BearFan2000

I agree. If we go DB with our #3 pick I'd rather it be one of Adams or Hooker (in that order). Both are rare talents and would bring game changing abilities to the secondary provided Hooker stays healthy. We have two wild cards picking ahead of us who the heck knows what Cleveland will do, it's Cleveland nuff said. Niners could go any number of ways and will depend a lot on what the Browns do at 1. Who knows we could be sitting at 3 with Garrett on the board.

That's my thinking as well. Browns and/or Niners could be wild cards. If either of them flinches and pulls the trigger on a QB or say Browns take QB, and Niners take Fournette we are in a golden position to have our pick of the defensive studs at the top. If they both wiff and we can take Garret it's a no brainer. But even if one of the two does our pick becomes instantly more valuable. It is exciting, and while these are rumors and the smoke is thick with the draft starting in mere days this would be a dream scenario. I'd be happy with Garret, Thomas, Adams, etc. at 3. It would certainly change the landscape of the top end f the draft a bit. No doubt Pace's phone would be ringing off the hook with teams wanting to jump up for Garret.

Didn't hear the report on the heard, but trading up from #3 for Watson or any of the QBs would be asinine. However if they are referring to trading up from #36 that makes more sense. Or some combination of trading down from #3 and using the extra picks as ammunition to move into the back half of round one makes sense too.

That's why I'd prefer Adams to either Allen or Hooker. Not that all three won't have a big impact on their teams. I'd prefer going with the one with fewer question marks. As for who we'd regret not taking hard to predict even immediate impact much less 2 years from now but if your talking long term I'd say Watson or Keizer. I think both will need some grooming but I think both have bright futures as starters. I'll also throw Adams into the group because I feel like he could be one of those rare enforcers at safety. Allen and Hooker qualify too as teams will pass possibly/likely pass on them due to questions about health, and they may go on to have long productive careers. Risk/reward. It's also hard to know how this draft will go anyone we name here could be someone we draft. It'd be an interesting question to ask after the draft knowing who we passed on. Definitely can't wait for the draft day to be here to find out how it all goes down. It's like waiting to open presents on Christmas/birthday.

Seem's eerily familiar somehow. I think we've ben watching that movie for Cutler's tenure here. Fool me once, fool me twice, etc. I'd rather have a mechanically sound QB than a guy who's all over the place which can work in college but rarely works in the NFL.

That would be a nice scenario. Aside from something like this I'd prefer we stay at 3 take a defensive stud, trade back into the back half of round one and take a QB if we are set on taking a Watson, Trubisky, Keizer, etc. I don't want the #3 pick used on a QB not worthy of that pick just because he's a QB. I seriously doubt Pace will take a QB at 3 if we stay at #3. You don't throw away the value of taking a stud defensive player there to reach on a QB who has question marks and they all do.

No doubt, if Cleveland is that stupid which we know they possibly are. And if SF some how ops to pass as well, it's a literal no brainer that you take Garrett at #3. I doubt it happens though. Cleveland has the picks to trade for an additional later first round pick in order to take Garrett at #1 and taking Trubisky later in the first. In the same vein we could stay at 3 and take BPA, and trade up from our 2nd (36th) pick into the mid/lower first round and take a QB there. Nabbing a Defensive stud at 3, and getting a QB to groom behind Glennon would be a good start. We could even trade down a few slots from 3 still get a stud, and pick up extra picks. There definitely will be options available especially depending who's there at 3 and Pace's phone starts ringing. I wish the draft were this weekend 15 more days. This is when the rumor mill starts going nuts.

As a ND fan, I completely agree with your assessment of last year. The Irish were painful to watch. He didn't get much help from his teammates or coaching. Their record felt worse than 4-8. It has hurt Keizer's stats and potential and partly the reason he opted to enter the draft rather than return to ND this year. Another year in a disappointing Irish program could drop him further. I've felt his situation didn't present the opportunity to shine as much as it could have. It is interesting that the Bears have shown a lot of interest in him. I could see them working some deal to secure him. If we do draft him I hope it means we traded down vs taking him at 3. #3 is too valuable a slot to reach that far, if you want him trade down and get him and an additional pick at least.

