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I think bush ends up becoming the starter at SS, but the problem is it may not be this year..

I have heard rumors that McCoy(long time aide to Fox) could come here as the Assistant head coach. Do the play calling and still retain Loggians as OC with a lesser role. Why would McCoy do that? At Foxes age, he may turn the reigns to the team over to McCoy when his contract is up, and maybe Pace would agree with that depending on the success of the team until then. McCoy is viewed as a good offensive mind but has had the same problems that we have had here with many injuries and a poor defense. with Fangio here, the defense will become good if not great so it may we a great scenario for everybody involved.

your right, I didnt notice. I guess as long as you figured out what I meant, it doesnt really matter

We have two new CBs and the best FS in the game add a LT that can start from day one a legit TE a sleeper QB prospect Short will make our front 7 one of the top 7 in the league.

His stats dont set you on fire, but I have heard 3 NFL scouts say he has many traits to be a NFL starter. Nobody saying he is a franchise type but may be a good valve in the 4th or 5th.

I think he is a very good player, if we trade back and get some extra picks he would be a good valve

Lorenzo Jerome, S, Saint Francis (PA) he had 12 int and 24 PBUs over the last 3 years.

Cyprien? we need play makers, he has had two interceptions in 4 years. We can do better than that. Gilmore is quite the stud, 30 PDs and 8 int in the last two years. Allen would be great but didnt draft a QB, that will not happen this year.

From everything Im reading is this class is below average and have yet to here anybody call the top 3 a franchise quarterback. just because you draft a 2nd round rated QB higher doesnt make him a first round franchise QB. You are right most franchise QBs are drafted high, but they come out with fanfare, Manning, Luck, Ben Roethlisberger. QBs starting not in the first round. Dalton, 2nd round Wilson 3rd round Brady 6 th round Brees 2nd round Cousins 4 th round Tyrod Taylor 6 th round I am not going to list all the idiots around that have started some games because of injuries. More starters are found in the first round but also more misses. You can find them in other spots.

For me it is less risk than grabbing a guy high in the draft, he has been in the NFL learning under Brady and Bellick, seems like our best option. If he is good, it will show quicker, any of the draftees will take a couple of years even if you have a gem. Wentz and Zak didnt have franchise type years, just good for a rookie. Either would not have did as well if they were on our team for the whole year. I just looked at Zaks stats, 4 interceptions and 6 rushing TDs, I am quite impressed.

I dont serious think they draft a QB at 3. That is the best way to lose your job, make a mistake at the top of the draft. Draft the best player available and then look at whats left, reaching for a top QB that high is dumb. I have heard several people mention C.J. Beathard as a possible middle round prospect that could hit. His college career hasnt shined because of poor peers around him. Anybody know more about him?

Our options: not much in FAgency trade for one, Jimmy G. or Glennon? keep Cutler another year? ( that boat has sailed) draft one high? ( none rated for the third overall pick) draft one later and try to develop? probably our only option. Hoyer will be our bridge , but we have to have a prospect to develop Does anyone think Connor Shaw has a future?

we like mocks that follow our line of thinking, truth is, 95% of mocks are wrong I do not think I seen one mock last year that had us taking Floyd.

Actually Miller is good at what he does evaluating players , hes just throwing a bone out there. First of all the guy has said he is not coming out, secondly, he has all the measurable s but needs more experience.

With Cleveland and SF in front with both QB needs plus, Houston,Denver,Buffalo, Jets,all could try to trade up to get one, we are sitting pretty to get Garrett or Allen my preferred choice.

We get what we deserve, 1 playoff in 10 years

He woll get what the market bears, dont think he will big money since he hasn't been playing.

Peppers is supposed to be a stud but production didnt show that, more of a SS. I think FS would be a better game changer position

