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Also don't want Thomas Duarte out of UCLA. I had a girlfriend once whose last name was Duarte and she was a lazy bitch. I don't want anyone on the Bears who might share here genes in any way. Too big of a risk.

Scratch Cardale Jones off the list. Pulled up lame in the 40. I'd say that smells of lack of preparation or something similar. He was a risk anyway.

All I have to say is Bryce Williams was a name thrown around as a mid-round possibility. PASS He looks soft, lacking definition, zero explosion, and his 40 was slow. --EDIT-- And a ball hit him in the face. Right through his hands. No thanks.

No. Zettel is who I was thinking about. I didn't mean to say those guys I listed had all the attributes for my perfect 3-4DE, just that I like them in that role. He doesn't have the long arms I'd like, but he can do the rest of the things I like. I really like his ability to shed blocks and get lateral. He's also a super high motor guy, which makes up for the arm length and late engagement.

Watching the combine and two guys are impressing me today. Christian Hackenberg and Vernon Adams have both shown great accuracy and good footwork. I really like Hackenberg's release point and quick delivery. And Hackenberg's arm strength is good without much effort. Adams looks like he has to load up a bit to get the long ball out - especially the post-corner, but he is putting it right where it needs to be every time. Loved Connor Cook's anticipation. Jacoby Brissett looks slooooow and his delivery mechanics are slower. He has some things to work on. On the other hand, Treyvon Boykin looks very, very uncomfortable and rushed. His footwork is horrible. His delivery is almost circular on long balls. I would hate it if the Bears picked him in the later rounds. He's going to suck and be a bust; book it. Anyone else have input?

Good find on that quote. I love hearing that, because it's the type of 3-4 DE I prefer. I want long armed edge-setters who can shed blocks to get lateral, but also have enough stoutness to sit down, occupy blockers, and let the LBs do damage. If they have a high motor it's an added benefit. Guys I like in that mold are basically going to look a little light or upright at times, but in general they fit the mold. DeForest Buckner, Anthony Zettel, Shawn Oakman, Bronson Kaufusi are four guys that come to mind.

DAAAAAAAMN!!! But now the interesting question...at what point can the Bears afford to redshirt him for a year? With that sort of talent, athleticism, ability, football instincts, etc., what round is worth the gamble of not having him for an entire year? My first instinct says if he's there in the third round, you grab him.

I saw something on three different Bears-related FB pages that said he was tagged. As well as ESPN. I'm guessing he was tagged and Hoge doesn't know WTF he's talking about.

Maybe I didn't make it clear. I do lots of cutting and spinning as well. It's not exactly the same, obviously, but there are often times I'm on a full sprint or back-pedal and have to rotate/pivot 90 or 180 degrees. As for cutting, I know of no other sport where you have to cut as change direction as basketball. It's possible to recover from the injuries quickly, and a repaired knee can certainly handle the pressure. But if it's rushed back, there will be trouble. Not worth the risk when spending mega-millions on a guy.

Yeah, we all pretty much knew this was coming.

Kenyan Drake - 4.45, 4.44. He looked smooth. Good scat-back Ezekiel Elliot - 4.46 on his first try. Pretty good for his size. His calves are monstrous. Tyler Ervin - 4.40 on 1st effort. He looked pretty effortless too. Real light on his feet. Derrick Henry - 4.54, 4.52 at 247lbs. He had a real shaky start on the first run, but looked scary at the end of each. He had a big vertical and broad jump as well. Glenn Gronkowski - (listed as a RB ?) - 4.70, 4.74 at 239lbs, looked slow. He was very disappointed and looked like he wanted to cry. Andy Janovich - Who? 4.79, 4.84. Pure lead-blocker. Daniel Lasco - 4.44. He's destroying the combine. Also had a vertical of 41.5" and a broad jump of 11'3" (2nd best in the last 10yrs). Keight Marshall - 4.29 & 4.31! HOLY SHIT. He looked like a motor. Pistons firing. Wow. And it didn't look like he had a great start on the second run. CJ Prosise - 4.46 twice, but ran very upright. Almost had a Dickerson look to him. I doubt he has Dickerson's moves to avoid getting blasted. Wendell Smallwood - 4.46, 4.45, but he didn't look great. Shadrich Thornton - 4.75, 4.73...he did not fall down, just slow.Kelvin Taylor - 4.58 (Fred Taylor's son) front heavy and didn't look coordinated. He almost did fall forward. Dan Vitale - 4.62, 4.58. Very long strides and arm drive. Almost awkward. Big arms, looked like he had a little belly fat on him hough. DeAndre Washington - 4.49, 4.47. No major observations. Based on purely the above, I'd guess Lasco and Marshall will improve their draft stock. Add in the bench press results and it muddies the water a bit. Vitale and Janovich got the weight up 30 times. Soma Vainuku, another FB, did 26. Keith Marshall, however, got 26. Combine that with his speed and you can expect to see his name pop up on some sleeper lists. Same goes for Daniel Lasco who got an above-average 23. Keep in mind Marshall was buried behind Gurley and Chubb, and he's got great potential.

