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I think Long is the true leader of the OLine and with a vet like Massie there, we wont have any issues going forward.

ya you never know how that works out,if Spriggs is still there at 41, do we take him? I think that was a possiblity.

As vets get cut, I suspect we will kick the tires on some. I would say LT and TE are probably the only two that make sense. Possibly that we look at CB but if you noticed the roster, Bausby, De'Vante Callahan, Bryce Fuller, Kyle Glenn, Jacoby McManis, Sherrick Porter, Tracy All draftee are listed as DBs and have played both S and CB Hall, Houston-Carson, Bush and then we added UDFAs Peterson and Calhoun We have 11 potential CBs on the roster, I dont see us going after a FA until we sort out the mess we have.

After Brian left , everything feel apart, you cant use him as the reason for turning into a terrible defense. Many contributed to the down hill slide.

Wow, you pick a few highlights and make that a career statement? Well lets see, Cutler has started every year of his career. Hoyer has yet to start a full year for anybody. Hoyer 2 mil----Cutler 17 mil Cutler actually has been to a pro bowl---Hoyer - stellar career Year Games Played Passing Rushing Fumbles Comp/Att Pct Yards TD INT Sacked Rating Att Yards Avg TD Total Lost 2012 2 30/53 56.6% 330 1 2 4 65.8 1 6 6.0 0 1 0 2013 3 57/96 59.4% 615 5 3 6 82.6 6 16 2.7 0 0 0 2014 14 242/438 55.3% 3326 12 13 24 76.5 24 39 1.6 0 4 1 2015 11 224/369 60.7% 2606 19 7 25 91.4 15 44 2.9 0 6 2

Anyone want to check Howard out , watch this game highlights of them against Michigan. www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnNghhKvDCs&feature=youtu.be

We all like to hang on to likable players but this shit just happens. With everybody they have gotten rid of, I got it, this one not so much.

What I am saying is give him his guaranteed money for a hit this year, and pay him like 9 mil for the average of his contract. Have it so this first year cap hit is 35 mil. and figure out a salary base more cap friendly moving forward.

I think they probably told him but waited until they added a draftee before they did the damage.

I honestly think Thayer likes the guy. I have heard him be team sensitive and still gave criticism

I dont like this move, but they are very serious about making over this roster. He didnt fit the Oline scheme, and had some health issues. I understand more at what there doing. Let me say, they are not done with changing the roster. There will be some other head scracters before its all done.

They say there is a health issure going forward. He missed time the year before so it might be a degeneration problem.Also he has a better chance of catching on with someone now that waiting till training camp.

Here is the new updated list on UDFAs. Joe Sommers/TE/Wisconsin-Oshkosh Roy Robertson-Harris/DE/UTEP Dan Buchholz/G/Duquense Kevin Peterson/LB/OSU John Kling/OT/Buffalo Roy Robertson/DL/UTEP Ben Braunecker/TE/Harvard Don Cherry/LB/Villanova Darrin Peterson/WR/ (Bonus) Mark Sewall/S/Indiana State (tryout) John Kling/OT/Buffalo Alex Hansen/DE/Air Force (invite) Taveze Calhoun/CB/Mississippi State Charlie Dowdle/TE/St. Thomas (invite) Kieren Duncan/WR/CSU-Pueblo (tryout) They keep throwing darts at the board to upgrade the roster. Everybody should remember that Malik Jackson was a 5th round pick and Trevathan was a 6th pick. The point is , you can find guys late in the draft and as Undrafted players.

Heard some more interesting info from Gabriel, the reason they passed on the two Alabama DL was they were looking for DT with more speed. That starts to make alot of sense. Bullard brings more speed than Reed or Robinson. They are all in on speed and being more athletic.I am starting to understand their draft a little more.

Lemmings posted on twitter, that they might need the cap space to finish a deal with Jeffery. They will front load a deal to use this year as the big hit.

Greg Gabriel is on the score right now and he said some of the problem with Slauson is he doesnt fit the line scheme they are running. They require more athletic types that Slauson, doesnt fit. Also there is some medical history that leads to his future playing time. Also he was brought in from the last regime and they want there guys in to fit what there doing. This makes a little more sense.

Do you think there up to something? I think maybe they have a LT in mind to sign or trade for need the cap space to make the move. Do you think maybe something in the works for Eugene Monroe? They drafted Stanley, you think maybe we plan to trade the 4th round pick we got for next year to Bal. for Monroe? He is not top 10 but at 29, he has several years left.He averages 8.7 mil over the next 3 years

There has to be more to the story, I thought he played well last year. At 30 he is not over the hill, I dont mind them releasing the Bennetts and the Marshalls, but Slausson was still productive and a team type guy. I see the younger, faster, but dont get this one.

Look at the state of QB in the nfl, he is Easley the top half of the league, dont let your hate view your vision.

I see slaossen playing center before whothair., he did well there last year.

We actually were up for drafting Spriggs in the second when GB jumped ahead of us to grab him. We tried but at that point you are just grasping for air. If every spot is good but LT, we will just put a 6th body there to help him out, or roll out away from him. I do not know if Leno is any good, but this year we will find out. I heard Thayer rave about him with great potential, so lets see how it pans out.

If we go by last year, most of these new additions will make the roster or practice squad. we all look at this as fillings all our needs but drafting Whitehair, the WVU LB was just adding good players. I have always thought this was a three year rebuild, I think the talent may put us in a position to sniff the playoffs this year, but that is just my optimist, may not be reality. If Nick is good, you may see Freeman go away after this year. Whitehair could be the starter from day one, which means we just have very good depth at the centerline positions. I like the fact he let the draft fall to him. In the second when he fell back, I thought that was bad moves but it got us Bush and Hall, so that may turn into being brilliant moves. We ended up with another Edge player in Robertson-Harris and Braunnecker that could easily have been late round picks. So I think we did well with fillings needs. We didnt draft a QB, so we grab Hoyer. We didnt address the LT spot but Leno may be good enough, if not they can grab a vet to the fill the spot for this year.

I think this coaching staff sees what we see. If Leno isnt good enough there is some FAs avaiable than can get us through a year. I still think if Whitehair is good enough, they may try him at LT. His one negative is short arms, but that may still work out. I know they will put the best 5 on the field, and with more options that seems safely to say this will become a strength. Bectin is the backup right now, but lets see how it shakes out. I think all of our picks are not just for this year but our future. Our future line will be ??- Whitehair- Grassu-Long-Fabuluje . Leno could develop, but the guy may not be on the roster yet. It is a process. One thing is for sure they have addressed the Oline this year. Larson,Ramirez,Massie, and Whitehair

I think it will play itself out. Grassu will sit this year, to many better options but will force him to work harder, and that wont be all bad. As far as Long, he is better than Leno, but your probably right, just have to wait and see about that. All the one year guys we brought in were just upgrades to our depth, but the best guys will be out there, so that aint all bad.

take the blinders off, you cant get out of your own way, Cutler is in the 14-16 best QBs in the league, and someday you will accept that.