Stinger226

Good teams dont get rid of good LTs, you know the money?

I think a quality LT is more important than a 6 sack DT. Grab a OG with the first round pick and then a DT with the 2nd. Resign Idonije for one year and were go to go.

The poor guy, what luck just when he was about to become the 23rd best LT in the league and then this happens.

He is not going to be great or bad, he will eventually be a starter and have an average NFL career.

so whats your point? If he goes back up to 255 for his playing weight, he runs a 5.00? The combination of off field antics, bad national game, and poor athletic showing puts him in the second round and if he is there at 2 for us, we have to consider it. He will not be a star but will be a starter in the NFL. Probably a good comparison would be Ray Malaluga? Starter but doesnt shine at the next level.

Someone is going to release a TE and we need one so put the two together and the Bears have interest. That is a tough rumor.

I was just jacking with twig to get a reaction, it will be in the second round. Then he is not even here.

If anybody wants him, we should be able to get him in the 4th now. twig be here singing the praises of one Te'o greatness soon.

When you have such glaring weaknesses on the line, you just simply cant address that position in the first round. He would be a good addition, but that aint happening. TE will be addressed before our 4 th WR position.

We will be able to address that in any of our first 3 picks, and still have an upgrade.

I'm usually with your opinions, but your offbase with Carmi at LT, just because he played there in college. The pros is a faster game and certain characteristics fit better at different positions. He ain't a LT.

I agree the better players we stick around him will make him look better. It is not that I dont want him to succeed, its just I dont think he has it in him. this year I recorded all the Bear games, and he just didnt look good to me.

The only way Webb starts again is if we cant afford to bring in a replacement. Our offense will be different but you CANT let him have that spot without competition. Watch the tape on him and put those stats sites to a rest. He aint that good.

I forgot Baker, but isnt Cherilus a RT?

I m with you Boyce or Wheaton would fit just find.Stills-Okla or Sanders-South Car could be added to that list. Sanders didnt run well in the combine but will show more speed at his Pro Day.

Odds of us signing a top type LT in FAgency is slim especially, if we try to resign Melton. SO here are our choices:(no particular order) Max Starks- older but maybe a stop gap for a year Wil Svitek- played well last year, older but maybe a stop gap for a year King Dunlap- a little younger and maybe can last 3 years (not great) but I will accept average at this point Jason Smith- a second player overall bust in 2009, maybe Kroner can bring him up to par ( Im reaching with this one) I think due to his age, Dunlap would be an inexpensive choice, and if he WEBB beats him out, I will have to eat some crow.

late first, early second. Who needs him in the top 15? that doesnt need more apparent help.

I dont think he makes it out of the 3rd, but I think taking a chance on him, if he falls to us in the 4th would be great. Athletic, speed, KR,PR specialty plays on offense. Worth a chance at 4.

Those are 3 names I am looking at. I think one will fall there. I would say it would be really nice if we could trade down, and get a third to make sure we get one of those guys. If we trade down we could still get a starting OG like Warford or even Jones will be there, early 2nd

That will never happen, I wont mind that, but there will be many options for a speed guy in the 4th, I see Austin as a (Randall Cobb) type, which would be great, but still think the 1st round will be a OL, no tackle, then one of the top two guards will fall.

I agree, we need to fix the OL, but handing the LT job to Carmi could be a disaster.He hasnt proved anything yet. We need someone to compete with the LT spot, and move Webb to RT, or retain Scott and have them battle for the job. I thiink we get a OG draft pick for LG and Copper should be there. We need to bring someone in to compete for LT in FAgency and see it to be a second tier guy. We need options if our crap OL incumbents stay shitty. A OG and LT and resign Louis and Scott. That is the best I think we can do without dreaming.

The speed thing just moved both of these guys up one round, which is bad for us. Austin went from the 3rd to the second, and Goodwin from the 4th to the 3rd, which we dont ha

Every thread that comes on here seems to always go to the OL, for good reason. In order for us to fix this, it wont be with big money players. I believe it will be with a drafted OG and a second tier LT. They want to resign Scott as a swing tackle, not the starter so that tells me Webb will be moved to RT to beat out maybe Carmi? or Scott? Or Carmi goes to RG, I suspect. Somebody brought up Dunlap, it will be someone like that for the LT spot, I suspect. SO---new guy, Copper or (if were lucky)Warmack, Garza( who actually if starting to fall off,so I see a later round OC draft pick), Carmi or Louis, Webb or Carmi. I believe this will be what we have to work with when the season starts this year. That will be with in our cap restraints, and hopefully improve the line. We still have Brown to develop, which maybe in a year move copper to OC and Brown takes over LG. I dont think we have a lot of options. But on the other hand, lets dream and say we draft Johnson/LT and sign Leverite/LG and get Barret Jones in the second. I like to dream but always come back to reality, it aint going to happen.

Clady will be tagged, end of that dream. Peppers contract is restructed to put the money on the end and that prohibits us from a long term deal with Cutler. Melton could be let go, if he is stuborn with the 8 mil a year figure. They can due some cap dancing but it would never be enough to grab both Clady and keep Melton. that would be 18 mil we would of had to come up with, never happen.

There is a real good chance KC drafts a LT with the first pick, so Albert might be available, since he stated he doesnt want to play OG. Bushrod has a tie here, so why say he will sign else where? Your probably right about the rest. Pats wont let V go he was the best RT in the league last year.