Can't help either would not like that pick either. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in all these mocks. They are interesting to look at but I don't think we take OJ at #3. It think our odds of a QB at 3 (or trade down for one) are better than a TE. I would bet it would be between Thomas, Allen, or Adams.

Kinda reminds me a little of Mike Brown. He would be an enforcer in the secondary that we haven't had in a long time. In a heavy passing league having play makers in your secondary that offenses have to account for and even fear is a valuable commodity. He plays with attitude, intensity, hits like a hammer, and has a nose for the ball. He strikes me as the kind of guy who can elevate his teammate's play as well. Safety is a crowded position on our roster with Fuller and Hall possibly moving to safety, but it's also a position not exactly stacked with impact players. I do also like Solomon Thomas at 3 as well as a disruptive force. Allen would be an impact player early in his career but his physical health/longevity scares me a bit at #3. I wouldn't rule out Lattimore either. It'll certainly be interesting to see what we do at 3 or if we trade down for one of the QB's and extra picks. Based on who is there or who likely will be can make it hard to pass up and trade down.

On taking a QB high. Like others on here I'm sure, I've gone back and forth in my mind on taking a QB high. What I don't want is for Pace to feel like he has to bow to the pressure of taking one high to take one high in an effort to "address the situation." We have to address the position but we have to be smart about how we do it. If we feel one is worth the reach to take at 3, or trade down for, then I can understand going for it. It is a risk at 3 as you are passing on players who are safer bets to be impact players, less of a risk by trading down though to do that you are trading out of a spot to take an arguably safer prospect. I could see us going D with our #3 pick. The con to that is with such a high draft pick at 3 which we hopefully won't have next year may mean needing to trade up for a QB next year vs this year having the ammunition to trade down for a QB and extra picks to work with. That said perhaps next year's QB class will have guys more worthy of trading up to get than this years has at reaching or trading down to get. Pace may very well see this years QB class and feel the quality isn't worth spending a pick in the early rounds and will take his chances with Glennon/Sanchez/Shaw holding the position in 2017 and looking to 2018 to re-evaluate with the hindsight of Glennon's first season in Chicago. He would no doubt get flack for not addressing the QB early if at all in this year's draft, but better to make the hard/unpopular right call than blow it to appease the masses who may be happy about us taking a QB high but will no doubt rip him to shreds if the QB fails. I would like to see us take a QB this year, but only if we see one that we believe can be a starter by season's end or next season. I don't see a point in drafting one if all they'll ever be is a backup or average at best. We already have those guys on our roster. What does stink is that our #3 pick comes in a draft where the QB position isn't as strong as it will be next year but none of us want to see us pick this high again next year.

I agree with much of the sentiment on a QB at 3. And it would help the Glennon signing make more sense. It could make it a win win situation. Glennon while he has had limited starts in his career, is still early in his career, has shown flashes, and hasn't had the wear and tear on his body. They are paying him starter money for this coming season. If you draft a QB be it Watson, Trubisky, or Keizer the pressure won't be there to step in and start day one. If you can land one who can be the QB of the future and has that "it" quality to them. He can work his way into the lineup without being forced in. If Glennon proves to be worth the pay and is a good fit for the offense it's a win, if that happens and your drafted QB is also a capable QB of the future, it's a win win and a problem we've never had before. The other scenario is also possible that both would suck and we find ourselves still looking for a franchise QB but then what's new? Nothing risked nothing gained. But I think it's worth taking that risk and grabbing a QB at 3. It's been a position of weakness for far too long to ignore it or take it lightly. We could get lucky later in the draft but the later you pick one the more of a project he'll likely be. Finding the gems like Brady later in the draft are not the norm. That said I also feel DL is a possibility. The stronger our D is the less pressure a new QB and retooled offense will have on their shoulders. We made the playoffs with Kyle Orton at QB and the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman. I would not be opposed to defense here but only if you take a QB somewhere in the first 3 rounds. S/CB is pushing it as it is a deep DB draft I don't think you have to take one that high. Pace does like to go BPA without losing sight of need.

