Stinger226

Only 2% of 6 round drafted players become NFL starters.

I think most pundents see him playing inside or RT not left. A few say they think he could play there, who knows where he ends up. Like you said nasty attitude and productive.

I just posted a different opinion to create a talking point not to make his case. I absorb as much information as I can and the year will play out as it does. Ironically Ourlads has a top 35 and he is listed Booker in the mid 20s That is a composite of all their scouts. Actually that is where I thought he might be drafted anyway without any research. I would be very happy getting a trade back and get him there.

That pretty well sums it up, they didn't want to pay him with Sewell and Ragnow contracts coming. Injuries came into play. At worst he's a competent backup that can play LG or C . For a net cost of 5 mil. I think it's an insurance policy but Poles hasn't succeeded well taking risks IE, Bates and Davis.

The difference is one still does scouting and one is retired. It's just another opinion to listen to but no way to access their results until they play. Both could be successful or both average, that's why they play the game. Both are said to be first year starters.

During season 22 and 23 he missed 2 games and 3 games respectfully. Only gave up 2 sacks in those 2 years. Last year only played in 4 with a shoulder injury. Never read about having surgery or not. They cut Bates and save 4 mil, so Jackson has a net cost of 5 mil for one season. Low cost, high upside. Very curious at what position? I guess this is insurance if they can't sign Dalman or target him to play LG?

The difference is Jackson played well enough to make an all pro pick. They obviously have information on his health or they wouldn't be doing this. I wonder if he will be the LG or play center.

Actually they had him playing center for awhile in LA. Anyone know how well he did?

Scouts that work for teams mislead al the time. Ourlads is independent and they just have opinions, who they going to lie for? Booker could go top 10 , I don't know any different, I just added more information on Membou is all. Had I not heard that opinion, I may never had watched the tape.

I don't blindly follow what someone's opinion is but he has watched hours of tape more than I have. I read many opinions, look at tape myself and form an opinion. I think you keep saying you haven't watched much tape on anyone yet. So later in the process, I will find more value in your opinion. Having said all of that, NFL people make mistakes all the time. All we can do is read watch and see what happens. We have to get a star at #10 , not just a starter. As I look at more information, there's people I start to like. Watch some tape on Membou, he's a beast. Also TJ Sanders and Joshua Farmer. A couple DTs I like.

I listen to people that scout for a living much more than fans. Drafts are about value of your pick. I think Booker is a day one starter but if scouts rate someone better, I'm going to listen to the conversation. It's about the value of the #10 pick, If Membou is rated higher I think he will be a better player. If we trade back to the latter part of the round and take Booker, I would be elated.

Here's an interview of an Ourlads scout that is worth listening to. He suggests Membou may be better than Campbell and Booker has a second round grade. He likes Hampton better than Jeanty.

Actually just heard a interview with an Ourlads scout. He gives Booker a 2nd round grade and Membou has more upside than Campbell. Zabel probably will be gone. It's just projection on me. Ourlads is a group of former scouts that sell scouting information to NFL teams. Last I heard was 25 teams but there content. They're seem to be on point a lot when it comes to evaluations.

I think Dennis Allen prefers size at DE. So Stewart, Landon Jackson, Jack Sawyer JT Tumoloau are more suitable for our defense. Hopefully someone jumps on Stewart and we will get the choice of the rest at 39. 1st Booker or Membou 39) Landon Jackson 41) Zabel or Savaiinaea 72) TJ Sanders 149) Skattebo or Mullings

I think Campbell will be gone by 10. So if we have to take a player with no trade back, I would prefer Booker or Membou over Banks. Coming off an injury and the other two are more aggressive and have an attitude.

I think they can build an offense groomed to Justin and win with. They can now get him cheaply. It's a risk but Wilson wasn't the answer.

Stewart has a monster day but has 0 production in college. When I look at prospects, production is the first thing I look at, then work ethic, attitude, and demeanor. Then traits.

Fortunately, the depth at OG, and DT are very good that a couple trade back scenario's would still get us a top prospect and add needed picks. Between 72 and 149 is to big a gap with some talent still available at that point in the draft. Other than Jeanty ( if available) who would someone want to trade up to get? We might have a better chance at trading our 39 th pick as players fall out of the first round. That's probably just a third or fourth round pick at that point but still welcomed.

I think players like this ( not top rated) will be more likely drafted, 3 rd round and beyond, and could be big contributors this year.

Overall free agency is mainly over paying for players. This year, we are just going to have to over pay for a couple additions because we don't have enough assets in the draft to try fix everything there.

Yes, there's only a few true LTs in this draft, several RTs and and almost everyone else is playing inside. Membro and Johan Savaiinaea are tackles

The team met with Cam Skattebo/ RB from AZ. His tape looks good. Any ASU guys have any opinions?

I watch a lot of Greg Gabriel podcasts and the day people started talking about Trey Smith, he said they were not letting him out of building. He's a smart guy when it comes to the NFL.

If you look at Poles history, he doesn't throw around a lot of big contracts every year. 2 on the OL and one on DL would be my guess. This has to be the year to push the envelope because Caleb should be vastly improved.

I don't think he's an pro type but top 5 is a drastic improvement. I seen a podcast with an oline coach, name?He was talking about if the center is not a big guy (Dalman 305), having big strong guards helps the center play a lot. Several big guards in the draft and Kevin Zeilter is 326 , so assembling the interior will be by design. Will Campbell 320 Armond Membou 332 Tyler Booker 325 Johan Savaiinaea 339 Tate Rutledge 320