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In two years there would be 11 starters out of that group.

I have seen where Carolina may want to move ahead of the Jags to get Fournette, which may be good for us. They have two second rounders and two 6th rounders. So would you trade down 6 spots and get 8, they would have to throw in #40 pick-#98 and #147 to work out on the trade value chart. players that should be there at 8 will be O.J. Howard, Lattimore, Hooker,Ruben Foster players that are valued around # 40 are Cris Wromley/5T-Budda Baker/SS-TreD White/CB and Mahomes players that are valued around #98 are Rasul Douglas/CB-Demarcus Walker/5T-Brad Kaaya/QB and Taywan Taylor/WR players that are valued around #147 are Michael Roberts/TE-Peterman/QB-Corn Elder/CB-Josh Reynolds/WR and Ryan Glasglow/5T so would you make that trade?

I forgot where but have seen Allen compared to Fletcher Cox Adams compared to Darren Woodson Thomas to Justin Smith Hooker to Reggie Nelson Howard to Julius Thomas Lattimore to Vontae Davis It was on the NFL.Com draft tracker post That should cover who we may be drafting, if they turn out to be those players I would say it would be between Adams and Thomas.

I would say add Allen to that list and will definitely be from that group.

If you just draft the BPA and not worry about what side of the ball, then that will make us better. The top players are Ds so the first pick should be D. Thomas or Allen In the second if one of the top 3 OTs drop we must consider it, if not Baker should be that, or Oli M. Say Robinson/OT drops In the third grab Justin Evans or Markus Williams In the fourth we have two so look for a QB prospect and a CB Peterman and Howard Wilson In the fifth you take a TE prospect Kittle or Sprinkle In the 7th take a edge rusher Jimmie Gilbert/Colo

Personally I would take Thomas over Allen but my point is , he is still a top 5 rated player in the draft. If the shoulder issues had been more damaging then I would agree with you on him dropping in his rating, but most view that as not a problem going forward. I think Thomas has more upside as far as being a pass rusher. I think Allen can be a 10 sack guy a year where Thomas has the potential to be a 15 sack guy a year. Allen can be a dominate 5T of which we have not added during the off season. We have Floyd and McPhee(when healthy) that play the OLB spot . So although Thomas can play the 5T spot, I think he will be used all over the field by Fangio much like Justin Smith was used in SF. Thomas may go at #2 so that would leave us with the choice of Allen or Adams. http://www.ourlads.com/top-32-college-seni...ft/2017/3063425

Hey there, if you have time listen to this podcast that discusses who would be a better pick between Thomas and Allen. otim_newsfeed&spot_im_combearswire.usatoday.com/2017/03/28/solomon-thomas-or-jonathan-allen-who-is-better-for-the-bears/?spotim_referrer=newsfeed&utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spment_id=sp_mR8DcUXj_401058_c_u74qkR The link didnt load , it is on Bearswire where you can find it.

I think that means we mainly draft D players but we still need a upgrade at the OTs spots to help that philosophy. Also a TE like Howard would add to the blocking and be a major asset in the passing game.

There are many so called draft experts but the ones I pay attention to are the former scouts. I have not seen any of them drop him out of the top 5.

Allen, Adams and Thomas are all consistent top 5 players so all of them are in play as BPA. Even though we need to upgrade the QB position, there is a 90% chance we do not grab a QB with the third pick. There are not even graded as top 15 players in the draft let alone 3rd. Foster is a stud, but no way in hell we take him at 3.

I think their are 4 OTs this year that wont be all pros but can be long time starters. Robinson or Bolles could be available in the second and would at least could start day one at the RT spot.They already tried to upgrade that spot with going after Wagner.

