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50 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:
They wont be able to resign AROB even thou they will want to . To many holes to fill no cap money to pay 15-17 mil to WR. Wims and Miller need to be gone but with AROB leaving they will overlook their lameness and keep them. Ridley will get the chance to play regularly , who knows if it works out. We have one legit WR in Mooney but as you said a #2. I think the possibility that our first pick may be a WR with them knowing AROB is gone. I am no way wanting this to happen just think it might. So
#1 WR
#2 QB
#3 OT
If one of the top 5 QBs are there , they would need to take him in the first round. LT needs to be the first round pick but I doubt they do that now.
Hard to say what the next GM will do if we do in fact have a different one. We're accustomed to how Pace and previous GM's have approached the draft. Here's hoping we get a new GM and that GM doesn't suffer from the same "smartest guy in the room" syndrome and can actually look at the draft objectively and actually utilize it to address needs. But, like NYC said a new GM may need a year without expectations as he will have his work cut out for him, and it may take a season to see what a new coaching staff needs from a roster instruction standpoint. I really we get this right, it gets tiring to blow everything up every 3-5 years and start over. But reality is we aren't alone in the pattern there are many other teams that have the same problem. We need to become one of those teams that has a good structure in place and are consistently good year to year. I'm tired of watching my team peak ever few years or so and give you hope just to turn back into a pumpkin after midnight.
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This game is a perfect example of why this team didn’t belong in the playoffs and we need to blow this up.
When we gave up the td to make it 14-3 I could feel the blowout was coming. We stopped fighting and started to just lay down. Sure we held the saints out of the end zone after a gift of a PI at the end and getting a meaningless TD at the end.
Tired of seeing a ball carrier or receiver dead to rights for little or no gain only to watch our guys not wrap up or just stand there and watch the run by for an easy first down or score. I lost count of how many tackles for loss that turned into first down and more
Tired of chicken *#*^^| play calling. 7-3 and you have 4th down on the road in fg range take the points. Make it a 1 point game. Then wth was that at the end of the first half??? Almost 2 min and I believe 2 time outs. We run the ball twice for no gain then incomplete on 3rd down and punt. Why not at least try to get the ball in fg range. GUTLESS. We could have gone into half up 9-7 with the ball to start the second half. Add in Wims flat dropping a TD. Is Naggy calling plays again.
We kept trying play action but when you can’t run the ball no one is fooled.
We couldn't move the ball, couldn’t convert on 3rd down. What do we have like 100 yards of offense the entire game and 3 points to show for it. I don’t count the garbage time 99 yard TD drive. Our only other points came from turnovers giving us good field position.
We played undisciplined with dumb penalties poor tackling there is nothing to hang our hat on in this. No moral victories. Blow it all up now.
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Watson s disgruntled. Bringing him here even if he wanted to come. Would cost us too much and I feel we’d be no better off other than an upgrade at QB. It would limit what we can do elsewhere on the team. The irony here is if it were to happen we’d end up with a QB we could have had on draft day and we would have mortgaged the future twice to do so. High price for one mistake.
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I agree with not wanting to break the bank but find a longer term deal that works for him and for us. While you don't like paying a lot for a kicker you also can't afford not to try to lock up a good one when you have them. It's money well spent not having to worry if your kicker can make FG's at critical times that an NFL kicker should make. Pinero can be good but he can't be depended on with his injury history. Over the last several seasons since Gould left I've grown tired of holding my breath on any FG because I don't trust our kicker to make even the simplest of kicks. That hasn't been an issue this year. I feel like Santos deserves multi-year deal to keep him in Chicago. I think we can find something that works for everyone.
*edit*. Add to that finding a kicker who can handle the challenges of kicking in soldier field especially in the winter and adverse weather conditions is not an easy find.
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I do like the conf champ getting the one and only first round bye, and the extra playoff team as well. What makes it different from last year is the #2 playing the bottom seed in the opening weekend. Where as last year the #1 and #2 got a by and the remaining 4 teams played each other opening weekend and then the following week the the #1 played the lowest advancing seed, and the #2 would play the highest advancing seed. This puts the Colts vs Bills, and Bears vs Saints. Which I feel is fair when you allow a 7th team per conference into the playoffs they should have a steeper task to advance.
It certainly is a tall order for the Bears to beat the Saints to advance to the divisional round. Then likely have to beat the Packers, Seahawks all on the road in order to make it to the Super Bowl, then likely face KC. Anything can and does happen in the playoffs but more than likely the Saints getting the Bears will amount to a 1st round bye for them. They are beatable but not sure we have what it takes to do so. If our D could actually play up to it's talent level then maybe. I'll be hoping for a win but preparing for another 1 and done.
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For sure, we lost so many games while trying to find a solution at kicker. Santos has been solid. Pay the man to keep him. It is ironic in all this mess that has been the 2020 season we actually found a kicker.
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Words can't even come close to describe how much I hate the Packers. I want to see them get beat bad coming out of their precious first round bye. I want Rodgers to retire and then to see them suck for eternity.