I don't think the officiating had a bearing on the outcome. We can micro analyze every play and find missed calls both ways. What did have an impact is Atlanta not making halftime adjustments and the Patriots made adjustments. I feel like Atlanta got complacent up 28-3 and let off the gas, NE took advantage and went to work. Lack of super bowl experience played a part in it. I remember thinking when Atlanta built that lead and they were celebrating on the sidelines that they need to keep working cause there is a lot of football left to play. You can't let your guard down or take your foot off the gas against a team like the Patriots. Once you lose momentum it's very difficult to recapture it. What ultimately killed the Falcons was the drive where they were in field goal range up by 8 with a chance to extend it back to a two score game. Ryan took a sack because he held the ball too long, then a holding penalty put them out of FG range and rather than a lead extending FG attempt or a TD, they punt and the rest is history. It sucks because I was rooting hard for the Falcons because I'm sick of the Patriots for a number of reasons. But they played a whale of a second half to come back and win and you have to give them props for that. The SB was there for the taking for the Falcons and they failed to realize it's a 60 minute game not a 30.

I'd take the Wilkerson trade in a heartbeat. We'd have to sweeten the pot for sure. I'm sure most of us would take what we can get for Cutler. He has no future here, but to a team looking for a 1-2 year stop gap might be interested. No one like us looking for a long term solution will be interested outside of being a backup and he'd make for an expensive backup. It'll for sure be interesting to see what we do at the QB position this offseason and next season.

Definitely, you look at teams in the league that are more often than not in the conversation/mix and look at the teams that have had or tend to have consistent coaching vs cleaning house every 3-5 years or so. As dirty as it makes me feel you can put the Pats in there too, minus the cheating. Lovie was our longest tenured coach since Ditka, other than that they've short lived. Since Ditka (11) it's been Wanny (6), Jauron (5), Lovie (9), Trestman (2), and now Fox (2 and counting). Our front office hasn't been exactly stable either. Here's hoping that things become stable and we grow a culture of winning that will last. Not sure how long Fox will be here. Fox/Pace inherited a dumpster fire and if you go on record alone you'd say things haven't improved. But I feel like the culture has improved vastly from Trestman's time, and the team has young talent, and will need to keep adding to that through the draft and FA. The Bears were more competitive this year, but didn't have enough talent or healthy body's for it to show in the record. This offseason will be crucial (I know that's obvious).

No argument here, I think we'd all rather see our Bears as a perennial playoff team than what we've had. Can't win it if you aren't it. It remains to be seen if the current ownership/coashes can build the Bears into just that. Sometimes you have to reach bottom before you climb. It's been a drought since mid-late 80's with occasional playoff appearances sprinkled in. We all long for our team to get out of the rut of mediocrity where we aren't bottom feeders but aren't regular contenders either.

Shame on me for missing this game. Sounds like it was a thing of beauty seeing the pompous Packers cut down to size. They are making a habit of choking in the playoffs. Seeing Rodgers frown instead of that arrogant smirk is always a welcome site. While we've struggled to find a franchise caliber QB we've watched the Packers virtually waste one by surrounding him with crap.

I like the enthusiasm, and he has a valid point with the injuries and we were a far more competitive team than our record indicates. Superbowl though is awful lofty. What I find interesting to me is that Jeffery having finished the season as a tagged player. Talking about next year. Now I've been pretty busy and haven't kept up with all the latest news on his contract situation or new contract talks. It at least indicates he wants to be here next year or assumes he will be. Whether that's under the tag again or a new contract. I would be interested in having him back under a new contract but don't want to see us pay him a crazy contract. His health has been a question mark the last few years. Hate to invest a lot of cap space on a player you can't always count on to be on the field.

