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I am not sure you can consider Meredith as boom or bust, I would say he is a developing player ready to take a step forward. Dont forget Randle , he had some moments and may be healthier than Cruz.

you have a good sense of humor, Jason is vastly opinionated and sometimes I agree with him and sometimes I dont. None of our opinions really matter, it will play out to be a good draft or maybe not. Pace's other two drafts were less risky, but for me its about identifying talent and I think he can. I think the key to this draft is we dont figure in the scenario is the fact the Regime think we are closer to winning than the record indicated last year. If we were 8-8 and he took this risks, we would say he is going for the brass ring, but being in the third year of a rebuild, it looks bad to take this many risks. Being am optimistic Bear fan, I look at this and say if they turn out to be what he thought he drafted, then I am happy. If they dont then I can bad mouth him for his choices but standing here today looking at this, I choose the glass half full.

the highlight films look good on these players. In the super bowl this year, 39% of teams roster were UDFAs, so it nice when you hit on these players.

first of all we are loaded with big targets, inconsequentially of being a WR or TE, it is all part of the passing game. You should be more clearer when stating big body and then say #1 WR, totally different statements. The post is about a UDFA WR, so saying you were referring to a #1 WR is dumb. By the way White has always been considered a #1, but being injured has derailed his career up to the this point.

I hated the draft at first but the more I looked into it the more I understand the moves Pace made. Tribusky took 50 less snaps than Carson Wentz did in his career but did not start as many games and I do not remember Philly getting beat up for that or the fact he is from a D II school. I look at Shaheen as a Jason Witten type, reliable target and red zone target. He is physically compares to Gronk, but saying he would be that player is stupid. I think Cohen gives us something we dont have a home run player in a Tryeek Hill type . Electric and will get 8 to 10 touches, not only as a RB but as a slot WR. I can see where people view this to risky of a draft but we wont know how it all plays out for 2 years.

I agree

I also think Joseph has a chance to stick with probably the practice squad at first, our backup OTs arent anything to get excited about.

The best drafters in the NFL has just as many misses as hits, the difference is they get enough to build a winner. Remember the smartest guy in the league signed SMC last year, how did that turn out.

I think Pace gets Cudos for last year is because we can look back and feel good about Floyd, Whitehair, Kwiat and Howard. This year has not happened yet, so it is easy to praise or condemn. One year from now, we will see how it looks, and with Tribusky as the main guy, it may be two years.

how many big WRs do you want? we have White, 6'3" 214 and Meredith 6'3" 207 we also have two big body TEs that will be a big part of the passing game Shaneen 6'6 1/2 278 Sims 6'4" 261 We also have Daniel Brown who is a combo WR/TE 6'5" 243. So how many big body WRs do you need? we are loaded with them He slipped in the draft because of his speed 4.59, it happens all the time.

So you didnt like Peanut Tillman when we drafted him because he wasnt from a FBS school? the point is about identifying talent not where they came from.

I was just reading where Skuta can play both ILB and OLB, which could free up one spot for CB or S. ILB= Kwiat-Freeman-Trevathan-Timu-Jones-Anderson OLB= Floyd-Houston-McPhee-Young-Acho So we lose Houston, Acho, Jones,Anderson and just keep Skuta to fill in the 4th spot in both positions. Keep Timu until Trevathan is healthy.

I agree these are boom or bust players, but Shaheen was drafted about his value spot in many different draft sites. We can find one that has him as the 75th rated player or one that shows him as the 45th rated player. The point is, Pace is not the only one that thinks he will be a high end player. Two years we can have this conversation and you can be bragging about being right, or enjoying the success of these high risk players. it simply can not be judged at this time. As a Bears fan, I hope he is spot on with all these risky players. I thought the pick sucked until i investigated it further, now I think he could turn out to be a Jason Witten type. Reliable target and big in the red zone.

I think they may have brought him with the thought of losing Houston. when healthy Houston is a better player, but he gets hurt every year. Skuta has been relatively healthy and had 5 sacks and 3 FFs in 10 games under Fangio. A good depth player, will be cheaper than Houston. Houston supposedly being the starter has only started 10 games in 3 years. I think he will be gone due to reliability more than anything.

It doesnt matter how it looks now, it is about those turning out to be good players. Would you rather have a draft that looks good on paper or actually turns into talented players? Two years we will know that answer, as I said before , I would have did it differently but it aint my job on the line. He will live or die with this draft.

Your right about all of this. I think the Bears have taken so much flack is because no one knew what they were doing and it was such a surprise. All the so called experts were so wrong and it didnt make them look good, so they bad mouth it. They paid less that most situations of moving up that high to get a QB. No one will know for three years if this was a good move. I think with bringing in Glennon he was hedging his choice if he lost out on Tribusky, plus i idea situation would be to let him set for 2 years before letting him take over. I think this was a sound decision and will prove out. I totally was not on board with this in the beginning but have grown more accepting of the whole draft. I think the rest of the draft is a question mark, but I think Pace can judge talent it will prove out in a couple of years. Shaheen turns into a stud TE, good for Tribusky when ready. Jackson should start this year. Cohen should have a exciting role going forward. Morgan will replace Sitton when it starts to slide. When we look back we will laud this draft, just cant do that right now.

If we dont improve to a winning record with the roster we all ready have then what's the point of being in a rebuild. It would mean our roster is still bad and we already need to be stockpiled with potential core players, for this rebuild to be on schedule. Core players Tribusky (?) Howard Long Whitehair Shaheen (?) Merideth White Hicks Goldman Bullard Floyd Kwitkoski Cooper Morgan (?) Cohen(?) Jackson (?) This should be a our core players going forward but we really dont know yet, so that means we need to start winning.

I know that, I am refering to getting a QB he wanted. We would have taken either Thomas or Garrett, if Trubisky went #1. I agree with you that I would have preferred the defensive draft we thought we were getting but I understand that Pace IDed the franchise QB he wanted and understand all the moves following after that. What we dont know is, what they think they have going forward with the FA additions, and players about ready to take a step forward. They must think they have answers in Bullard, D. Hall, Bush, Cooper and Demps. I think all of this would have been perceived differently had we not been ladened with injuries and would have finished close to 8-8, then we would have understood they are farther along, but to much unknown now.

Jenkins is an upgrade over Sutton in the middle. I think they probably just keep Compton as he has played both positions. I think Robenson-Harris is a OLB at this moment in. With the number of RBs,WRs and TEs on the roster, we may not be keeping a FB

I didnt mean what should move up to #1 but Jason was saying we should have not signed Glennon if we wanted Tribusky but I am saying there is the chance he would not have been there.

If Tribusky was his guy and Cleveland decided to take him at #1, what would be your backup plan? It is his way of upgrading the QB position without knowing the future. Ideally you play Glennon two years and he plays well, then its Mitches turn to shine and you trade Glennon. He attacked the QB position with the intent of winning now and getting a future franchise QB. How is that a bad scenario?

Do not be surprised if you see both Howard and Cohen on the field at the same time, maybe split out as the slot WR. There is multiple ways we can use him, he will not be just a change of place guy.

Bullard is still the guy to look at for improvement but now the pressure is off , a solid player. Hicks-Goldman-Howard with Bullard-Jenkins-Unrien-Coward in the wings. McPee-Tevathan-Freeman-Floyd with Kwiat-Young-Houston(surprised he hasnt been released yet) and another name to look at is Roberson-Harris. With all the complaining about our draft, we look better on paper this year.