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I think with the money we are paying the 2 OTs that only a top 5 OT would have the chance of starting this yr and we're not into play for them. We discussed the next few options and they all will need a year ot to to develop. Josh Jones is the one that may drop to us that could replace them this year. I think they will be trading back that puts us out of his reach. I , like you , think they both needed to be replaced but just don't think that happens this yr. I think they draft a OT and OG later in the draft , try to develop them and keep our top couple of picks for potential starters.

I believe with them moving down in the draft , listing who you think they end up with , is going to be tough. So players later in the draft, I would say they end up with Devin Duvenary at WR. I think they like Robert Hunt and Hopkins. if they pick up Howard that changes their TE option. Also met with Duggar and A. Davis with a trade back safety option.

I seen on Twitter that the bears and Tampa are working on a trade for Howard. They say the bears are offering a 5th next yr. Normally I would dismiss as a writer just suggesting this might happen. The story is from NBC sports , not a typical storyteller.

I listen to a ton of bears podcasts and read almost every article written on them , I'm bored, and so many of these bears people place CB as one of their important needs. A lot of them are mocking a CB either as the first or second pick. My logic tells me that the bears are going all in on winning this year. As I look at needs, I have to look at who is already on the team. Tolliver, Burns, Robinson Xavier Crawford, Denmark, Fuller, Joseph, McManis, Skine, and Shelly. They have a lot of capital invested in the position already. Knowing which ones are good or not are still a question but they have many options At S they have 5 , 1 star and a backup that might be okay. Burns. Lucas is probably not a starter but a good depth player. I am going to say S is a much more critical issue than CB. Also , I think Az suggested that the SS is going to be more valuable to the team. With a stout pass rush, considering they will have to cover TEs and RBs, that position should be more valuable than the CB2 spot. I agree We need to upgrade the oline and add more speed to a bad offense whether Wr, TE or a RB. So why are all these experts keep picking a CB high? I DON'T GET IT TE is important but they have 9 on the team. So as much as I think they draft both a TE and a CB, I just don't see it until the last few rounds.

I think nobody is trading for Shaheen, they all know he's going to be cut. They'll just wait and not give up any draft capital.

They did give us a 4th for Shea McCellin. Seriously they might but it would not be a high pick. And not sure of they cap situation, MT gets 9 mil this yr.

People lie

To bad the xfl folded we might have gotten a 4th from them

I am using the PROFOOTBALLNETWORK mock for trade values, don't know how realistic but I can always get a trade with NE for 43 but they refuse the 50 trade. In this scenario we have 50-87-98-100. That would be the only trade that would give me 4 top 100. I also always get a Cincinnati trade for 50 for 65- 107- 180 65-87-98-100-107 is the best I could get. That 2 trade option gets me 5 in top 107. I tried every trade scenario with every team and that 2 trades got me the most. I would say after the first 40 players, the next 70 probably doesn't have much difference in values through those picks. For example: Jeremy Chinn has been anywhere rated 45 -54-58-73. So lots of different draft sites vary with values of players. My last draft got me at 65- Duggar/ SS 87 - Matt Peart/ OT 98- Devin Duvenary/"WR 100- Claypool/ figured at TE 107- Antonio Gibson RB/ WR That's a lot of speed.

I'm bored in Thailand and have did a thousand mock drafts. There has been many where I got Gibson/ RB Claypool/TE Duvenary/ WR That's when I trade back twice. That would be very speedy.

Williams wants to be the highest paid OT in the league. If we cut Leno most of his money is dead, I think 7 mil. We have 9 m in cap space and have to save 5 mil for rookie contracts and operating expenses for the year. The math doesn't work.

