Stinger226

He automatically becomes the best OLinemen we have. Sign him cheap, draft a 5th rounder to develop and have a margarita.

Ruben Brown was old and we got mileage out of him. He is an upgrade to anything we have and he was actually rated higher by PFF than the great Levirte/Bills. Age means we may only get 2 years our of him, but I am all in.

The trick is, if you dont keep him you only save .5 mil. Thats the same has having a minimum salaried player in his place. I choose to keep him.

There is no (set in stone) that he will not play all 16 games but another year older and history shows us he didnt play a full year in the last 2. Doesnt sound like something you bet your house on. And now he has a bum knee, that aint coming back full strength no matter how you want to put it.

What about last year tells you he still has it? His not having the heart to play anymore when he thought about retiring? Thats the guy I want to pay 2.9 mil to get me 20 yard returns.

He needs to just suck it up and play a 2 yr, 5 mil and live with it. What kind of incentives will he have, like playing 12 games? That means you paid him to much to play 11.

He is a leader of the defense, but if he dont come cheap, we dont have the luxury of having him here. 3 mil, tops and I can accept him around another year.

So, if I got this right, we need guards and will be ok with our tackles? My proposal is we need a LT and LG. do I have this right.

What you dont know about me is, I am able to completely humiliate myself, and not even break stride. What is the proposal?

The problem is if we bring in back at a reasonable price, we still have to draft a replacement, because he will not play 16 games. His body wont let him.

Urlacher was not above average last year. It would be hard to make the case, average. Since most people on here are into stats, I think he was the 45th best rated LB in the league last year. I am not sure 45 is the spot, but will have time to look it up later. He wasnt good.

Im all in, tell me what you have in mind.

He is a FA , he is no longer here, he doesnt matter.

Your right on, I think he lost a step, lost his confidence and doesnt have passion for the game anymore. Take the 2.4mil and buy someone that wants to play.For 2.4 we can get someone decent that can play, or roll the dice and make excuses for why he is still here. Deal with it, it doesnt have it anymore.

Your right on, I think he lost a step, lost his confidence and doesnt have passion for the game anymore. Take the 2.4mil and buy someone that wants to play.For 2.4 we can get something decent that can play, or roll the dice and make excuses for why he is still here. Deal with it, it doesnt have it anymore.

If we were a team with cap space, they would all be gone. We went from 32 nd to the 30th rated OL. LTs get drafted higher and get paid more, and there is a reason for that. Woulda coulda shoulda, we cant continue playing Russian roulette, you eventually lose the game. They cant fix all the problems in one year. SO- they have said they wanted Scott back as a swing tackle, wanted Louis back(injury ?). With Carmi here they probably have faith in him to be a lot better this year over last, due to his injury and not playing strong. So that tells me They expect Carmi to play RT, Louis to be the RG. Garza is at OC (diminishing returns). So we need a LT and LG. The probably exists we get the LG in the draft, so we need to find a LT somewhere. Hopefully we can find him in FAgency, if not, grab any players that upgrade the OLine and we try to work it out. Webb may be back , but cant be our first choice at that position, that tells us, we have the same mentality as last year and that wouldnt be good.

If we can anybody that is an upgrade we need to do it. I think they are dumping him for money reasons and the fact Alberts doesn't want to play OG. They plan to put him at RT.

Winston was released today by KC. He didnt play well last year, but was one of the better RTs two years ago in Houston. May be able to add him for a reasonable price.

Whether he had good blocking or not, he doesnt look instinctive anymore. We cant play Lovie and keep hanging on to players that dont have it anymore. We have a fresh start so save his cap money, you dont pay a KR,PR 2.4 mil, and find someone new, a rookie that will make 550,000 this year.

He is just back peddling from talking stupid when Lovie got fired. The Bears are that stupid to give him an extension. Maybe tear up the old one and give him the vet min.

Spencer is a FA

Lots of people have opinions, we will have to see who is right in the end. If they spend 8 mil it won't be a OG.

Maybe not "really really good" but good? Yes. Those numbers I posted can confirm that....I don't wanna say he's as good as or better than Albert because that just sounds dirty but those numbers are there. Alberts 09 year, the year the article was touting, he was 25. Webb last year was 24. It was also Alberts 2nd year at LT. So once again if his pressures stay around the same he'll have produced better totals at nearly the same age and the same year at LT....His penalty total could also be better and to elaborate on the last numbers I threw out there for his 3 year total of penalties, Albert had 6 in 13 games. Webb? 7 in 16. Once again it just sounds dirty to say he's better than Albert so I'm not gonna say that, but if continues to play like he did this year I do believe he very well could be on par with him. Does this bring any memories back.

I have never put any words in your mouth, go back and read all my posts. Here is something you mentioned in one of your posts from a few days ago.(Maybe not "really really good" but good? Yes. Th) Those words came from your post.

Levitre will cost more than any of these TEs so there wont be a choice between the two. We will not be signing a 7 to 8 mil OG in FAgency. Cook will get 5 to 6, Davis and Bennett will be around 4.