Since we do not know Paces evaluation of the current roster, where do we go with the pick considering the talent on the team at this time. At QB- Glennon starts and could be the long range answer but no one has the answer to that question right now. I think him and Sanchez being added guarantees we dont go there in the first. At WR- Will Ashton gone now, it leaves us banking on White as being the player we drafted but still a big question mark. With adding Wright and Wheaton, I see us not going with a WR in the first. At TE- we added a blocking TE with catching upside, Miller will get less playing time and should help him stay healthier. I think they like Brown and Baunnecker enough to not pick Howard at this pick. (spoiler alert) At OT- we have a need to upgrade and all Compton is just a backup. No one is rated high enough in this draft to take at this spot, but if we would move down, could be possible. DL- we definitely have a need and only added a NT player in FAgency. Bullard was a high pick last year that will probably take a step in the second year but still is a strong possibility we grab Allen at this spot. Adding a all pro type 10 sack a year guy to your front seven seems like a good idea. Edge rusher- We need Floyd to improve and McPhee to stay healthy. If that happens with Houston and Young still here we are in good shape here but do not underestimate us grabbing Thomas if available that can help the DL plus be an edge rusher. Would be a great pick for the front seven. CB- Grabbing Cooper could be a sneaking good signing but Prince is only on a one year deal. We could very well use a stud CB even with the large group of DBs we have none are a true #1. STRONG POSSIBLITY S- With Demps we have a temporary starter but do not view him long term. Amos played Ok but is not a star. Bush has yet to show anything but with Hall and Fuller being moved to S, I can see use not viewing this as as great a need. Adams will be there and not only being better than anyone on our roster, a great leader , we could very well be calling his name at #3. Even if Hall or Fuller pans out at FS , Amos is who Adams would be replacing. Summary: Our greatest needs , in my opinion, are LT-CB-DL-SS. Who at #3 would have the greatest impact on our team going forward. Allen compares to Sheldon Richardson by several draft sites. Adams compares to Eric Weddle by a few sites. There are no all pro type LTs in this draft, so definitely see us not taking one that early. Thomas is more of a Justin Smith that would have a great impact on our defense. Lattimore has been compared to Vontae Davis by one expert. Since the draft is deep in CBs and Ss, I can see us deciding between Allen and Thomas. I would say Thomas, but if he is gone it will be Allen. One that makes a lot of sense would be Adams, but we could get a 10 starter in the second round in this draft. Spoiler Alert----Since we are going to add a playmaker at #3, one of the better impact players in this draft is O J Howard. With our WRs having some doubts grabbing a all pro type TE that can block(helps our running game) and catch 65 balls for almost a 1000 yards with 10 TDs , do not over look this as a possibility.

getting a stud in the third even though he may not play this year is golden. He may go before that. I do not see us moving up in any scenario, we just have to many needs and not enough picks.

I agree that at BPA your scenario would work just fine.

Thats is the best score and draft I seen any of us have done on here. the best score i have had was 14568.

I seen a article on PFF that compares who the player turns into as a comparision of existing NFL players. If they turn out to be similar players, who would you take. I am going to only list the players most being considered to draft at #3. J. Allen-----Sheldon Richardson J. Adams-----Eric Weddle S. Thomas-----Michel Bennett M. Lattimore---Desmond Trufant M. Hooker-----Reggie Nelson Other than the potenial to take a QB, who of these players would have the biggest affect on our team if they turn into these players. I would have to say, Weddle or Richardson would be the best choices.

This is really happening.

He clearly is building through the draft and I have no problem with that, the only problem is it takes longer. His first year he still had everybody in place from the last regime in the draft room. Last year it was his guys and they had a very good draft. Whitehair, Howard, Floyd, Kwiatkoski, have all produced. Still developing from that draft are Bush, Hall, Jones-Quartey, Bullard, and Bravemen-Buannecker. That draft could end up being the best draft for the last 20 years. From his first year, he has White, Grasu, Goldman, Amos and Langford still could all be good players. IF that class can stay healthy , we will end up viewing that year a success also. This year will be critical in our development with the chance to get 3 starters picking early. We will draft a QB prospect, I personally do not think it will be early but it depends on how they view this class. If he goes BPA, that probably will not happen until the 3rd or 4th round. I would say if one of the top 4 drop to the second round, we could grab one there. I think we get a stud D player with our first pick, and that pick needs to start and contribute day one. We have a chance to grab 5 players in the first 4 rounds that could contribute from day one, and am excited to see the results.

I think the Jets grab a QB, the draft will tell the story.

We all complain but the truth is our roster sucked other than a few players. The players that show be starring right not should come from 3,4, 5 years ago, but we dont have any.

I totally think Jets grab a QB, they didnt add anybody WAF. There will grab a QB., Cleveland will need to get in front of them, Tenn wont trade down, they already have 2 in the first round. Anybody thinking Fournett valuable, will need to get in front of Jags, they are liking Fournette.

Hell I would be happy to have any of them. Do not overlook us taking J. Dobbs, they coached him in the senior bowl

I dont think he lasts that long, but it would have to be one of our 4ths before we consider that.

O.J. Howard will be an impact player, on a team void of a #1 until White proves himself or not, he will be a star. All making it probably he could be considered. If someone told you he would be the next Gronk, who you think that would be a good pick?

The more I gain information on this draft the more I see there being a run on QBs early. With that said, if SF does not take a QB at 2, I totally see Cleveland moving up to 3 to grab Trubisky So here is the scenario: Cleveland gives us the 12th pick, #33-#67 and a fifth rounder-175 for our third spot. At 12 these players should be in play Ryan Ramczyk/OT O.J. Howard/TE Jabrill Peppers/SS Cam Robinson/OT Deshon Kizer/QB Ruben Foster/ILB Marlon Humphrey/CB or possibly one of the top 10 players drop. Of which at this time could be Allen/DE So who do we take at that spot? I would say it would be between Howard-Kizer Ramczyk( or Allen if he drops) Howard is an impact player Ramczyk would be our LT for 10 years Kizer is the QB prospect