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As you compare them, Philly will be good this year, but arent as good as GB. I think NY and Detroit will have similar records, and as you stated, just made a great SB run. I think the Bears will be much better than Dallas,(I hate Dallas) Redskins will be improved but not much better than the Vikes.

As you compare them, Philly will be good this year, but arent as good as GB. I think NY and Detroit will have similar records, and as you stated, just made a great SB run. I think the Bears will be much better than Dallas,(I hate Dallas) Redskins will be improved but not much better than the Vikes.

Pro Football Weekly was rating the best divisions and the North had a slight edge over the NFC East. Hey its a slow topic time of the year. I agree with them, I think the Packers are the best team in football and Detroit and The Bears will have above 9 win seasons, so that should put them over the hump.

I am not angry, just dont understand it, and I can see you dont have an answer to that question. I do enjoy the humor.

I dont understand why Cutler and Marshall are blowing smoke up Hesters ass. He will just be a special play guy, not even going to be on the field 33% of offensive snaps, but everybody is lauding him. I dont get it. Marshall pretty well wont be leaving the field, Bennett and Jeffery will be the primary Wrs on the field and then Hester. We will see more two TE sets . Where is all the snaps for Hester. There is a reason he hasnt stood out as a WR since he got here, and I dont see him being special now. A PACKAGE PLAYER, sure he can get some plays, but dont see him geting more than 35 catches in his new row. What say you.

Down 30 lbs., he will never see a regular season game again. Tough luck,but a life is more important than playing football again, and his dream will slowly slip away.

He is making 3.3 mil, so what would he want for money. Last year he caught 75 passes for 765 and 2 TDs. I would say we could give that a shot.Spaeth is making 1.75, who would be worth more?

He had a major injury, and now is 38, along with his ego, and tool mentality , now a good combo for a job.

I play a lot of fantasy football and was only looking at it with stats. The only reason I listed Newton and Vick ahead of him was because of what they will contribute with the rush. As far as a pure Qb, It would be in my top 7.

With Jays new toys this year where do you think he falls in QB ranking at the end of the season? Most national rankings have him listed as around 14-15th ranked QB in the league. I think he makes it to the top 10 this year with around 30 TBs and 4300 yards. Ahead of him will be Rodgers,Brady,Brees,Stafford,E. Manning,Newton,Vick,. I think he falls in the same spots as Rivers,P. Manning,and Rothenbeger this year. P. Manning would be higher, but injuries will take him out of some games. Vick and Newton only rank higher because of their rushing TDs. If we were more of a passing team, he would be close to the top 5, but the run will still be high on the list for our offense.

Pompei has a informative article in the trib on this subject. He talked to an player agent and a team negotiator and both put a fair contract at 19.5 guart. and around 8 mil a year. I think from what we know of the Bears orgingal offer, just give him a 3 year deal at 24 mil with 17 guart. and be done with it. Although, I think Forte base is what everybody but the Bears think is a fair deal. Plus, he would want a 5 year deal.Other than team disruption, I have no problem with a two year F. tag and see him go away. He is creeping into the years where a RB makes a big drop off after 29 if you give him a long term deal.

I like his confidence, and he has a track record to prove he can play.

I agree, and you think that would get it done, but so much for tempered egos. Sean Jensen on the Score this morning brought up an interesting point. With all his good stats, he doenst score TDs as the same rate as the better high paid RBs do in the league. example McCoy-20 TDs. Forte-4 Even D. Williams, who really sucked last year had 7.

For Gods sake dont bring those letters up again.

