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so where do you get your information? I doubt if you walk in to the Bears office and they show you a contract.

you seem to have put a lot of effort into this, but to create a situation that costs us nothing this year seems a bit unrealistic.

As far as cutting Cutler, I think his guaranteed money is his no matter what he does. So anyway you look at it, it costs 16.5 against the cap. If the powers that be perceive him to be the best choice we have, he will be our QB and they will coach around his weaknesses. here is his contract details: Contract Details Total Value: $126,700,000 (avg. $18,100,000/year; $38,000,000 fully guaranteed) 7th highest of 105 QB contracts Year Base Salary (Guaranteed) Bonuses Cap Number Dead Money & Cap Savings Prorated Roster Workout Other 2012 $7,700,000 $1,400,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $9,600,000 2013 $8,470,000 $1,400,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $10,370,000 2014 $17,500,000 $22,500,000 $1,000,000 $0 $0 $0 $18,500,000 2015 $15,500,000 $15,500,000 $1,000,000 $0 $0 $0 $16,500,000 $19,500,000 ($3,000,000) 2016 $16,000,000 $1,000,000 $0 $0 $0 $17,000,000 $3,000,000 $14,000,000 2017 $12,500,000 $1,000,000 $2,500,000 $0 $0 $16,000,000 $2,000,000 $14,000,000 2018 $13,500,000 $1,000,000 $2,500,000 $0 $0 $17,000,000 $1,000,000 $16,000,000 2019 $17,500,000 $0 $2,500,000 $0 $0 $20,000,000 $0 $20,000,000 2020 $19,200,000 $0 $2,500,000 $0 $0 $21,700,000 $0 $21,700,000 Those details are off of Over the cap website. Its looks confusing being transfered but is clear if you look on the page. If we cut him our dead money this year is 19.5 and save 3 If we cut him next year our dead money is 3. and we save 14, so I think your information is wrong. I think the sooner he goes the sooner we can start fresh but if we have to pay him and no other good choices, it would be dump to not keep him around.

Tillman is a good man, but would never be the type of CB in a 3-4. He was a perfect cover 2 type. As a safety he may find a spot, but think only way he comes back is if we cant fill that spot because of all the needs we have.

Williams and Gregory will be long gone by our pick,thats to bad they will be studs.

GRADE 6.32 ? 6'2" HEIGHT 339LBS. WEIGHT ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Bends well for a big man and has ability to play with leverage. Space-eater who is able to maintain good positioning against double teams. Consistently gets his hands inside offensive linemen first. Controls, sees it and sheds to make tackles. Surprising ability to swat cut blocks and chase stretch plays laterally. Played a high percentage of Washington's defensive snaps. Has the strength and athleticism to dominate in the running game. WEAKNESSES Despite girth and leverage potential, can be a little inconsistent at getting push off snap. Dominates lesser centers but doesn't seem to look nearly as dominant against more talented centers. Will quit on a play when he's blocked. Produced eye-catching sack numbers for his position in 2014, but much of it was against lesser competition. Must work to keep weight in check. NFL COMPARISON Alameda Ta'amu BOTTOM LINE With his thick frame and powerful upper body, Shelton has moments where he can dominate at the point of attack. He was forced to chase sideline to sideline due to the nature of Pac-12 offenses, but when he faced downhill competition like Stanford, he stepped up. Shelton is an above average interior pass rusher for a man his size thanks to his surprising athleticism. He is a fit in a two-gap scheme and could benefit from playing fewer snaps than he was forced to play at Washington. GRADE 7.06 ? 6'3" HEIGHT 245LBS. WEIGHT ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Explosive athlete in every sense. Has elite power for his size and explodes off the line like a coiled spring. Rushes passer with extreme passion and purpose. Has fast, violent hands with advanced understanding of how to use them. Tough and plays with bad intentions on each snap. Uses rip to get under linemen and out-leverage them. Played 4-3 defensive right end in base but rushed from three-technique in some sub-packages. Once he gets to blocker's edge, they struggle to recover and redirect. Rare ability to post inside leg and get his body turned sharply and quickly around it toward quarterback. Excellent change-of-direction talent. Has natural coordination of head fakes, footwork and hand usage in pass rush. Works hard to stand his ground against power. Has power in upper body and hips to punch and dispatch with tight ends against run. Rarely runs past the arc as a rusher and will fight to come back underneath if he gets on the high side. Was able to drop into space with no issues when asked. WEAKNESSES Lacks ideal length as an outside rusher. At times was engulfed and glued to the bigger tackles he faced. Can get too focused on hand fighting if he doesn't win with hands early in pass rush. Will occasionally stunt himself out of a play, opening up running lane. If rushing from inside, must learn to set up teammates when running "T/E" (tackle first, end under) twists. Relies on arm-over inside and slap/rip outside -- needs more variety to pass rush. NFL COMPARISON Chris Clemons BOTTOM LINE It's hard to find many weaknesses for Ray. He pursues the quarterback and the ball like it's his last snap. An alpha male packaged in an explosive frame, Ray has the traits and skills to be a dominant pass rusher and potential Pro Bowler. He also has the athleticism and strength to play in any defensive front. Here is one NFL persons view of both prospects. Neither one is a sure thing, but Ray has more upside for being a potential all pro type. We could use different names for different examples to make our point but we need to look at what is our choice in front of us. Either one will turn out good players but at 7, I am looking for the star player of which I think Ray will be.

ok hot shot, your going to pass a potential 15 sack year guy for a line eater? misguided

We signed our undrafted FA to a two year extension. 1. Chiles 2. Lattimore rebuilding the team begins for Pace.

So who is the best player on GBs defense? Its Mathews not the nose tackle. You can get a fat guy in another round that will fill the spot but will not find the OLB except in the first round.

The most important position in a 3-4 is outside rush backer, Shane Ray

Besides bad drafting, paying large contracts to FAs has also got us in trouble. , McCorty is going to cost 10 million a year. It ain't happening.

You could not tell that by there performance.

I don't really care what they do,as long as there better. We now have coaches that are smart and flexible. They will add some parts and make do with the roster. It can only be a hybrid until they the guys for there system.

Ditto

I think they get a couple FAs, but they aren't going to load up on them. They will build threw the draft, this will take a couple years.

Those two names wouldn't bother if that came true. I think the most important position in the 3/4 is OLB and if Shane Ray is there I want that to be the pick. If not Shelton would fill the second most important position. I hope some our players sucked because of bad coaching.

Nobody cares

He will add some pieces and then design his defense around the talent on the team. It will take a couple of years to put together the talent to be successful.

You liked our young LBs last year and Veeren, that didnt turn out so well. The point is I hope they do a better judging talent than we do on here.

I got the rounds mixed up thought it was a 4th

Pace will draft the BPA and the first 10 are usually set as far as talent . So the names won't be a surprise. Collins is really rated as high as he has shown, he is not a special player. I don't think petty is either even as a 4th round pick.

There going to bring some players in and not get rid of players that have valve under contract. There will just run a hybrid defense and make it work out. I think they draft Ray and perryman and sign Culliver/cb and make it all work

I like the names but we don't have a 4th round pick, so that pick won't work. The first two are spot on

If I ever maintain a good connection (Honduras) I will put some thought into this. Carey will get acguud shot at our power rb this year . Last year was so dysfunctional , how could we tell how good he is

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