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Then we follow it up with a bad pick. nice...
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and that's the ball game. Down 12 with under 4 to go and it takes us forever to move the ball. Red zone failure is the story of this game along with the D letting GB do whatever they want.
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2 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:
Weird to have to be worried about the D playing well.
Ironic isn't it. The offense finally can do something then the D just escorts the opponent to the end zone. We can never get even 2 of the 3 phases to play well in one game
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5 minutes ago, jason said:
This is ND vs Bama. The Bears may be able to score by grinding out drives, but it doesn’t matter if GB scores with such ease.
This 100%. Settling for FG's in the red zone won't help when we let GB do whatever they want on offense. They also got a huge break on the "fumble" by Kmet he was down when the ball came loose, ruled wrong on the field and then again on review.
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7 minutes ago, 50england50 said:
Hope Roquan comes back. Fingers crossed.
Shame that Danny was matched up on the speedy wideout
Danny had no shot at cover a WR like that especially after faking the blitz. That was too easy. Can't gift them TD's
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D needs to step up here. Too many missed tackles. Can't allow GB to find a rhythm on offense. Need to be more disruptive. Hope Roquan isn't hurt too bad.
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On 12/30/2020 at 12:07 AM, jason said:
Just say no to RPO.
Run-oriented, play-action pass is what has been working.
Agree, do what we do best. If that’s not enough so be it. I don’t expect a win. I’m hooping we make a game of it. A win would be great for so many obvious reasons. Knocking GB out of the #1 seed to clinch our own playoff spot would be sweet. They have been that bully that keeps taking our lunch money. Time to fight back.
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7 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:
With Foles back there you don’t have the mobility of Mitch and can pretty much crash the line every time. It’s crazy to see how a few tweaks, mostly since Lazor started calling the plays, how much improved they’ve gotten. ‘If only’ Nagy had done it sooner...
Amen,
Had Nagy put his ego aside and done what was best for the team, we don't drop 6 in a row after a shaky at 5-1 start. We'd probably be in the hunt for the division and have a shot to make some noise. If indeed Nagy and Pace are gone after the season it's their own faults. They let the team down.
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On 12/11/2020 at 2:54 PM, BearFan NYC said:
Well remember that Ernie Accorsi picked Pace, and he has as much NFL cred as anyone.
I think the thing is, whether you're looking for a GM or a franchise QB, that there are no proven winners available. You either have to take someone who's won before but has been in decline, or you have to take someone young who has promise but hasn't proved it yet. And that means that you take a risk.
I think you take that younger guy and you give him a few years to grow, and then you find out if you found the next superstar or not.
Pace, Nagy, Trubisky, Philips - none of you is a superstar. Thanks for trying.
Let's take another swing of the bat. No one know for sure, but once youve evaluated them in the NFL for a few years THEN you do know. So I cant say who the right pick is, and we might swing and miss again, but it's time to trade in the cards we have and take new ones.True, Ernie was thought to be a guru. But there's also a difference in having to hire or consult a so called expert because your team President is an idiot. To me it's telling that last time around we knew we couldn't leave the call solely to Phillips and needed to bring in a consultant for the hire. At the time Pace had a lot of potential upside. We went with the young guy and gave him time to grow and it didn't work out.
My thinking is that if we had a Team President with actual experience running a team/managing a roster and not having to hire an outside consultant, we'd be in a better position to finally hit on the GM spot. I feel like this could be a key to turning it around. Ted is just a numbers guy. My main point is having someone more qualified in that role can only help our chances of getting it right this time. -
GM's in Chicago failing at the top of the draft and doing better later in the draft has been a theme here for years. All with slight different philosophies. Angelo loved to trade down, Emery was more of a stay put guy if I remember right. Pace has always tended to trade up. He's hit more on his mid/later rounds but has been horrific in the first round aside from Smith.
Whoever our GM will be this coming draft his focus needs to be on solidifying both lines in particular our offensive line. We need a GM who flexible creative and willing to move up if the risk/reward is worth it, or move down when there's more value in adding picks, and one who knows. when to stay put. Pace has conviction albeit often misguided. He's more a swing for the fences risk be dammed. Other GM's know that and know he can be enticed when he's enamored with a certain player. Good GM's understand every draft is different, and each one evolves as it goes. They must understand where the value is at each position. I feel like Pace goes into the draft with his plan and will press forward with it regardless of what happens. It's annoying to watch good players fall to the Bears but we pass on them to reach for someone else.
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18 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:
And you didn't even list out Rick Smith, who built the Texans up and than had to step down due to some family health matters. He was an excellent GM and did a really nice job building up the Texans during his time there. I'd probably say Smith is more of a president type who you would hire and he would than figure out his GM.
