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Stewart has a monster day but has 0 production in college. When I look at prospects, production is the first thing I look at, then work ethic, attitude, and demeanor. Then traits.

Fortunately, the depth at OG, and DT are very good that a couple trade back scenario's would still get us a top prospect and add needed picks. Between 72 and 149 is to big a gap with some talent still available at that point in the draft. Other than Jeanty ( if available) who would someone want to trade up to get? We might have a better chance at trading our 39 th pick as players fall out of the first round. That's probably just a third or fourth round pick at that point but still welcomed.

I think players like this ( not top rated) will be more likely drafted, 3 rd round and beyond, and could be big contributors this year.

Overall free agency is mainly over paying for players. This year, we are just going to have to over pay for a couple additions because we don't have enough assets in the draft to try fix everything there.

Yes, there's only a few true LTs in this draft, several RTs and and almost everyone else is playing inside. Membro and Johan Savaiinaea are tackles

The team met with Cam Skattebo/ RB from AZ. His tape looks good. Any ASU guys have any opinions?

I watch a lot of Greg Gabriel podcasts and the day people started talking about Trey Smith, he said they were not letting him out of building. He's a smart guy when it comes to the NFL.

If you look at Poles history, he doesn't throw around a lot of big contracts every year. 2 on the OL and one on DL would be my guess. This has to be the year to push the envelope because Caleb should be vastly improved.

I don't think he's an pro type but top 5 is a drastic improvement. I seen a podcast with an oline coach, name?He was talking about if the center is not a big guy (Dalman 305), having big strong guards helps the center play a lot. Several big guards in the draft and Kevin Zeilter is 326 , so assembling the interior will be by design. Will Campbell 320 Armond Membou 332 Tyler Booker 325 Johan Savaiinaea 339 Tate Rutledge 320

Does everyone think Dalman is the focus on free agency?What is the backup plan? ATL is under water with their cap and already pay big contracts to 2 OLs. He should be available but is he worth 15 mil if we get in a bidding war? I think something like a 12 mil a year secures him. Seen some other options I didn't think about. Kelly is older and has had injuries the last two years. I don't think he's in play. Joel Myers was brought up on X . Young getting better every year and robs GB of his services. 4 penalties, I sack, 29 pressures "I brought up Evan Brown who has played center 2 of his last 4 years and rated well last year as a guard.( LG) Coleman Shelton had 4 penalties, 3 sacks, 26 pressures last year playing every snap. He ranked as the 19th best center. We could do worst. Lastly is Ryan Bates over his shoulder problem with stem cell therapy? Poles likes him, brought him in to play Center. Can he do it this year? Plus he is still on the roster. Hopefully Dalman is the guy and don't have to think about it.

There are better options than Mack. Poles has a tendency to add younger players if he's handing out high salaries. Several options at DL.

Others I pay attention to are Dane Brugler, Matt Miller and like the Draft Buzz website. Great Blue North Draft Report and Ourlads

Not knowing how much influence the new coaches have as far as roster construction, Poles has several options at 10. If BPA, it could be Jeanty but , if possible, a trade back would add more assets as a lot of so called experts claim about 15 Blue Chip players and then a large group ( 15-50) about the same quality. If we can get an extra top 50 pick, it would give us 4 options in the 50 and pick 72. Those all should be eventual starters in the first 2 years. Poles is tight lipped when making decisions, so I am sure there are some surprises along the way.

Totally, Poles plan at OL turned out crap. Braxton and the potential of Kiran will be judged by how they view the main 3 LTs in the draft . I'm saying the possibility of one of those 2 being our left tackle this year are likely. If they like Banks a lot, he is the most logical choice. The LT position in the draft is very limited. Being in Thailand, I spend a lot at time looking at free agency and the draft, only so much beach and partying that my body can do. A lot of people think Braxton gets one more year to prove himself before he's due a contract. That's some local press and national. The consensus that Braxton is terrible isn't everybody.

Still several options out there. Evan Brown, Becton, Kevin Zeitler, Will Fries. Brian Kelly, Dalman and Evan Brown are the choices at center.

Brad Holmes, the GM made those decisions , when asked Ben said he had nothing to do with it. I'm not trying to say Swift is great but he's not chump change either. Swift went to the pro bowl the year he played in Philly, he was only there on a one year deal. Would you rather sign Barkley or resign Swift? That's not brain surgery. Barkley wasn't available the yr before. I agree he probably won't be here after next year but he had production every place he played until he came here. So by your logic, we should be in the SB after we cut Swift. Got it

He drafted Kiran with that intention but don't think he expected the competition for LT until this year due to his injury. It all comes down to their evaluation of Campbell - Banks - Simmons. I don't think he drafts an injured player after the Kiran pick last year. Campbell will be gone so it comes down to his opinion on Banks. I get Braxton is just an average LT but with need at IOL , Jones could slide by this year with Kiran as his competition. Darrnel Wright keeps getting praise but had more penalties 8, more sacks 6 and more pressures 30 than Braxton did last year. I don't think Poles throws away his 5th round LT starter and his 3 rd pick last year that easily. If he upgrades 3 IOL spots, I think that may upgrade the play of both OTs. Good play calling and more chip support on the outside may make both OTs perform better. Our play caller left our LT on an island when we played Jared Verse with no support. Bad idea.

