Stinger226

You make it sound like he is worthless as a pass catching RB, it is simply not the case. As you will see this year, he will garner 1200 yards and 40 catches. See me at the end of the season to eat crow.

Hamilton is a WR that fits the profile. 4th is the logical round to grab one.

It is not like he is learning a new language, its just more practice time on catching the ball better. So would you take a 3rd round pick for Howard? that would be stupid and we are not getting any first round picks. Your dreaming. Hunt had a catch rate of 87%, Howards was 72%. It is not like he caught 1 out of 3. He is not terrible at it.

it will end up being 2 mil more than the tender offer, no big deal , plus if he succeeds , would save a big payday on the next year contract going forward.

I think that the traits for this potential are for production, getting better every year( hard workers), competitiveness, lack of ego. Theilen is a good example of this type of WR. I think Merideth falls in this category with a breakout year coming.Will be the 2nd leading WR on this team.

This is a very good article on the success of WRs no matter where they are drafted. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-bears-nfl-draft-receivers-gems-20180407-story.html

The only way we have a shot at trading down is if one of the 4 QBs are available or Barkley. So we need to hope one of the 4 drop to our spot.

Do you really believe Howard will only run for 800 yards? I suspect he will be closer to leading the league than being in the top 20. The biggest thing the spread west coast will do is open up the running game in the middle of the field. Hunt had 1327 yards in this spread offense. He had 53 receptions. So if Howard has 40 as a average pass catcher, do you really think his rushing yards will only be 800 yards? No way. In the last two years he had 23 and 29 receptions. A user friendly offense, even if his reception rate is low . Hunt had a catch rate of 84%, Howards was 72%. Lets say he improves to 78%, how much of a difference will that make in his rushing yards? I think not much.

What sense does it make to give up Howard, another young player or a future 1 or 2 to move up to grab a RB? You replace one strength and lose two assets.Howard is a hard worker and will get better at catching. He may not be a bluechip pass catcher but he absolutely fits the power middle running game that the spread offense will put in place.

A player is not going to pay attention to rumors the internet creates. If he was going to be traded, there would be a deal done. Not speculation.

I do not think we have enough draft capital to move up in this draft. A good player will fall to us, so we will take what the draft gets us. Since their is less blue chip players this year and the QB situation, we have a better chance of moving down. Both of those situations would be acceptable.

Our two biggest needs are OG and OLB. We need depth at ILB, CB, WR and OT. I think we address the first two needs with our first two picks. If a BPA comes in to play we may be drafting Firtzpatrick may come into play which would be fine also as long as we address the other two positions. Another player I think may be in play as BPA is R. Smith/ILB who could also play outside. He is a top 10 talent that will still be on the board. I think they could take him more so that a Davenport that is a developmental player.

I still think we could take a RB late in the draft but he is a good backup RB that can catch the ball.

your posts are always well thought out, you make a lot of sense.

He would be an upgrade, but we probably need to have more information. Why would Raiders let him go? Lots of questions to ask. Anyone know, is it his contact.

I am not saying he will not make a contribution in his first year. My point is the high expectations will not be realized his first or even second year. He is very young and has a good coach to teach him. On the other hand , if we get the chance to draft Nelson, he would have instant impact at a position we also need an upgrade. If Nelson is there, I am all in on Edmunds as our pick.

I think Edmunds is so very young that he will take a few years to develop. I would like someone that has an impact from day one. I think Chubb, Nelson, and maybe Fitzpatrick could be those that do. If none of them are there, Edmunds or Davenport, possibly Landry should be our choice. At least they have all have upside of being a quality edge rusher, but not guaranteed . I hope they address the Oline in one or two, of course we shouldn't reach for that, still take the BPA if it falls that way.

Round 1 Pick 15 (ARI): Edmunds, Tremaine, OLB, Virginia Tech (A) Round 2 Pick 7: Washington, James, WR, Oklahoma State (B-) Round 2 Pick 15 (ARI): Miller, Kolton, OT, UCLA (B) Round 3 Pick 15 (ARI): Smith, Braden, OG, Auburn (A) Round 4 Pick 5: Thomas, Chad, DE, Miami (FL) (A+) Round 4 Pick 15: Toliver II, Kevin, CB, LSU (A+) Round 5 Pick 8: DeLuca, Nick, ILB, North Dakota State (C) Round 6 Pick 7: J Hall, P, DT, Sam Houston State (A+) Round 7 Pick 6: Edmonds, Chase, RB, Fordham (A) Here is a draft where I made one trade with ARZ for the 15th, 2nd and 3rd round pick. I addressed the OLB, ILB and 5t with Thomas. Also a backup NT in J P Hall Also got a OG and OT to help with our line depth. Grabbed Washington is the second as BPA.

Ward would be a good choice only if a few others are gone. Nelson-Edmunds- Fritzpatrick- Landry then I would pick Ward. CB is not a weakness for us and think we will fill other needs first. Our DBs were ranked 10th last year in the league and will be better this year with the growth the young players will have. Fritzpatrick will fit out defense better than Ward with flexibility to place every spot in the D backfield, so I think he has more value than Ward.

I'd be happy with Edmunds, but he isn't a instant star , it will take a few years to develop. Nelson day 1 makes the oline special. Get the Oline up to speed then worry about defense.

It wouldn't bother me one bit if we took OL in the first 2 rounds and grabbed all edge rusher prospects with the rest of our picks.

Both Edmunds and Davenport are not first year studs, they will both take some development. Fangio will do that. If Nelson is there, he will be the pick. 1. qb 2. Chubb 3. Qb 4. Barkley 5. I have read many places that Denver is still in on a Qb. 6. This pick will be Nelson or Fitzpatrick possible trade partner for Buff 7. Will be Fritz or Ward. They have lots of issues in their defensive backfield. TB added Ryan Jensen and will move a good Ali Marpet to OG. They have the 17th ranked OL last year, so they may look to upgrade a poor defense. 8. Nelson could be there. If not Edumunds or Davenport should be our pick. Also I read where R. Smith is a scheme fit for a 3-4. Light(237 ) at combine, he could be a BPA at that part of draft.

Hall is listed as a Safety so I think he is the first backup to both starters. He was hurt part of the year, so we dont really know what we have in him.

I know it varies depending on who you read but I read their is no flaws in his game. He has all the tools. Have never read he has slow feet. One of the reasons they let Sitton go is because of his lack of quickness.

I think they are willing to roll with Kush as the left guard if they cant draft a Nelson or Hernandez. The one thing we have to keep in mind is we the king of the OL coaches. We dont know what he thinks or how well he improves the players we have. He stated he liked the OTs which may be lip service or he could mean it.