him. No big deal. He just snagged it in his left. Then he did the drill and looked flawless. --edit-- He did the curl route drill and the ball was badly thrown behind him. No problem. Snagged effortlessly out of the air.

If the Bears were to get Fairley, what type of player does the other DE need to be? I see Fairley more of a run-stopper than a pass-rusher; so, I'm thinking a 5T in the draft that can create a little more pressure? Does Fairley compliment Goldman well? I can't say I really have watched Fairley much.

Also don't want Thomas Duarte out of UCLA. I had a girlfriend once whose last name was Duarte and she was a lazy bitch. I don't want anyone on the Bears who might share here genes in any way. Too big of a risk.