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I think we can find reasons to hire someone or reasons not to according whether you like him or not. Belicheck has been fired twice but everyone knows he's a major talented coach. I think , like you, if will be a smooth transisition to keep a coach that has helped Caleb play better, shows play calling ability and can keep the same offensive system for next yr. If Brown goes at least 3-2 and the offense is much better its a no brainer. A new coach may want a different roster, may like a 3-4 defense, add a new offense that will have a learning curve for a young QB. Stability is not over rated, quicker to get to the promise land.
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I thought Love had an intercetion?
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Poles took a GM job with the parameter of he had bosses that interject into his job. There is enough noise to suspect some of it is true. I think he is a smart man and will try to overcome something he has no control over. Until ownership changes we cant do anything about interference from the owners. We can just hope Poles gets what he wants. Why would any of that change if we hired all new people? Its best to roll with a GM that had made positive effects on the roster and cap space.
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We get to watch in real time, him audition for the job.
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It may not be Trey Smith but any vet help at the top of talent scale will not be cheap. The OL has been a big puddle of mud this yr. Injuries come into play but I think he brings one quality FA to stabilize the OL. he will add a couple rookies but rookies have learning curves. The experiment with Nate Davis a above average talent at 10 mil a yr didnt work out. He will pay more for a better option. Last year, Lions brought in Kevin Zeitler at 35 for 6 mil but you take chances on older players. We need a fix now while Caleb has 4 more yrs small cap space left. Dave Dalman is a talented center that's a FA this yr and the Falcons will have cap problems next yr. Maybe they go after him. Humphrey is making 18 mil a yr as the top center and Dalman will get at leat 12+ Maybe they grab him, brig back Jenkins, and draft a pouple of OGs. Next yr the OL has to be ready to go, they cant experiment anymore, Smith or Dalman would solidify a younger line.
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I think if they draft a LT high, they let him and jones battle for the spot and loser is swing T. Also Kiran name will come into play since Poles drafted him for competion at LT. One of them may be shifted to OG. Since Poles was in KC when they drafted Trey Smith, i think he goes after him to anchor the right side of the line. him and Wright would bully players on defense. Chiefs effective cap space next yr is 5.7 mil. They just dont have the money to keep Smith. Smith will commmand 20 + mil a yr and I think Poles fits that in his cap space.
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Im not sure there is any inside sources that leak information from Halas Hall. Poles draft choices were always a surprise and not the gereral plubic thought. Its just clickbait coming from jouralists trying to make story. Florio suggests the Bears trade for a coach and its gets blown up, like that is a Bears choice. They are not doing that. They are not paying anybody 15-20 mil to coach here that takes some coaches off the board. They have to finish paying Flus 5 mil for 1 or 2 yrs. George isnt a big money guy. Gruden was making 10 mil a yr when he got canceled. I would say he would want 10-12mil to coach to get back to the NFL. I have heard Johnson will want 10 mil as the hot hire. Belichick is getting north of 15 mil. Vrabel got a 9.5 mil extension in 2021. he will cost 10-12 mil. If Brown excels the rest of the year, he will probably make 6-8 mil as a HC. That sounds more like a George hire to me.
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They are not trading for a coach when competant people are avaiable. they are building something and have QB of the future here now with lots of assets to win with. They dont need a miracle worker to change the path. I read where last year Harbaugh wanted to meet wth the Bears, Poles was interested and Warren nixed it. He had a riff with Jim while he was Big 10 Comish. I think a lot is coming to light about Poles wanted to make positive changes and was getting slammed upstairs. I dont know how good Brown is as a coach but i like the way he handles himself. We shouldnt overlook a gift in our house already if he wins. 5-0 or 4-1, he becomes the leader of the pack. If 3-2, a long look.
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I just goggled it and there was so much information on it, didnt find any reason to be specific. The PFF website states that all NFL have customized subs foe each team. I think the reports come from Sports Management Worldwide ( an organization). It said 32 teams, over 100 colleges and 9 CFL teams use their services. I think the biggest problem with Braxton is exactly what Mongo and Ashkum said, its not strengh as much as he lets players outleveage him when setting his base. He is excellent ar run blocking and would not open up his stance inside like he does on the outside.
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I think its an imperfect system but there are NFL teams that subscribe to them that think differently. They do customized stats for every team in the league and they pay for it. Many journalist love them. I see several snaps where he looks bad but they look at every snap and compare to other OTs in the league. I dont watch all the Ts in the league, so maybe every player has several bad snaps a game. I take PFF, my eye test and how the NFL rates then to form my opinion.
