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I agree with your list other than Urlacher,( unless we sign him real cheap) He will never make a full season unhurt again. Bad knees. We have to fill the roster and keeping our own back at reasonalble prices makes sense. Melton will be the only high paid player on that list. hopefully at around 6 mil.

They all sound interesting but after checking them out. Onobun is just an athlete has never did anything college or NFL, Toliver is a career underachiever, and Nelson has potenial to make it as a backup.

After he evaluates them, we dont know if he will like them, I dont think he can create caviar out of crab, but we may be better than it looks to us right now.

who you refering to Bush?

I think he is a 6 mil a year guy, they wont franchise him for that money.

McKinney is a free agent this year. If he keeps his weight down, a serviceable pro who could help for a couple of years.

I have seen several different figures on our cap space. the latest one I seen published was 13.3 mi. I also seen where we can carry over cap money from last year of 3.2 mi.. Hopefully we dump Spaeth, Davis, Hester, which would give us another 5 mil, if I got the right information. That would add up to 21.5 million. Lets say we resign Louis, Roach, Melton. I would that would take around 9 mil. Gives us 12.5 to play with. I say we draft a LG and ILB. amd TE in our first 3 picks. Then in FAgency we sign a LT, WR. Say Albert(KC connection) or Bushrod(NO connection) and then D. Avery-WR(speed guy). I would say we can get all that done. OL New guy, Cooper or Warmack, Garza, Louis, Webb or Carmi. Other options resign Scott dont resign Louis and bring in Brandon Moore for RG. The more I read about Bushrod, the more I think that might not be a good idea. I want Albert.

So were down to seeking out one play to tell us how good he is? His production sucked for the last 1 1/2 years. Look at game tape, not good, not good, ok, one good play, aint happening.

that remains to be seen exactly what we will be doing with the Oline, I would assume a composite of all the minds involved.

When I mean by cheap is someone under 3 mil that could help us out. I want to throw out the first name; Brandon Moore-OG-Jets it is 33 and had a great year. I think he could be a Ruben Brown type that could help us for a couple of years. The Jets are 26 mil over the salary cap, so I think we can grab him here.

One last footnote on this subject until the truth comes forward. Teo was voted second least like sports figure in the country. So I guess other than ND fans, most people aint buying his line of crap.

It is quite simply look at his production, 0 zip. we dont need to pretend anything here. done, gone, new guy

The key to the OL is having some new bodies for more options if people fall short. All of those names are a good scenario, I just have major doubts about Webb, we have to bring in a LT somewhere to compete there. Andy is 6-2 302, not the ideal size to shift to LT. I prefer to spend the money on a LT in FAgency, there is talk KC drafts a LT with the first pick and Brandon Albert doenst want to move to guard, so he may want to be somewhere else. Also if KC gets a FA QB, they might not be able to spend big money to keep Albert there. We might be able to get him for 8 or 9?

They gave that away to Miami.

I have seen where the TE from Stanford, is starting to be taken higher in the mock drafts.

What did Lovie coach him to run slower? He has lost a step, confidence, and his decision making sucks. He needs to be gone, enough with people that cant play anymore, but we need to respect them because there were good once.

Then I guess were on the same page

If you look at good LTs saying Webb is average is quite lame. The reason he didnt get help is lousy LG play and the RT-Carmi was actually playing worst. Our Oline was rank 32nd and 30th the last two years, are we really saying any of the OLine was good, thats impossible. We need to replace everyone of them, and since in one offseason , that is near impossible I think we need to resign Louis, Scott, add two and I would prefer to 3 new lineman to compete for a job. It would be wonderful if Carmi, got good, and Webb actually became average, but we cant go another offseason with the same bodies. That is insane. Keep those guys add some new ones and let the best men win the job.

You may be right, we need new people everywhere. I think we cant wait for the draft and HOPE will get one of the top 3, no guarantee, one will be there and the drop off is great from that point on. I think if Louis recover quickly we bring him back, and resign Scott. We draft a OG and pick up a LT in FAgency. Webb may be back by default, but no matter how we paint it, it wasnt that good. Not being horrible is not a compliment.

If you look at history all KRers always start to go downhill around that age. He is what he is. He cant do it anymore, and dont have Lovie to protect him. He will be gone.

He improved this year, but he was still bad.

So you want to pay a backup WR 2.8 that cant return punts and kickoffs anymore. I think I will pass on that.

That means he might be gotten cheaper. If we can get him for 5 mill, much better for us.

If he is using the word (punk) so much Brian, maybe you need to use smaller words so he can understand you better.

I dont think because he is being paid less makes him better at blocking, I get your point. If we dont have the money, then he may be back there, but no matter how many people say he played better , he wasnt very good.