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With the new CBA I read where if we designated Leno for a June cut we could save 8 mil in cap space. Also would apply to Button with I think they would get 5 mil back. I think everyone they get will be 2nd tier free agents. The wild card is what they pay at QB. As much as I want Leno gone, I think they keep him and draft a OT in the second. Let him fill the RG spot and then dump Leno next year.I think getting rid of Burton would be a better move and one high and hope of their 8 TEs contribute. With the new CBA also we should have 10vmore in cap but half of that has to to the lower half of the roster as everyone gets a 200, 000 raise.

As far as trades, I think Pace could work out something to trade but as far as Carr's 22 mil a yr doesn't fit our cap . That would mean MT would have to go and who is going to trade for him? As far as Dalton , paying 17 mil for the backup doesn't feel logical and his salary doesn't fit our cap either.

Shows everyone the over cost of signing free agents. Good for him bad for anyone needing a QB right now. So our options are: Keenum Sudfeld Matt Moore Outside shot Mariota Anyone want a jeff Driscol?

I don't see us drafting a S or CB with either of our 2nd picks. I think OL and OLB will be the first 2 but could be a speedy WR slips in there. I also see us grabbing a TE in the 4th. That is around there where you can still get a decent prospect that could contribute. 2A- OL 2B- OLB 4--TE If one of those top WRs drop to us I can see us grabbing one there. Honestly I hope we trade back with both our picks so we end up with 4 in top 100.

He would be a good choice, he may be gone by our 43rd pick but since S is not a need so I doubt they use one of our first 2 picks for a Safety. Good news with the CBA the 30% rule no longer exists so that means Leno could be let go with a 8 mil cap savings if they designate him a june 1 cut. NY may win his bet after all.

Being in Thailand,( 12 hours difference in time, I missed seeing that HaHa is coming back. I'll have to check that out. Personally I think he is not the best fit for the SS role in this defense but it will okay if he's back.

I think they move on from HaHa. He played well but I think he doesn't fit the ideal SS role on our team and that was why Jackson didn't have good numbers. . I will give you this argument. It was dump of ME to suggest that we need Ss . I read where 90% of the NFL teams only carry 2 safeties on their roster. I don't know why I always question your wisdom, your always right.

In free agency so far: Released Gabriel and Prince Signed Tre Robinson, Demetrious Harris, Trevathan and RRH. What do they do next? Probably release Floyd

He got a 21.4 mil deal for 3 years. That's more than I expected but not only a good player but a defensive leader. I read where they offered a contract to Kwit first but he turned them down. So that means they offered him 7 mil a year. I can't see him getting much more than that. Also they tendered RRH at 3.4 mil which would return a 2nd round pick if someone would sign him

To be honest I don't remember what your opinions on MT and Cutler were so I'm not sure how that bothers me. Everyone has differences of opinions, no problem with that but for example, as on this thread you say something dumb like SS is not a need that I call you out on. Then you say this thread is about (theme of most expensive free agents )with a heading of (free agent thoughts. ) I just call you out when you say dumb things. Don't take it personal , I'm not saying everything you say is dumb, just once in awhile you make odd statements. You have some spot on comments. I give you credit when you make a good call. Also you state that you don't agree with me on a bidding war on FA Ss will I clearly state we will only be going after 2 nd tier players. Just focus a little and you will able to make rational comments and we won't be having these throwing darts at each other all the time.

Now bring back KLP and we'll be set at ILB.

The thread is FREE AGENCY THOUGHTS ( the theme of the thread)??? High ticket free agents??? , dumb statement. In my posts on this thread I made the point we will be getting a 2nd tier SS. Pointed out that we won't be in on any of the top tier FAs. We already added a TE, we will not be in on a top tier TE. OL only has a few high end players that will be expensive, we wont be in on. I started all our acquisitions will be 2nd tier, the only potential expensive player will be what they decide to do at QB Our needs are QB, TE, OL , SS , OLB, , we just resigned Trevathan so that takes ILB off the list. We will be adding FAs and draft picks at every position , no one is going to wait until the draft to fill needs.