I'd be ok with this. A guy like Smith who's been a good GM taking sweaty Teddy's place might be just the kind of change this franchise needs. Having his experience in the hiring process for a new GM would finally give us someone who actually knows what to look for in a GM who could turn this thing around for good. For decades now we've been changing the tires and rims on the car when the engine is faulty. Get a good president who is a real football guy to hire a good GM, who in turn can hire a good coach, and in turn hire good coordinators and staff. It's not like Smith isn't a GM because he was let go. He was good at it but needed to step down for personal reasons. Another thing I like about that is he would have a better perspective to give advice when his GM is looking at making a trade or signing, etc.
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This upcoming draft is a good one to get out future QB and also address the OL. We should pick high enough to have our pick of at least 3 of these guys. Having a guy like Trask who's a big body QB more in the mold of Big Ben in theory helps with his durability, and should make him harder to bring down. Definitely will have to look at some film. It is interesting how Lawrence stacks up to the other QB's in the draft based on these stats. His experience is a valuable thing that teams will like. But it could also be that he goes first but is then overshadowed by guys who go later. Happens all the time. We don't need to find the best of these 5, we just need to find the best one that fits our team and whoever the new gm/coach will be.
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On 12/7/2020 at 1:23 PM, Connorbear said:
The Bears organization does not fire in season. You guys have been fans long enough to know this. It's a useless topic.
Peace
And in a way keeping everything as is and cleaning house at the end of the season actually improves our chances of the new regime having a better draft position. Making a change now like Firing Nagy and/or Pace could be spark that causes us to win meaningless games and cost us draft position. I hate losing for draft position but since there's pretty much nothing to gain in winning games now.
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Fox also did a lot to clean up the toxic locker room left by Dr Death. Things were a mess when he took over.
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Samual, Akers, Booker, Murry, and Williams are all available. I'm tempted to go after Samual and I'm pretty sure he won't clear waivers. My current roster is:
QB - Rodgers
RBs - Kareem Hunt, Wayne Gallman, David Johnson, Duke Johnson, Mike Davis, and Gus Edwards.
WRs - Hopkins, Theilen, Diante Johnson, Jakobi Meyers, Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, and Dez Bryant.
TEs - Ebron and Kittle
K - Crosby
D/ST - Seahawks
We have 3 RES slots which currently I have Theilen, David Johnson, and Kittle in. I'll drop someone to move Theilan out and another if David Johnson returns. Likely will drop Dez, Christian Kirk, Gus Edwards, possibly even pitman. I think I'll hang on to Duke and Davis given the fragility of Johnson and McCaffery. I've become concerned about some guys like Hopkins and Hunt. I don't have the greatest confidence in my RB's and only slightly more in my WR's. If Hopkins can return to form and getting Thailen back helps. Diante's been a decent pickup but the rest are meh. On the bright side Ebron and Diante did enough yesterday to help me squeak out a win and remain in the #2 seed. But I'm looking to try and patch some holes before playoffs start and possibly limp to the finish line. The team started out the season strong but hit the skids there's only 4 players on my roster that I actually drafted (Hunt, David Johnson, Kittle, Hopkins, and Theilen. Thank goodness I traded Brees earlier in the season.
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Looking like I might squeak out a win this week. Even if I don't I should remain the #2 seed in my league. But there are enough teams that could challenge me for that spot and things go really poorly I could even find myself on the outside looking in if I don't win next week (especially if I don't pull it out this week. In our league we have a waiver priority number rather than a FAB system. The priorities don't reset each week. So I currently have the #2 priority. If I use it I move to the back of the line. I've been hit hard with injuries and COVID so the waiver wire has been extra important down the stretch. I'm wondering if there is a player out there that is a must add that would be worth spending my priority on this week or if I should just hold off this week or for the post season (Weeks 15-16), when there are more clear must adds. Some players I'm looking at are Debo Samual, Cam Akers, Devante Booker (if Jacobs can't go), Latavious Murray, Jamaal Williams, Kirk Cousins. Should I hold off and see who clears waivers. I usually wake up early on the mornings after the waivers are processed to see who cleared.
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If Pace is gone the new GM must be able to hire his own HC. Forcing a new GM to keep an ineffective coach and staff severely hinders the GM search setting up the inevitable next rebuild. The only situation where this would even make sense is if you have great coach and staff but a piss poor GM that is clearly holding the team back. Here everyone from top down is hindering this team. At the very least you fire Pace, and the new GM gets to decide if he wants to keep Nagy and his staff or start fresh with his guy. Idealy I want it all gone, Teddy, Pace, Naggy, all the way down to the water boy. Purge the heck out of this organization. Sad reality is whoever is running the show after this season will have a steep uphill climb to remaking this team into a consistent winner. We have some good young talent on the team but need to cut the dead weight. We've highly invested in the defensive side of the ball but when you watch the games it doesn't show. Guys out of position, not tackling, high paid pass rushers getting little or no pressure. With the money we spent and the supposed talent we have in our front 7 we should be harassing QB's on the regular, yet we don't. It starts up front if you can't get home your secondary gets exposed because they have hold their coverages longer. On offense we are limited by talent at QB, OL, and WR.