Stinger226

I have looked at several draft grading players and there is about 18 that are considered first year starters/pro bowl potenial players.So I will list and figure out who might be there at 19. Luck,Griffin,Richardson,Blackmon, Floyd, Kalil,DeCastro, Reiff,Glenn,Fleener, Kuechly, Coples,Ingram,Brockers,Cox,Claiborne,Kirkpatrick,Barron. These are players falling in those spots. Also could move into the top 18-Poe,Tannerhill,Wright,Konz, Jenkins, Upshaw,Martin,Gilmore. So as the draft goes will determine who the best player available at that spot. We wont be going after Luck,Griffin,Richardson,Fleenner. that leaves 14. We wont have any chance of drafting Blackmon, Kalil,DeCastro, and Claiborne, because they will be gone.So that leaves us with 10 Potenially moving up into the top 18, I think Poe Tannerhill, Upshaw, goes sooner. Leaving us Floyd, I think he will be gone Reiff , I think he will be gone Coples , I think he will be gone Barron, I think he will be gone. So our choices will be, depending on how the draft goes. Kirkpatrick/CB, I think with our Free agents, we dont draft a CB in at 19 Kuechly/LB, I think odds are he wont be there. Brockers/DT I think odds are he will be gone. So I think our choices will be from Cox/DT, Ingram/DE,Glenn/OL out of the top players in the draft. Also close that we could take would be Martin/LT, and Mercilus/DE. I dont think we go WR at that spot with the potenial to grab Wright or Hill. I think that will be one of those players at 19, unless we move down. Martin and Mercilus arent in the group of top players but close enough that we might reach for them.

He still have to prove himself, and we will be drafting somebody at some point to compete with him. Enough of this (he might be good) we need options if they dont pan out.

Urlacher is in his last year at about 10 mil. Do you want to keep a 35(next year) LB at 10 mil for a couple of more years. I think he stays around but not going to get big money. It didnt do much damage with Kruenz as our OL cornerstone. I dont want a high pick at LB but I think if Kuechly falls they definitly think about it. He is a stud and we find a spot for him.

I think they think they have some flexability now. If they get a tackle they leave Williams at OG, if they fill a OG spot with a FAgent, or a high pick they move him out to LT and roll with what we got. I think it is easier for them to upgrade at OG in FAgency than OT so depending on how the draft goes we have some flexablity . I think Spencer is the depth at OC and OG so he stays. I think he plays better at OC so maybe they consider that move with Garza.

I dont think they go CB until 3 or 4, he is not our stength, but it is not now a major weakness.

I think he was a decent player that we wanted back at our price, but we must not have been offering him more than a one year deal and he did better with the Bucs. That leaves us with at least one DT to draft and maybe two. I think there is a strong possiblity that the BPA might be a DT with that first pick, it depends on if there is a run at a position.

I think the possiblity of the BPA could be a DT, which wouldnt kill me, but not my plan.

Here is what I would like to happen in the draft.(not necessary what I think will happen) At 19-we trade down with Houston to 26 and get there 4th(4) and 5th(161). At 26-we pick Perry/DE logic-Houston wants a WR and Wright is still there at 19 and he played at Baylor. at 50- we pick Massie/LT fills a need and could become a starter if Webb fails later in year. at 79-we pick T. Johnson/CB- big with the potenial to start in first year. at 99-we pick A. J. Jenkins/WR- adds to our depth with speed and production. at 111-we pick Jaye Howard/DT- a rotation guy takes Okoyes place. at 150-we pick A. Allen/SS-depth with size and production at 161-we pick Manning/OLB-speed and production. 6th round-Hanna/TE- a speed guy with potenial 7th round-Messina/ILB- a productive player that played at Urlacher's college. I used Walters draft and NFP player valve to make my wish list. I had to go by something. I tried to address all needs and listed players I think can make the team in 2012. I think Perry becomes a situational pass rusher. I think Massie has potenial to start if Webb fails after some developement I think Johnson could start his first year. I think Jenkins contributes as a slot WR his first year. Howard becomes a rotation player Allen adds depth Hanna sticks as a pass receiving TE I think Manning and Messina sticks as ST players and adds depth to LBing. We will address our LBers next year with a first round pick.