TY Still getting used to married life, but enjoying the adjustment. We booked a cabin in the Smokey Mountains for the honeymoon. Tuesday was our first day back to the real world lol We didn't want to leave TN it was so beautiful this time of year. She's a Colts and Bears fan so I did well lol Thankfully she isn't a Packer fan that would be tough to overcome

Good hard fought series for both teams. Cleveland played a heck of a series as did our Cubs so proud of them for hanging in there when things seem to be slipping away for them they hung tough rallied and played their hearts out for a win. What an amazing game 7! Hats off to the Cubs for the win and to the Indians who have had their own drought and they played their hearts out too. Glad to see Ross retire a champ and with a key HR in the biggest game of the WS. If they can keep this team together they could win multiple titles. Go Cubbies!!!

wouldn't be opposed to doubling up either. We obviously need to find our QB of the future. Whether Jay's here beyond this year or not he's not getting younger or healthier. Can't go into next year with just Hoyer and Barkley or some other scrub. I personally haven't had a lot of time this year to pay much attention to the who's who of QB prospects. Been too busy this year with wedding plans, and just got back from our honeymoon. The Kiezer and Kaaya matchup should be worth watching.

One thing about Kizer's situation with ND's bad record is that the record has more to do with bad D than bad offense. Keizer has played well, overall, and the offense puts up points they just can't hardly stop a nosebleed on defense. They fired their Defensive Coordinator during the season and one would think Kelly might be on the hot seat whether he'd admit it or not. It is still early to tell who we should target at QB this coming offseason.

Pass as well. Spiller has rarely lived up to his potential, hence why he's bounced around the league a bit and why he got cut. Like others here have pointed out we have young RB's that I'd rather see get game action than bringing in a guy who's failed most everywhere he's been. I really want to see Howard, he could be the future. Langford doesn't really impress me I felt he left a lot of yardage on the field last week. A few times he had big holes and seemed to stumble or trip over his own feet or something it was weird seeing him with open space going down virtually un-hit. He goes down way to easy. Let's see what Carey and Howard can do.

A "lifer" here too, though thankfully not living in packer country but have plenty of packer fans in my circle of friends. I think it's way too early to pass judgement on White and Floyd and still too early to completely judge Pace/Fox. In 20/20 hindsight sure they've made some mistakes and so has every GM/coaching staff. I think part of the emotion behind our approval/disapproval is we as long time Bear fans are starved for a winner, starved for a dominant team. We will always remember the dominant Bears teams of the 80's that should have won more than one super bowl, or the 2006 season where we should have won it all and came up short. We so badly want our team to be a winner that it's hard to be patient and let the process of rebuilding happen when we've had seemingly more bad years than good in the past few decades or so. It's hard when you watch other teams at the bottom work their way up while our team seems to stay stuck in the mud. But I personally will give Pace and Fox the chance to prove they can right the ship, we have to remember what a dumpster fire this team was when Management had no choice but to can Trestman and Emery and the damage they did to our roster would not be fixed in one offseason, and not even in two. I feel like to this point they have done a good job retooling the roster. When they took over this was a lifeless shell of a team, full of turmoil, bad blood, and distractions. That doesn't get fixed overnight. We have to be patient. Fangio's comments were taken out of context and just another example of journalists attempting to misslead to generate ratings, clicks, hits, etc. Controversy and negativity gets people riled up.

This is why he wears out his welcome every where he goes after a couple years. I bet he either gets traded this year or at the end of the year or just retires don't know what his current contract situation is and I honestly don't care to look it up. Loads of physical talent, and ability, but what always has and likely always will hold him back is his innate ability to become a malcontent, whether it's disrupting practice, throwing teammates under the bus, etc. His ability to appear lucid and down to earth in interviews when he has time to prepare what he will say is what sells the illusion that this time will be different. When he first got here the arrows seemed to be pointing up and he seemed like a guy who was turning the corner and maturing. That didn't last long.