RBs usually don't go high anymore Taylor and Dobbins may be the exception. I see them early 2 round than first round picks. Taylor might be there but would the bears take him that high ? I don't think they would but would give them trade back possibilities for a team that might want them. I think if a WR like Higgins drops he could start with Miller staying at slot. I think with his speed , he would get plenty of reps. Now its questionable on his impact but at least would keep the defense honest. Later in the draft WRs would be more of a complement than a starter. I really like the idea of drafting Claypool as a TE because of his speed. The move TE is more a receiver in modern offenses anyways so changing positions wouldn't be that much of an affect

I never saw that, if he's not healthy, no use keeping him , 3 mil is probably the rookie money we have to pay.

I think the only thing that might come in to play is Pace thinks his job is on the line and wants immediate help. But good teams draft BPA , we will find out soon what they think.

I agree other than if we had the chance to draft the top 4. Most people think they would be rookie starters but odds of that are none. I think they would give the veterans a chance to prove themselves first.

The only 3 that could be there in our spot that might drop are Jones, Cleveland or Jackson that are rated high. OTs like Price Tego Wanogho, Naing and Isiah Wilson are lower rated than our draft spot. Would be considered reaching. If we trade back they come in play. I like Matt Peart and Robert Hunt 90 to 110 range that could be just as good. That gives us the option to pick a SS and WR before we need to draft the OT. Anyone I mentioned here probably aren't first year starters other than an injury to Leno or Massie.

Sop on

It's interesting that A. Davis is ranked higher than Chinn and Duggar for safeties. 50, 54, 58 respectfully. Adam if you have a subscription to the Athletic, you can get Dane Buglers draft guide free. You click it and the password is Bea$T20!

Josh Jones plays LT.

With only 2 high picks for now , we have to figure we only get 2 potential starters at 43 -50 . What helps us the most since we added players at all of our need spots. It we draft a OT, almost anyone we would get there is going to need 1 yr of growing. Jones- Cleveland and jackson are all rated higher but could drop. Is it worth setting him down for 1 yr? Ruiz is the only IOL ranked a head of us, with bringing in IFEDI and holdovers Bars- Coward. Ruiz may start but we're doubling up on assets we have at that spot. A bigtime WR would bring added speed for our offense but may not even be a starter his first year. A RB starts out 3rd on the depth chart , so many reps he going to get in his first year. We have 9 TEs in camp and this class is rated low for impact players. If we get one of top 3 , he will have limited reps. Rarely do rookie TEs make an impact. No QB, available to us would ever win a starting job in his first year. Our front 7 are set . We could use depth at edge and ILB but I doubt anyone worth taking at our spot would have an impact his first year. We have questions at CB but at least have options, is a rookie going to start day one ? Probably not. We have an allstar FS and a backup penciled in at the other starters spot. Definitely a high pick rookie could make an impact over Bush. So for me SS is a no brainer . A top WR could start with Miller staying in the slot. OG is probably the only other spot that could start day 1. A LT could be deemed important enough to draft now knowing next year we need to upgrade both OT spots. So for me: SS and WR.

The problem is they don't know about 50 until you get there. Your in the draft room and have to make a decision. Nobody is going to trade with you until your on the clock. They can't presume who will be there over knowing who is there.

Wen I do mocks, when a really good player is there, I have to ask myself if one or whoever is on the list is to good a player to pass up. Then try to trade your 50 . Is any of them players capable of being a top 15 in the league. From what I read the only 2 with that kind of potential would be Ruiz and Delpit. The rest I wouldn't hesitate to trade back. So the question is not what we would do but really is WHAT you think the bears would do.i would have to think long and hard about Jones. a potential 8 yr starter at LT after a yr of gaining strength and tutoring. He could replace Leno next year and if he gets hurt fill in this year. Everyone here wants Leno replaced. Preferably soon.

Options: trade back 43 to Cincinnati for 65- 107- 147 Grant Delpit K. J. Hamiler Cesar Ruiz Josh Jones A. J. Terrel What do you do?

Anybody here: Would you trade 43 for NE's 87- 98- 100 also a latter pick to try to balance value ? 172

I don't see them wanting anyone but maybe Cohen . I think they might want a draft pick to. Cohen was a 4th round pick, I think Howard was a first round pick. 19th actually. No way they trade even up.