Agreed. From a fan's standpoint, we lost our first rounder for the entire year because of an injury. I wouldn't be happy if we even took a chance on a guy who is just recovering from a massive knee injury (or more). From a GM's standpoint, he's got to realize he only has a handful of years to prove himself. To build a winner. You don't use a first round pick on an injury concern the year following a guy who was out an entire year. You just can't risk that. Missing two years of first round draft picks is unfathomable, and he can't afford the risk. Not only because of team development, but also because of the financial impact. Taking advantage of rookie contracts is the way to go nowadays in the NFL, particularly if the guy you draft ends up being an all-pro who will break the bank with his second contract.

Not a bad idea. All Nebraska and Oregon (Long & Hroniss). Guys like that get a long well when they have a common bond, especially something as inbred as Nebraska football.

Carson Wentz better be a freaking smokescreen for a trade. That kid is not getting into the second round, and the Bears DO NOT need to spend a 1st round pick on a QB.

If that's all true, and not a smokescreen, I hope he just doesn't address the OL weakly. He needs to go full out and get at least two certifiable, above-average players. Names I wouldn't mind seeing (in no specific order): OTs 1. Cordy Glenn - Love to have him in Chicago 2. Russell Okung - Ditto 3. Mike Adams - He was a pretty damn good player before injuries started to wear him down. Still young enough to have several years. 4. Jake Long - He has had injury problems, but could be a low cost-high reward player. OGs 1. Kelechi Osemele - Probably the number one target 2. Richie Incognito - I know some on this board won't like this idea because he's had issues, but I like his nastiness. 3. J'Amarcus Webb - HAHA...JK.

Interesting thoughts. I think you're probably right. If the Bears are left with the five players you listed, I think they have to pass on Jaylon Smith because of the risk. If there is even a 10% chance he misses a good portion of the season, that's a risk Pace can't afford. I already said Spence is not worth the pick. He should have far more production in the OVC. That leaves the Alabama trio. I think the Bears need OL & ILB far more than DE. That leads back to Ragland, who I want anyway.

We can only hope it's Reed then. I really hope that doesn't pan out like you project.

Agreed 1000%. That, aside from what I mentioned, is why I'd like to see the move. He's been a good guy, has stayed in shape, hasn't bitched, and at the very least he's tried his hardest. Maybe he's good at only one position?

I sure wish they'd either dump SMC or do what makes the most sense: move him to OLB. Put him into the rotation at OLB in a 3-4, ya know, the place where he displayed the talents that got him drafted in the first round. That way he's not a square in a round hole at DE, which was an utter failure, or at ILB, where he wasn't good. Clear the way for whoever else can play ILB semi-competently, because we all know SMC can't.

I'm fully sold on not wanting this guy. The fact that he buckles in the elevation in Denver, and the fact that his stats drastically fall off in the 2nd and 4th quarters, says that he is not nearly good enough for the money he'd require.

I am living proof that the answer is yes. I've partially torn the ACL in the left knee, with a full tear of the LCL as well. In my right knee I had a full tear of the MCL. I do lots of long distance running, so I know the ligaments can take a pounding. I also officiate football which requires lots of high speed direction change to get out of the way of huge/fast players. And on top of that, I play basketball. And I'm quite sure his doctor support is better than anything I received. Having said all that, it still doesn't feel the same. In either knee. Never has, and I rehabbed like a mad-man. I just don't see how Pace could roll the dice on two-straight years of a 1st round pick not playing. It'd be crazy in my mind. He'd get torn to shreds in the media. Everyone would question his abilities and judgement.

Great breakdown

Pass. For sure.

What an odd board! Nkemdiche in the 3rd and Oakman in the 6th?! Seems odd. I'd be pretty happy with it, but I'm not sure about spending the #1 on another injured player.

I would be very unhappy with that pick. The competition in the OVC is very bad. I know this from first hand experience. He should have had double his stats. I don't want the Bears to pick a workout warrior or a combine champion.