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I think the possibility exists that if he doesnt take our low ball offer to him, he retires. Other teams look at tape and see what he has to offer and find out he isnt worth the risk. If he decides to come back here at our price, do you think he becomes a problem in the locker room because he didnt get his price he wanted? I think he is quite a selfish player from the point of view of what he thinks he is worth. He held the franchise at bay when he demanded an extension a few years ago at about 10 mil a year. I always admired him as a player on the field but I think he has a big ego, and isnt going to give the Bears a discount.

I think the only way drafting a QB happens is if we acquire ,more picks. It would be a wasted pick if we take one late in the draft, you pretty have to get one prospect by the 3rd round or it isnt worth much. How many late draft picks at QB make it in the NFL? Maybe a few, but most get lost in space. Ideally it would be a good idea to have a top prospect in the mix, in case the Trestman-Cutler relationship doesnt work out, we could have someone in the wings to take over, but the lack of picks throws that idea out the window.

We have to see how it plays out. If he is injury free, that would be great, but I think somewhere along the way, we made him an offer and he rejected it, but he settled for less because of the lack of interest. The first day you sell a car, you want top dollar, after a week, you find out it isnt worth as much. The one thing I like about Emery is he figures out our needs and jumps at trying to fix it. He doesnt dick around and let all our options fall away and end up with nothing. He addressed the OL, TE two huge needs and got it done. There were better names out there, but if they werent obtainable at our price, it isnt an option.

I think his time has passed, I think he will struggle to be average, but like you said we dont have many choices. I would prefer someone else but if we bring him it is not the best interest of the team to pay him the 10 mil he wants for two years. I would give him 2.5 for one, but I guess that means I disrespect him or something. I think you pay players for what there worth, not on past laurels. He use to be my favorite Bear for many years, but I think it is time to look to the future, not live in the past.

I'm ok with all that, but if he plays somewhere, its still the fact he is playing?

Mike Wallace will be the biggest bust in this offseason. He will have ok numbers but nothing to what he will be paid. Its all about valve.

I can buy into that one.

I didnt do proper grammar on that. Our first pick wont be a CB, (LB or OL). I meant it to say that is what we will be drafting.

First of all (I am sensitive) and secondly FAs will not look at letting go of a old veteran as mistreatment. Every time comes for vets, it just happens to be his time. As I said he was my favorite player for many years, but if we can get him cheap, I am all in. I guess that means I am disrespectful to such a legend. He will play average at best,and not play a full season and I dont think that helps our team be better.

Your right, but it will have to be a risk,because we have limited draft picks, and will have to concentrate on more pressing needs. You cant fix all problems in one off season. We missing bodies at other positions, at least we have many there.

Your love for Urlacher is way off base, we need a competent LB not a past hero. Because of our cap situation if you bring him back on the cheap and that will be worth someone, but first of all he wont be playing a full season, so we have to bet a backup to replace him anyways. Secondly he is a liability on the field, you get some valve from leadership quality but that is all your getting. He is a year older and his body didnt miraculously change. Look to the future and quit living in the past.

We aint getting either one.

Our first pick wont be a CB, LB or OL. No way we draft a RB, we have 4 signed, will address more need positions.

The problem is the 3-4 needs more LBs, something were short on. No way we change now. Melton cant play NT, Paea is a better fit for that spot.

Do you think he is worth 5 mil a year? I really understand your point. I think as a team leader, he can be used but if we have to pay 5 mil, we can get two starters for that. Its about what you place on him for valve.

Kolb just got cut, maybe he has some upside that Testman can get out of him.

I think there are a lot of above average CBs hanging around in FAgency and once some teams blow there load some of the top names, we can get one on the cheap.

Im always friendly(ask twig and SCS) will gladly wager anything you wish. Urlacher's baby picture OK?

I think they sign or draft a couple of more options and let it fall in to place according to what they show in training camp.

Your always well spoken, you need to keep up your common sense approach to viewing the Bears.

I dont hate him but am considering his football skills. He was my favorite Bear until Peppers got here. Does anybody remember last year when Lovie got fired and he said he dont care about the fans and they dont know anything? He was an oustanding football player at one time, but his time has passed. I think we can upgrade the position, so why not want that? If he comes back cheap I am for having him here. You dont pay people for there past performance, its detrimental to the team. I am huge Bear fan, but dont wear rose colored glasses. A good draft prospect will give us a better game that he will this year. He will be lucky to play 12 games any of his years going forward. Our GM and coach doesnt have the same loyality gene that Lovie carried with him. I want what is best for the team.

He will turn 31 this month. It is a chance to get a good player on the cheap. Two new draft picks starting could be a problem. I guess if we resign Urlacher, that changes things. We still need to draft his replacement, he wont play over 12 games in the coming year.

We have a number of roster spots to fill: DT- We have Melton, Paea, Collins. We need at least one to fill a rotational role. Options (Idonije) can play both DE and DT, and as FAgency drags on, can be brought back cheap. (Sedrich Ellis) was a bust for NO, but is young enough to become a descent player. (Derek Landri) has some pass rushing skills. Draft-a very real possibility W LB-We have Briggs,JTThomas,Costanzo,DeCicco,Franklin, Trahan,Wilson Options (Urlacher) only if you can get him on the cheap, not a very skilled player anymore but has leadership qualities worth hanging on to. (Daryl Smith) played with Tucker at a high level (Brad Jones) played well last year as a fill in in GB (Larry Grant) played well when Willis was hurt in SF (Thomas Howard) had a torn ACL but played at a high level before he went down (Kevin Brunett) played well in Miami, but at 30 only a couple year stop gap Draft-possible Olgetree in 1st, or Brown,Collins in 2nd, Reddick or Bostic in 4th speed WR- we have Golden Brittan,Joe Anderson ,Weems Options (Titus Young) no way (Daius Heyward-Bey) speed guy that didnt live up to expectations (Louis Murphy)not much of a football player (Brandon Tate) KR type Draft- Austin in the first,Baliey or Wheaton in the second, Stills or Swope in the fourth,Boyce or Robinson in the fifth OL we have Brown, Williams,Carmi,Dennis,Brandon,Priscal, Webb, Garza, Options (Louis) our best option at RG (Scott) with Webb and Carmi back to RT, dont see this happening (Moore) older pro that can still play (Boothe) can play both OG and OC Draft- Cooper, Warmack, Fluker in the first, Warford,Thomas,Jones in the second,Flotz,Winters,Schwenke in the fourth, Gilkey,Cave, Madsen in fifth OVERALL- I think we should trade down with AZ and grab a 39,68, and a extra 6th With that we 2nd-Warford/OG 2nd-Wheaton/WR 3rd-Scjwenke/OC 4th-Bostic/LB 5th-Gathers/DT 6th-Wilson/CB 6th-Knott/LB We resign Louis,Idonije, McCown. We pick up Smith/LB.

How about bringing back Josh McCown ? He played better than Campbell played last year when he got to play the year before.

Its ok, they have a chance to upgrade the positions. I see Daryl Smith coming here for the same money Roach was going to get. He has a relationship with Tucker. Mark that down as an upgrade.