I would say that opens the possiblity to drafting a DT high in april.

there has been a lot of busts in the first to, generally you get better players the higher you pick. I would like to say you have to know what your doing, and this is suppose to be Emerys forte so we can only hope. There a lot of examples finding a good player in the second round, but most of your impact players are higher in a draft.

I like the picks but Quick will not make it past the 4th round, so that is way off.

Nobody will let you move up in the first or second round only giving up a 6th round pick. In the first, you will be giving up at least a 3rd and a 5th, and maybe have to give up your second instead. For the second at least a 4th and something else.

Barron would cost us a first round pick, so that wont happen and we will be drafting a DT, unless they in some way could still get Okoye to sign.

I pretty well agree with your evaluation. I think we have to look at this from Emerys point of view as new eyes doing the evaluation. The QB position was a disaster after Cutler, and I think we have been lucky with him being as healthy as he has considering the OLine. He improved that and backup RB cost us a playoff trip. So he got us better there, and if Forte holds out can carry the load. You cant bring in good players without spending some money so they cost what they cost. Marshall was huge, and he got that done. I think he sees what we see and will get some additions to the OL yet in FAgency, as he has looked at Herrea and Steinbach, and I still think he could sign one on the cheap. Then moving Williams to OT and drafting one in one of the first few rounds. I would have prefered a higher priority on the OL but were not done yet. The DBackfield needs more help, and we will add in the draft. LB absolutely, but will add one and try to get by one more year. DL, yes yes yes , will need both a DE and DT and will address them in the draft. I think we draft a DE,DT,LB,CB,OT and WR in the draft. I still think we add a vet SS but the tinkering will be done after the draft as we obtain players, we will cut some and free up more money. I dont think you can fix everything in one year, and now are a better team, but the top 4 draft picks have to hit and at positions of need. We didnt have big money to spend as some people on this site suggested, but have did well with what had to play with. The draft is his stength and will tell us a lot about Emery.

anyway you look at it, you get a better selection(if you know what your doing)at 19 than in the second round.

It depends on who is sitting there at 19. If someone like Coples, we should take him.

I think we address that in FAgency, someone like Atowge, Hope, Leonhard, Bell will sign for a min. for a job, and can fill in in a chance one of the young guys dont develope. Maybe a late draft pick, 6 or 7.

A high draft pick that takes Roachs place and slides to MLB or WLB wouldnt be a bad thing. What if Kuechly drops? I think we can find a high rated player at a position of need but he is a stud and the BPA , you never know. Get him, play him SLB and dont give Urlacher more money when his contract runs out.

I think we need to add another WR prospect, but it doesnt have to be early. IF Marshall gets some kind of a suspension it changes everything. I think one more added to the bunch is a necessary, but in the 3rd or 4th can still be a good player. Hester is just going to be a special play guy, maybe in on 25% of the plays, so I dont think you can count him at a top 3 Wideouts.

I would say a min. contract compared to a 3 year, 8 mill. contract is quite a bit of difference. I dont know about what he might get but if it is twice the min. , I understand why you go with that.

I think the possiblity exists that a high draft pick could be a LB. Our depth at LB sucks.

Tell me who is better? Other than Tillman, not the top of the food chain.

Hes not a stud, but is now the second best CB on the roster. Now that we have him in the fold, I would say DL will be our first pick.With also the need of another DT, I think that the BPA at DE or DT will be our first rounder.

Emery stated that they offered Okoye a contract and he has decided to take visits with several clubs.

With all the OL draft info I read Glenn is starting to get my fancy, he is projected as a guard but can play OT. So he would give us the option of LG,RT, or even LT if needed. He is rated as a very good player and listed as a potential all pro. I think if one of the top DEs arent there, I would grab him before Martin or Adams.