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Everything posted by Stinger226
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Leno had a bad year. I think we bring in a draft pick to compete with him. If not the 43 or 50 pick , probably means he is 2020 starter. Unless they think Bars can play LT. I think there will be a new starter at RG , probably a rookie or Bars. With our cap space, there is going to have to be some cheap starters. RG will be one of those.
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I did the draft game and made 2 2nd round trades to 2 extra 3rd rounders. 2a-- Josh Jones/ OT from Houston 2b-- KJ Hamlin/ WR from PSU 3a-- Shane Mieniux/ OG 3b Bryce Hopkines/ TE from Purdue Also Steve Montez QB from Colorado in the 5th. https://www.first-pick.com/NFL/DraftGame.aspx I listed some of the picks not knowing if the copy works.
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Woulda, coulda, shoulda , we need to live in the reality of Mitch. Pace will go another year trying to make it work. I hope it works but if not , what they do behind him is what counts. With limited draft capital and up against the cap , hope they figure it out. With Free agency first up ( my choices), try to get Mariota on a 2 year prove it deal ( 15 mil)? I would hope that would work. 2nd and more likely they sign Case Keenum. He's capable of much more than Chase ever did. In the draft they will draft one . The problem is it has to be with 2a or 2b to have a shot that the real thing , otherwise with a 6th round draft Steve Montez from Colorado. I think I spelled that wrong. What say you and be realistic.
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Defense is valuable in a big game. Nagy O works if you run the ball. We need a speed WR We need a quality TE We need a solid oline. To keep the defense good we need another pass rusher. Healthy Hicks matters. I think filling the CB and SS spot will be relatively cheap. Pass rusher will not be. We have a lo to do.
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It's hard to say what we get out of him but let's just consider it like a older draft pick with upside. I think tolliver is slated to be next man up but Robinson may become a valuable backup. Wake got 5 mil for 4 years when he came over and we bettered that. Say 6 mil or 3 year 5 mil. In any event it isn't big money.
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The bears signed a CB from Canada, Tre Robinson. Considered the best CB in the CFL , the bears outbid 9 other teams. 7 ints last year.
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I like the draft but I think they are drafting a QB some where in this draft unless they pick up a starter type of free agent QB. Mariota, Foles or even a Dalton.
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As he watches the playoffs he will notice KC going to the SB with his offense.
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If his medicals check out , he will go high if not probably not a good idea.
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They have a lot invested in OL so I don't think we go big contract there. A second round pick could easily start at RG. They will be bringing back Burton, Holtz, and Hoested and the draft isn't strong in TE so this could be an important offseason to get the TE. Hooper can block and catch. It's an important position for his offense. You only have one year left before you can cut Burton so its basically affecting the cap for one year. If not a TE , I would be all in on grabbing a pass rusher , JPP. Because at 31 his price wont be high. He had 8.5 sacks in 14 games. With us going to keep Floyd , he can be the 3rd OLB and give us production opposite Mack. Then in the draft get a OG and OT in the second round . The 2 most important needs for the team is fix the OL and TE spots. This does both.
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Also does Dalton and AJ McCarron come in to play now?
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Floyd gets a deserved rap for not being a pass rusher but he plays well with everything else. It's the 13 mil that gets in the way. He's not responsible for being drafted to high. Give him a 3 year 26 mil contract and bring in a situational PR and that position will workout. His ceiling is 6-8 sacks. Lots of people getting paid with that kind of production. We were still 8th ranked in the league with all the problems we had . Better offense will do wonders for our defense.
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Any coaches you hire have been fired from somewhere. With nagy calling the plays. it's a job in name only. New perspective always helps.
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We have run the same offense now for 2 years and the Oline played well in 2018 but didn't this year. 2018 we had a blocking TE on the roster (Sims) and a fullback. Without them assignments change and the Oline got worse. For sure Nagy needs to play to the team's strengths and not try to put square pegs in round holes. I think Nagy is smart and will do what we need to do to improve. We need to get a powerful RG in the second round of the draft. Switch Whitehair and Daniels back where they belong. Hopefully have Bars compete for a starter role at RT and bring a LT in to push Leno. It would not bother me one bit if both of are 2nd round picks were OL.