Here in an interesting article from NFP. The Philadelphia Eagles understand this process. With LeSean McCoy set to enter the final season of his four-year rookie contract, the Philadelphia front office cleared the necessary cap space and rewarded one of the league’s best running backs with a five-year contract extension worth $45 million with $20.765 million guaranteed on Thursday. McCoy is happy. The team is happy. 2012 could be a big year for the Birds. LeSean McCoy landed a lucrative new contract extension after a record-setting 2011 season. The McCoy deal serves as the most recent example of how the Eagles have done an excellent job of identifying, evaluating and solving potential problems. Disgruntled wideout DeSean Jackson got his big payday back in March and should be nothing but smiles heading into training camp. Defensive woes were addressed with the acquisition of veteran linebacker DeMeco Ryans as well as the selections of DT Fletcher Cox, LB Mychal Kendricks and DE Vinny Curry in April’s draft. The forecast is looking good in Philadelphia. But just over 750 miles to the west, a storm has been building on the horizon. Chicago Bears running back Matt Forte wants to feel the love. Since entering the league in 2008, only five players have amassed more total yards from scrimmage than Forte. Two of those players (Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson) struck gold last offseason and should be financially set for life. Forte wants to join CJ2K and AP in the VIP section, but at the current moment, the Bears don’t appear willing to shell out the paper. This much we can accept as fact: Matt Forte deserves a new contract. He earned a trip to January's Pro Bowl and during his first three seasons in the NFL, Forte started all 48 games for Chicago and accounted for 33% of the Bears’ total offense. But does Forte deserve to be paid the same amount of money as LeSean McCoy? He and his agent will vehemently argue yes, but they could run into some pitfalls along the way: 1. Age: Forte turns 27-years-old on December 10 while McCoy turns 24-years-old on July 12. That’s a big gap when it comes to the running back position. Forte also has an additional 436 touches worth of tread on his tires, having played in 14 more regular season games than McCoy. 2. Competition: McCoy is the featured back in Philadelphia and will only lose carries if he’s hurt or needs a quick break during the game. On the other hand, Forte now has to contend with the likes of former Oakland Raider Michael Bush, who signed a four-year deal with the Bears back in March. Bush is one of the league’s most underrated running backs, having amassed 1,395 total yards and eight scores in just nine starts last season due to an injury sustained by starter Darren McFadden. With Bush on the roster, the Bears won’t need Forte to handle as much of the load as he has in the past. 3. Career Production: McCoy is coming off an All-Pro season in which he was named the FedEx Ground Player of the Year while setting the Philadelphia franchise record for single-season touchdowns (20). He’s averaging 5.29 yards per touch for his career vs. Forte’s 5.02. In addition, McCoy has found the end zone once every 24.3 touches during his career, while Forte is scoring once every 42.6 touches. The above chart illustrates another discrepancy between the two players. In McCoy’s three NFL campaigns, the Philadelphia running back tends to produce at a consistent level throughout the entire season, while Forte’s production tends to decrease during the second half of the year. Further complicating the negotiations will be the Arian Foster dynamic. The Houston running back signed a five-year, $43.5 million deal with $20.75 million guaranteed back in March. Forte and his agent, Adisa Bakari, will likely point to this extension as well during their talks with the Bears front office, but you have to remember that Foster has produced at a much higher level over the last two seasons than Forte. Since 2010, Foster ranks second in the NFL in rushing yards (2,840), first in rushing touchdowns (26) and first in total yards from scrimmage (4,061). He’s also a year younger than Forte and has 451 less touches worth of wear on his tires. As it stands, the Bears appear content to let Forte play out the 2012 season under the franchise tag at a value of $7.742 million. That’s a significant wedge of cheese, but it pales in comparison to the $20+ million in guarantees that both McCoy and Foster landed this offseason. Identify, assess and solve. Chicago and Philadelphia have taken two different approaches to a very similar problem. It should be interesting to see which organization’s approach yields the greater return.

Webb isnt very good,and giving him another year to prove himself is risky for Cutlers health. Our next option is C. Williams, he worries me too. And Carimi going to the left side will be the 3rd option.. I suppose Brown figures to be the 4th option, but not likely. So I guess everything is not a total loss, maybe one of them work. Actually I want everyone to have sucess, but will settle for just one.

CBS sportsline listed a writers top 100, so (without cheating) can you name the 4? Honestly I would have missed one of them, but got the other 3.

I dont think they have ever been cheap, and agree, spend money badly. When do want someone they go out and spend, the problem is they usually have the wrong opinions of people and waste money, which makes them more fruggle when spending it.

Hey I am routing for him to do good, I just have serious doubts due to his past performances. I am a big Bears fan and want every player we have to be the best, but have to do reality checks in my view of the team.

Webb was rated the worst LT in the league last year by PFF who does the stats thing. I agree the off season affected him, but what is his ceiling? 25th best? He needs to make a giant leap, we cant keep experimenting with the LT spot. It is to late now to do anything about it, so hope he jumps forward or C. Williams is solid if moved in to the starters role.

So what will be the biggest buzz when training camp breaks and they come back to Chicago? Forte holding out? Cutler-Marshall duo looking great? Alson Jeffery becomes a starter? J. Webb loses starter job to C. Williams? Carimi move the the LT position? Im making the call, Forte a holdout.

6 mill. Beliceck makes 7.5 to lead the way.

The problem is in two years, he hasnt made any progress. You would assume anybody would improve in that time if they had talent. I havent seen it.

After Cutler came out and made statements about the OLine, Webb told the press he would be ready to play that all off season he has been "eating and drinking football" and has Cutlers back. It thats the case, last year he must have been on a fasting diet.

Lovie is 6th on the list of all pro sports coaches, just not the NFL. So much for the Bears being cheap.It is from a article posted on PFT.