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Poles has plus and minuses during his time here. He took over a terrible cap space and roster to get us in his 3rd yr wanting to fire everyone because we think we should have been in a playoff spot. He got rid of Fields and drafted Caleb knowing that would affect the win total. He could have keep Fields and traded back the first pick to fix the OL and add a few studs on the DL. The extra first round pick could have got a starting LT leaving Jones as a swing T (depth). With a extra second round drafted Zack Fraiser/OC. He brought in Coleman , Bates and Pryor to fill in the depth with the injuries. Kiran could have sat and got healthy and to take Jenkins spot next year. Another stud on the DL and we would have 2 or 3 more wins. Who knows who Poles will bring in is a big question mark but after 3 yrs, he has to know what he will need for his QB. First time GMs always has growing pains, but I think he's a smart guy and will get it right this time..

He is going to be gone at the end of the year. You realize had we won, it would be another + in Poles eyes for keeping him. Caleb played better today, Brown had a more comfortable offensive plan to fit Caleb's progress and we almost won. Clearly the players have bought back in to Flus at least for 1 game. Here is Poles X account if you would like to message him yourself to let him know your opinion. I have DM him 3 times and the only respond I got was when I gave him a cudos for keeping Flus. (my mistake) Im sure one of his his assitants runs his accout but I did get one response lat winter. Ryan Poles @RyanPolesBears

For now, 3 rookie QBs are playing better than him. Everything cant be blames on coaching. When he misses a WR thay/s not on any coach. What bothers me the most is the 60% accuracy .

So if we would win today , what will that mean for the rest of the season? Possible but not probable. Love has 10 ints on the yr, hei s not the Darling everyone thought they would get from last yr. If we can control Jacobs, under 100 yds and keep them to FGs in the red zone, we have a shot. If they limit Caleb to throw quick and quite holding the ball to long, we have a shot. 23-18 bears

A lot of it doesnt make sense, Im sure they all do but the OC is the one doing the game plan with Caleb.

We will see what Poles has for football IQ. You would have to fire him for his judgement of hiring coaches more than on the field stuff. Poles doubled down on it, so the finger gets pointed at him also, but he's not firing himself. Yes, a lot of bad choices but any coach (good ones also) make bad calls every game. The good ones make fewer. We have the advantage of hindsight. I have seen some podsters say had we keep Fields and the traded the first pick for a haul we could have loaded up on OL and DL and won more games. I dont disagree with that. I think CW was the right choice for the future but Poles is getting heat because we are 4-5.

They never did say what got him fired but the specualtion was words in an email. I hate judging people without knowing all the facts. I have watched his podcast several times and he's a smart football mind. The best we could hope for is a Johnson or Kingsbury.

I heard they didnt want a bunch of different voices in Calebs ear. Joseph and Wadron were the only 2. Flus obvisously had some contact but took a minor role.

The only miracle this year was a Hail Mary(not ours). 4-4 would be considered a miracle at this point. CW is the secret sauce, if he starts playing well, we may be surprised at the number of wins. Always the positive thinker.

That is the way it should be, Im saying the Bears arent going to do that. Poles will be remembered for the great trade and drafting Caleb Williams, not because he screwed up sighing Davis. Talking about all of the regime being fired together, do you think that makes the case for Poles to keep him and ride it out instead of firing him? I would rather have a lameduck GM than keeping Flus.

He has 8 games to get something going. It beats leaving Waldrom running the show.

Year 3 of 5 year rebuild: Poles retains Flus ( who was still under contract) because he went 5-3 at the end of the season. He had the defense humming and the lousy offense got blamed on Getsy. Poles drafts Caleb-Odunze-(TRADED 2ND ROUND FOR SWEAT)- 3rd round T( coimg off an injury that would have went in 2)-Blue chip punter-future edge. Brings in Shelton-Bates-Allen-Everret-Swift- Pryor. Davis blows up, Borom-Bates-Kiran all not able to start the season. Jenkins proves he cant stay healthy and Wright and Jones get hurt. Bad spot for any team let alone the Bears. Waldron proves he isnt a good coach, reflects back on Flus for Judgement. Caleb struggles add in the OL chaos and bad coaching, we are 4-5. Now we have questions about Poles over allowing this coaching chaos to happen and mistakes on the OL/ Poles will not lose his job, he will get a 4th yr to correct the course. Need a new coach, and assets on the OL and DL. He has money and picks to make that happen.