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I don't think Leno is going anywhere. Best case would be back up to new starter. I think they freed moneyvup to resign Jackson.
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Burdison is rated one of top 3 guards, no way he makes it to the late 4th round. Hopkins and Lewis are mid second round picks by most ratings so that would be good value.
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He's going to cost to much for the position. Burton whether here or not gets 8 mil this coming year. You really think the bears are going to pay 18 to 20 mil for 2 TEs? Nope Shaheen will be back in camp but no guarantee he sticks. Burton back hopefully healthy. Holtz and Hoested will be resigned. We have room for 1 new guy, I think a draftee.
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If a OC is graded higher than any other OL at that draft spot , go for it. I think Daniels is headed back to OC. If we draft a RG, I think Bars or Coward get a shot at playing OT. Leno and Massie aren't going anywhere but that doesn't mean they have to start. Some of our replacements are coming from people on the team, our cap situation is rigid to expect FAs and shallow draft capital to fill every position.
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I've been looking at a lot of draft information lately. The middle of the second round , shows a lot of OL, TE and CBs to have their value there. I think that one of the second round picks is traded back for an extra 3 or 4 and we could fill the OL need and TE spot with good prospects. also grab a CB or QB prospect all aligned in the mid 2 nd to mid 3rd range. If Tru comes out,they're 6 names that keep getting mentioned in the first 2 rounds at QB. I don't if any are any good but to get one we have to draft early. Using the GBND REPORT top 100 rankings. We could get: 2a--Shane Lemieux/OG-- Oregon 2b-- Hopkins/ TE--Prudue 3- Brady White-- Memphis Haven't read enough to know if any of these players are any good, just licked due to the rankings. We are definitely going to be drafting offense early.
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After a mediocre season, we need to remember, 12-4 then 8-8, we are some where in between and that still puts us in the driver's seat for a playoff contender next year. Far from 2018 but we still finished 8th on defense with all the key injuries. I think think the defense is better than we complained about all year. I think Prince and Trevathan are gone . Floyd may be back but not at 13 million. As much as the overall performance of HaHa was good, I think part of our defensive woes were having 2 free safeties, putting Jackson in the SS spot way to much. I think we would be better off with Bush at SS and not mess with Jackson. We will also bring in a new safety. I think we bring back Kwit and KPL that will be quite adequate at ILB with a healthy Smith. Hicks puts the roar back in the defense and tolliver is good enough to replace Prince with added depth at CB to compete. I think a year of Pagano, he will figure out how to best use Mack and out playmakers. So until we add some additional players, Tolliver, Bush, KLP and Kwit will fill in nicely.
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This sounds like a Pace type draft and would be all in on it. This is where he excels in the draft. I would be happy if he never had a first rounder again considering his record.
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This sounds like a Pace type draft and would be all in on it. This is where he excels in the draft. I would be happy if he never had a first rounder again considering his record.
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We will be picking about 45 , as the draft will play out, it could be OT, RG, edge, TE, S, ILB , CB or a QB. The most critical needs in my opinion are OL or TE. The draft class is weak at TE . In many mocks I've seen, not any taken in the first round and only a few picked in the second. We could have our choice of TEs but is that good value at that spot. I think Pace takes the BPA . We could get a stud RG at that spot and turn around and draft the best TE in our slot a few picks later. We have to get a QB prospect in this draft. There are 4 to 5 taken in all the drafts in the first 2 rounds, so if we want a QB with any chance of success, it may have to be in the second. As AZ pointed out, OT may be our most glaring need but all the top ones will be gone before we pick. A stud OG , then move Coward out to LT and Bars to RT may be our best option for 2020. They at least will compete for a starter job at both OTs. I think Leno is the worst on the oline but will not be cut this year due to cap hit but at get a young guy in there to grow into a more consistent performer. We are in such a tight spot with little draft capital and not enough money to fix all our weaknesses in Free agency.
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I'll go back and watch game tape on Floyd. I know he is not good at the rush but thought he contributed in other ways. As far as paying him the 13 mil , probably better options in free agency for less money.
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Adam your right on MT , I miss read the contract.