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Its a big mess but since none of them will be leaving the Bears anytime soon, might as well go with, Poles wanted to do the right thing, and the brass wouldnt let him. Franchise isnt being sold anytime soon Warren will be here until the stadium is done and then run for Mayor of Chicago Poles is safe for one more year. Like you said before, the coach hire is the most important asset for this franchise but we have to wait 2 months to find out.
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This I will say he is a good run blocker, if Poles has him in the mix for several positions, let the best man win. He justs needs to bring in competition at several spots. 3 draft picks and Trey Smith.
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I understand your take on PFF, a very flawed system but the most complete place to compare players. Trent Williams is the best LT, but has a ton of penalties, that counts. What PFF tells me is the OTs are at least average OTs in the league. Our main problem is IOL, do you agree?
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Rumors are just rumors until they prove the truth. Poles seems like a realist as a football guy. Loyal to Flus but when he lost the team willing to move on. so I have a tendancy to believe he wanted him let go after the AZ and NE games , clearly the team quit on him. I think his sounding board is Warren and Warren answers to George. They wouldnt let him. They got embarassed in Detroit, and changed their opinion. Poles biggest mistake was being loyal to Flus after finishing 5-3 at the end of last season. Things were looking up. 2nd was his OL build that blew up with Davis checking out and Bates being injured for most of the year. Shelton is actually our most consistant OL. I think I seen he was ranked as the 6th rated OC according to PFF (boo) Adam? When he sees a weakness he attacks it, I think he brings in Trey Smith at RG, and drafts the crap oot of OL. Brings back Jenkins and Shelton on team friendly deals and best man wins. Next yr Kiran A. will compete with Jones at LT and be competant depth for who loses.
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good post
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If Brown wins more than he loses, he may just be given the job. Look at salary, problably the cheapest option of which George will look at. MY CHOICES: Vrabel-Gruden- Brown Does Johnson have the smack in the mouth persona? I dont know
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Agree ,questions with the OCs that have never been HC before. Vrabel will punch you in the mouth, experience and have had success, what he didnt have was the QB.
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When Dan Campbell got the job in Detroit he said ("We're gonna kick you in the teeth, and when you punch us back we're gonna smile at you, and when you knock us down we're going to get up, and on the way, we're going to bite a kneecap off. We're going to stand up, and it's going to take two more shots to knock us down. And on the way up, we're going to take your other kneecap, and we're going to get up, and it's gonna take three shots to get us down. And when we do, we're gonna take another hunk out of you.") Media was laughing at him for his neanderthal comments. Now look at him. Toughness counts, part of the reason Flus got the job with the HITS principal but he didnt back it up. What I see ouythere that would do that is Vrabel and Bilicheck, Bills not coming here.
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That's a good list, when players get hurt and dont perform up to contracts, I give a nuetral grade. No one figures injuries. What Poles does that I like is not give a lot of big contracts that are long term hits on cap. Edmunds is an above average players but not lived up to the money. Its hard to find Edwards and Billings cheap pay , good play . Edmunds is a leader and presence in the middle of the defense that doesnt always shows up in stats. Sweat has had nagging injuries that has slowed him down. Davis and Claypool are the only players that got good money , the rest were just cheap contracts he took a shot on. He paid JJ, Kmet, DJ Moore, Sweat and Swift. Swift has not lived up to par because of the poor offensive play of OL and play calling. Sweat has been bothered by injuries. All those guys he paid deserved it. Edmunds ??? He has excellent cap space and 4 top picks 11-37-40-73, I say that is gives us a good future.
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Brown is auditioning for the job, 4 or 5 wins gives him the job. 3-2 or 2-3 and Caleb keeps getting better, maybe. I like Vrabel, he seems most like a Dan Campbell type and has had success. He was doomed because of QB play, here he has it.
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Obviously putting Caleb in the best position to win is the most important aspect of this offseason. It wouldnt bother me if he ends up our HC. It would be nice to have a 5 game winning streak at the end the season to prove he's the man.
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Thomas Brown is auditioning in real time for the job. I think they hire someone that has already been successful as a HC instead of being the training ground for first timers. Vrabel- Kingbury-Gruden? I dont really care O or D as long as its the right coach. Quinn-DeMarco Ryan-Tomlin were all D coaches.