As much as Jeanty is going to be a stud in the NFL, the bears won't be drafting him. Johnson clearly relies on a 2 back system, if you draft a #1 it will change the dynamic of a team trying to feature a QB. Johnson came here because of Caleb. They will draft a RB to upgrade the power game, Swift will do well under Johnson as the scat back. The bad OL also affected the running game as well as the passing game. Johnson talked about impact players also on defense as well as offense. Caleb - DJ- Odunze - Kmet and a combo RBs. The first pick will be an impact player, probably D, Campbell seems to be the only top 10 OL player. If not there, I think they draft a DE or DT. Banks, Simmons, are the only true LT in the draft and so far haven't been evaluated to top OL pick values. All the other high rated OL seemed destined to RT or move inside. They may deem them that and change the # 10 pick evaluation. IOL has great depth and can be gotten with 39-41 if that's where they choose to draft them. IMO, I think the first player will be a DL pick, 39-41 OL and 72 open. I think they bring in 2 starters on the OL and 1 of 2 DL . News today at the combine is Abdul Carter has a stress factor in his foot, probably surgery. If he drops to 10, would you take him knowing he will miss the beginning of the season?

Johnson was asked about that and he said he had no input into that decision. If you goggle it, you will find the reasons he was traded was not because of performance. He was going into his last year of his contract and had missed games every year due to injuries and Brad Holmes decided to draft a RB ( 2 1st round picks) and let Swift play out his contract. He wasn't going to pay him. After they drafted Gibbs, and signed David Montgomery, Swift went to Holmes and requested a trade. 2022 / 99 carries/ 542/ 5.5/5 TDs. 48 receptions/389/8.1/3 TDs

Ben Johnson talked about redoing the OL in one year and cited that the Panthers did that last year. They Signed Robert Hunt and Damien Lewis as OGs. Austin Corbett was a FA they acquired in 2022 from Cleveland. Taylor Morton is their RT a 2017 second round pick and LT is a #1 pick from 2022. Their OTs aren't highly rated and Robert Hunt is there best player at LG but as a unit they played well together . If we add 3 new starters to the IOL we can accomplish the same thing.

First I think people under value Swift. In a Ben Johnson offense, he can make big plays but we definitely need a power back of which lots of choices in 3rd and beyond. I want the first 4 picks to be 2 DL and 2 OL , drafted at where their value is. My ideal situation would be trade back, get an extra 3rd, take Mike Green - Jack Sawyer - prince Umanmielen. Then in the second Johan Savaiinaea and Grey Zabel. At 72 - Joshua Farmer ( 10 sacks -20 TFL- 74 tackles. 4.85 speed.) he is the 120th overall ranked player so may be gotten with an extra 3rd round pick. Draft Ollis Gordon, 6-1 233 4.45 speed

Not sure but 2 Spots should at least get a 4th and 6th? Don't know where to grab the value formula. I think they get 2 vets on the OL and then draft a starter type Campbell -Cooper -Donovan Jackson. Then get a OL that can play multiple positions for the future.

Here's some info on top OL in draft.

Like you stated, make the league think you're interested for trading value. Of course he would be nice to draft but with that pick you need trenches,best OL or DL, a difference maker. Carter, Mason, or Campbell. Go for it but Jeanty could be BPA at 10. Which I would try to trade back.

Two years ago, DeMarcus Walker was coming off a 7 sack season and you see that was his high. Rotational player but never a riser. Chase Young is stuck in the 7 sack range after the surgery but Sweat has had 7 sacks or better 3 of the last 4 seasons. 33 total. He will be overpriced but has a higher upside with him. Drafting a stud DE will only be gotten in the draft. We do need to add to the room as Booker will need to prove himself with the new coaches. Not sure who else in free agency that would be a value signing at DE. None stick out. Green looks great but Allen likes bigger DEs, I think Sawyer would be available in the second round and has upside. Stewart has been mentioned because of his size but lacks production. Princely Umanmien is impressive. 90 Ts, 10.5 sacks, 14 hurries and 13.5 tfl Jordan Burch/Oregon could be a surprise in round 3 , 6.6 295 with 4.68 speed. He only had 3 sacks his senior season but was very productive his other years.