Sunday will go along way from burning the year down or giving us some hope. I still think the main focus should be developing CW. If they slow it down and focus on running the ball, Caleb will look better and show greatness one in awhile. I doubt it will happen but I'm not good at prediciting the future. The 1st 4 picks need to be OL-DL-OL-DL Sigh Trey Smith/OG and move Kiran A. to LG. Bates starts at C and draft one.

With the train wreak we just experenced, this season still has 8 games left. We eliminated 2 problems so lets see the effect. We still have a good defense, high level weapons and a potenial franchise QB. This is not the time to give up hope. Flus is showing he is a problem with his hires, he will be gone at year's end. Stromberg has an upside if he can avoid injuries. As AZ said, Bates played well for his first action. Now if we can get back our OTs, our OL can be better. Brown could be an upgrade on simple fact he may focus on run game which limits QB mistakes by a rookie. Waldron gave to much responsiblity to Caleb that clearly didnt have good results. Calm the offense down , control the time and let the defense force Love into some mistakes, we may have a shot.

That is how losers think, I agree . Iast yr we were 2-7, this year 4-5 with 8 games left. The most important function is to develop CW. Last yr with a worsr team we finished 5-3 aganist a schedule that included GB, Detroit-twice Minny. We are not going into next year with a 11 game losing streak. Depending on injuries we still have a shot at going 4-4 which would be more wins that last yr. If CW does actually develop, that is doable. We changed one problem, so lets see what happens.

The only way Flus survives is if he's 6-2, odds of that are near impossible. You have to hope Poles makes the right choice because he's not leaving no matter what the team does this year. If you're your thinking of a Harbaugh type hire, that wont happen but maybe a Gruden, someone that got kicked out of the winners circle for an email.

With our 1st pick, I want them to take a LT, many start in their rookie yr. Move Jones to swing T and move Kiran to LG. We check out Bates for the rest of the yr. Still draft a OC and sit as a backup until he's ready to go. Draft a player than can play all 3 IOL and sign Trey Smith starting right G for KC. KC has cap issues coming and wont be able to bid on him. 3 rookies starting on the line could be a diaster. LT rookie- Jones as backup LG Kiran A.- rookie as back up. OC Bates - rookie as back up- sign Shelton for depth ( he can play all IOL) RG- Trey Smith- rookie as back up- Shelton for depth here RT- Wright- Jones as back up-rookie You have a mix of vets and rookies Kiran in his second should start to show his value and Wright in his 3d yr should dominate.

Poles is only going to get one more hire for HC. He has to win now or his job is on the line, he's not going to make a mediorce choice. That was his first hire and he flunked, he's going to scale up. Poles was new at his job, now he has more insight into what we need.

Of course they will, even thou teams are running on us, other than AZ, the defense isnt giving up a lot of points. I kinda like the track record of Brown , he was in LA and McVay thought enough about him to make him AS HC to not lose him. I think he was there 4 yrs. In Carolina, he became the Panthers play callers the last 6 games. He interviewed for the HC job in Tenn. We may have a diamond in the rough and he might be good at it, future HC?

They havent posted the Wanny interview yet. Here is another that says good and bad about the Bears offense

It was the Score talking to Olin Kreutz and later in the day with Dave Wannsted. Here is a video that explains some of the problems in the game.

We wont know the effect of the change for a few games, but at least they are admitting, its jacked up. From what I hear, part of the problem Waldron was giving to much responsability to Caleb, allowing he to change plays and call line adjustments. You cant give him 4 options every play , he keeps trying to go downfield to much with a bad line. Keys: run the ball-30 times 2 TE sets to help with blocking / RPOs Only give him 2 WR options dump offs to TEs, leave back in to block. Roll outs and designed runs

Does anyone like Gruden as a new HC option?

I think we just need a fresh prespective changing what we do.Morton came from Seattle with Waldron, at least Brown was not in that clan. Morton has never called plays, Brown at least has experience and being from Carolina, knows what doesnt work. I went to look up Browns history and he is not listed on the Bears website listing coaches. We keep talking about everything coaches fault but if players exicute better the play calling would look better. When Caleb misses a WR on a throw, its not the play callers fault. When a OL misses a block, it blows the whole play up. When you run the same play call 10 times in a game, that's a pay caller screw up.