Garret, and Allen are the two best players in the draft, if either come to 3 its a no brainier. Here is GBNs big board I would probably take Humphrey next on the list. Now if they think one of those 3 QBs are worthy, just take him but by all reports there more late round valve or early second. Otherwise, I would prefer to trade back but not out of the top 10, where I would grab Jamal Adams or Cam Robinson. Also, I would consider talking for Jimmy G/QB but not really with the first round pick unless we trade back a bit. *Myles Garrett DE 6-5, 265 Texas A&M Jonathan Allen DE 6-3, 290 Alabama *Jabrill Peppers SS 6-0, 210 Michigan *Len Fournette RB 6-1, 230 LSU *Mitch Trubisky QB 6-3, 225 North Carolina *Marlon Humphrey CB 6-1, 200 Alabama *Malik McDowell DT 6-5, 285 Michigan State *Teez Tabor CB 6-0, 200 Florida *Deshaun Watson QB 6-2, 210 Clemson *Jamal Adams FS 6-0, 210 LSU *Dalvin Cook RB 5-11, 205 Florida State Reuben Foster LB 6-0, 240 Alabama *Mike Williams WR 6-2, 205 Clemson *Zach Cunningham LB 6-3, 230 Vanderbilt *Cam Robinson OT 6-6, 320 Alabama *Christian McCaffrey RB 6-0, 205 Stanford *John Ross WR 5-11, 190 Washington Tim Williams OLB 6-3, 255 Alabama (O) *DeShone Kizer QB 6-4, 230 Notre Dame *Derek Barnett DE 6-3, 265 Tennessee (X) OJ Howard TE 6-6, 250 Alabama *Sidney Jones CB 6-0, 180 Washington *JuJu Smith-Schuster WR 6-2, 215 Southern California *Carl Lawson DE 6-2, 255 Auburn (X) Desmond King CB 5-10, 200 Iowa Dan Feeney OG 6-4, 310 Indiana *Solomon Thomas DE 6-2, 275 Stanford *Bucky Hodges TE 6-6, 245 Virginia Tech *Lowell Lotulelei DT 6-2, 310 Utah *Malik Hooker FS 6-2, 205 Ohio State *Charles Harris DE 6-3, 255 Missouri *Adoree Jackson CB 5-11, 185 Southern California *Vita Vea DT 6-4, 330 Washington Dorian Johnson OG 6-5, 300 Pittsburgh *Brad Kaaya QB 6-4, 210 Miami *Marshon Lattimore CB 6-0, 195 Ohio State Dawaune Smoot DE 6-3, 255 Illinois *Raekwon McMillam LB 6-2, 240 Ohio State *Budda Baker FS 5-10, 195 Washington *Ryan Ramcyzk OT 6-5, 310 Wisconsin (X) Marcus Maye SS 6-0, 210 Florida (X) Evan Engram TE 6-3, 230 Mississippi Eddie Jackson SS 6-0, 195 Alabama *Caleb Brantley DT 6-2, 300 Florida *Rod Johnson OT 6-6, 310 Florida State Justin Evans FS 6-0, 205 Texas A&M Charles Walker DT 6-3, 305 Oklahoma (X/O) Jake Butt TE 6-5, 250 Michigan (X) *Isaiah Ford WR 6-2, 190 Virginia Tech *Cody O’Connell G/T 6-4, 355 Washington State *Samaje Perine RB 5-10, 230 Oklahoma (X) Cordrea Tankersly CB 6-0, 195 Clemson *Mason Rudolph QB 6-4, 235 Oklahoma State Carlos Watkins DT 6-2, 300 Clemson Corey Davis WR 6-2, 215 Western Michigan Ethan Pocic C 6-5, 310 LSU Bryan Cox DE 6-3, 260 Florida Jeremy Sprinkle TE 6-5, 255 Arkansas *Malachi Dupree WR 6-2, 190 LSU Demarcus Walker DE 6-2, 275 Florida State Seth Russell QB 6-3, 220 Baylor (X) Tre’Davious White CB 5-11, 195 LSU DeDe Westbrook WR 5-11, 170 Oklahoma Pat Elflein C/G 6-2, 300 Ohio State Devonte Fields OLB 6-3, 245 Louisville (O) *Travis Rudolph WR 6-2, 190 Florida State Jourdan Lewis CB 5-10, 180 Michigan Conor McDermott OT 6-7, 310 UCLA *Dominick Sanders FS 6-0, 190 Georgia *Wayne Gallman RB 6-0, 205 Clemson (X) Chris Wormly DT 6-3, 305 Michigan Chad Wheeler OT 6-5, 310 Southern California *Anthony Walker LB 6-1, 235 Northwestern Chad Kelly QB 6-2, 225 Mississippi Cameron Sutton CB 5-11, 190 Tennessee (X) *Darren Carrington WR 6-2, 195 Oregon (O) Kendell Beckwith LB 6-2, 255 LSU (X) Deatrich Wise DE 6-3, 290 Arkansas Mitch Leidner QB 6-3, 230 Minnesota Ike Rochell DE 6-3, 290 Notre Dame Johnny Caspers OG 6-3, 300 Stanford Daeshon Hall DE 6-5, 260 Texas A&M Greg Pyke OG 6-4, 315 Georgia *Elijah Qualls DT 6-1, 320 Washington Travin Dural WR 6-2, 195 LSU Corey Clement RB 5-11, 220 Wisconsin Jarron Jones DT 6-5, 315 Notre Dame Davis Webb QB 6-3, 230 California Montravious Adams DT 6-2, 310 Auburn Damontae Kazee CB 5-10, 195 San Diego State Adam Bisnowaty OT 6-5, 300 Pittsburgh Johnathan Ford SS 5-11, 205 Auburn Takkarist McKinley DE 6-2, 260 UCLA Hardy Nickerson LB 6-0, 235 Illinois Kareem Hunt RB 5-11, 225 Toledo Chidobe Awuzie CB 5-11, 205 Colorado Zay Jones WR 6-0, 200 East Carolina Ryan Anderson LB 6-2, 255 Alabama Julien Davenport OT 6-6, 315 Bucknell Jalen Reeves-Maybin LB 6-0, 230 Tennessee (X) *Marcus Williams FS 6-0, 195 Utah Josh Carraway DE 6-3, 250 TCU