SS is not a need? We literally do not not have one on the roster. The two safeties on the roster are Jackson and Brice with a futures contract. We are not going to not sign any in Free agency and wait until the draft and hope we draft someone you might like. I think they bring back Dion Bush, plus a free agent and draft one.

When you have practical and logical assumptions, we probably agree quite a bit, it's the La La land comments you make that we have disagreements on. So far Pace has made some good choices Tre Robinson, Harris and now Trevathan.

I hope we can get one of these guys 3 yr 13 mil. would fit.

I think it would have to be or they wouldn't have did it. Probably gave him 3 yr 16 with 8 guaranteed. He's a good player and leader.

We have to get a strong safety. Lots of vets out there. I think they bring in a 2nd tier type 4-5 mil a year. Choices: Anthony Harris- justin Simmons- HaHa Willbe to expensive. McCourty and Rashan Jones to old Tru Boston- D. Randle- Vonn Bell- karl Joseph-Tony Jefferson Jeff Heath, - Clayton Geathers- Adrian Phillips- Jimmie Ward- Travon Wilson This group will probably have some more expensive contracts in it than we can not afford. I think Jeff Heath , Adrian Phillips, clayton Geathers-, and Travon Wilson are all within our price range. WHO DO YOU WANT? I prefer Vonn Bell but don't think we can afford him. So I prefer Adrian Phillips and possibly Clayton Geathers because he has spent time with Pagono before.

In the past few years we went after a few players but the money went to high , we didn't match it. A. J Bouyer comes to mind. He will aggressively go after a few but I don't see Pace getting in a bidding war with anyone. I think all of their acquisitions will be from the second tier. Trying to resign some of our own FAs may be right out of the blocks.

Free agency starts in one week, the problem will be , I don't think we will be in for at least a week until all the biggest deals are done. Pace will have one surprise move but we won't be getting into a bidding war with anyone.

Fishburn and Durkin in the athletic had some interesting ideas. They say to sign Keenum, 1 yr 5 mil Golden, 1 yr 6 mil Trade the 4th pick to ravens for Hayden Hurst (the idea that he is 3rd string in Baltimore). Was a first round pick and has big upside at 3 mil. Kevin Johnson/ CB 2 yr 7 mil ( played well at buffalo last year) Halapoulicaati Vaitai OT 3 yr 24 mil. Backup at philly that would play RG this year and take a OT spot in future. Anybody know much about Vaitai?

I think Beasley would have more sacks but would that compensate for his weakness of not being a good run defender or in the pass. He will cost anywhere from 12 to 14 million. In 6 years he had 5 sacks or less 4 times. He had 15 5 once and 8 last year. At 6-3 and 246, he is not the ideal size for a OLB in our scheme. There is a reason Atlanta is letting him leave , he was not worth the 12.6 they paid him. Sound familiar? Dupree and Barrett are going to be paid higher. Golden may be a 10 to 12 mil a year guy but he's not young turning 29 this month. He may be the one to sign but then you can get 2-3 years of production before the contract has no value. If floyd could get 8 to 10 sacks a year , you would choose him over the rest. I doubt anybody trades for a 13.2 mil year player. They would just wait to have him cut.

From all mock draft projections I have seen, at the end of the 4th there will be potential draftable TEs and Wrs So with our first 2 picks we need OLineman and pass rushers.

The mid rounds are Paces sweet spot. I prefer he has 3s and 4s than first round picks.

Thank you for being so smart that you actually figured out what QB I was talking about as I misspelled his name. Sudfeld ( thanks to you I corrected my phones autocorrect) is a developing prospect and not ready to assume any starting roll yet. You did notice I was bringing in 2 QBs with my proposal not just Sudfeld. He has more upside than Bray. Bray has to be resigned back to the roster so why not go with someone that some suggest may be able to start in the future. If MT fails at least Mariota has the pedigree to be better so it's just a matter of throwing 2 darts at the board.

I thinking they went to him with a new deal and he doesn't like it. So now he may be gone.