My take on direction of the Bears. I accept Fox for stability but do not like all that he does. Motivates players but game day weaknesses. i agree McCoy would be a step up but still remains a question as to his availability to be a OC. I agree we need to add some better FAs and we have money. First we should resign Jeffery, no reason to let a talented player leave when we have the money to practically do what ever we want. I think we will spend money on one expensive FA. I would prefer someone in the backside of the defense our biggest weakness. We need a playmaker so Berry, T. Johnson some others to consider are A.J bouye/CB/Houston- Tony Jefferson/S/Ari-Gilmore/CB/Buf. All upgrades to our team. I think then we add middle valve players like last year as Hicks, Freeman,Travthen. Some names to consider to upgrade: As I mentioned in the back of the defense----Gilmore,Jefferson,Bouye are players in this category Campbell/DE his age will make him less expensive Ingram( as you have mentioned) K.Short/DT ( he may command to much money, but he can play inside or outside and is a play maker) D. Poe/DT ( he would be a ungrade but may be to expensive) T. Pryor/WR ( if we dont resign Ashton) I think Massie has improved his game enough to not make RT a big as a need. We need to upgrade the LT position and the draft is weak. Riley Rieff and Matt Kahil are available but not exactly the top of the food chain but could be a upgrade. I think at TE Brown, Baunecker, and will Miller back could be enough but may still need to draft a TE prospect, a strong draft for that position. The QB spot the sensitive spot. Cutler still may be our best option at QB but probably we just need to move on and start fresh. FAgency options at QB are slim: Maybe grab Glennon/TB or trade for Jimmy Garoppolo ( I think our best option) The draft can bring us one of three top prospects for the third pick, but I think for that spot they would be over drafted, but it they deem one to be a franchise QB, they should take him. Otherwise find a QB they like that would go in the 3rd or 4th round and try to develop him while Hoyer, Barkley and Shaw hold down the fort or emerge as a starring caliber option going forward. Lets say we get Trumain Johnson, Tony Jefferson, and K. Short in FAgency then draft: I would say draft Allen or Garret if there otherwise try to trade back ( in this senario) with Cleveland that grabs Garret and then trades up for QB. we get 10- 2nd round and 3rd round picks this year. 1-10 Cam Robinson/LT 2-1 Malik Hooker/FS 2-2 Bucky Hodges/TE 3-1 Brad Kayaa/QB 3-2 Kevin King/CB 4-1 Isiah Rocnell/DE 4-2 Derek Rivers/OLB I leave it there for now.

nice picture of the kids

Some good points but no way were buying Campbell, Berry and Johnson. I see one from those names. Berry and Johnson are getting lots of money that we have but will not buy both. If we get one were doing good. O.J. Howard will not make it out of the first round. If we are desperate for a QB, I guess we could use the first round to pick him but I think the top 3 are lower first round quality that will be over drafted. I think take the BPA at one and grab a prospect in the next few rounds if they find one they like. We have to get at least one high draft pick with Safety and hopefully grab Johnson in FAgency.

I think the biggest thing to be concerned with is his only one year of production. No QB with only one year of success has ever been a difference maker at the next level. I got that information listening to Greg Gabriel on the SCORE. He is a former scout and does analyze with the SCORE, and pro football weekly.

Picking a QB at 3 when he rates out as a late first or second is what gets GMs fired. You will find a prospect worth the valve where you pick them. Last year it was Goff, Wentz, and lynch. They all may prove out to be good, but anybody see a franchise QB among them, probably not.