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From the stuff I have been reading, there is a chance he wont even be drafted. Lovie is a speed guy, so if we get some one late rounds, they will be able to run.

That is a good list other than Dennard wont be a 2nd round pick.

McShay is a good talker but if you look at players he rates high, he misses just as many as he hits. I would take Kirkpatrick over Gilmore, but its a mute point, we wont be picking a CB in the first round.

The New York Giants seem to draft DL every year and it has turned out well for them. If the BPA is a DT, we need to take him. I would prefer Cox but it aint my job, so this is just Bear talk.

I don't care what positions we draft as long as the first four picks turn out good players, to many weak spots .

Draft is suppose to be his. Stength, no matter how it looks from this side , it just has to be right later.

We have to many holes to fill, giving up what u would have to to get to those spots ain't worth it . To me maybe you had a shot at Kahil, or maybe coples, at 12 who be considered, but probably to expensive.

You and I are big on the OL needing to be upgraded, I just dont feel as confident in C. Williams as a good player. You have already given me a researched history of why he isnt our LT, I just think , he isnt because he just isnt much good enough. I think if the draft goes wrong and we dont get a high level OT then we have to give hm a shot, but we need options if he fails.(again)

Cox would be a good valve and need for us. I think one of the top players will drop, the question will be which one. I think with Tannerhill will be taken early so that gives us one more shot at one of our needs. Do you think we would consider Brockers if he drops as a DT that fits our scheme.

I agree, not looking good going forward, the problem is a weak draft for safeties.

I hear a lot of teams like him, but dont like his lack of production for such a stud.

You have a talented list. I dont think we consider a DB in the first round, with so many potenial good players there at a position of need. Lavonte is not a first round pick, so he shouldnt be on that list. Coples should be first, and Reiff has to be on that list. I swear I have viewed almost every mock draft put out and have never seen Lavonte drafted in the first round. I think GBND,PFW, and NFP are good at there player evaluation and they have him listed as 48,39,36 respectively. A good player thou.

I agree with you list except for Poe( a combine guy with NO production)refer to Gilbert. and Gilmore as we wont be drafting a CB in the first round with so many potential good players being there at a spot of need. I think at the end of the list will be Merculis. as our first round choice. I think Rieff at the first one is spot on. If coples and Reiff are there, a big debate in the war room. I think Jones is a late first round to mid second round pick, which we shouldnt consider in the first round. 1a Reiff 1b Coples 3 Floyd 4 Cox 5 DeCastro 6 Kuechly 7 Martin 8 Ingram 9 Glenn 10 Merculis There are a couple of DB that are worth taking at that spot but simply think, they think, they could get a cover 2 starter in the 3rd or 4th round and wont draft one at 19. I think one falls from the front of that list other wise It will be from one of the the last 3 picks. I think, they think highly of Merculis, even thou there are better rated players on the board. If Reiff, Martin, DeCastro, and also Glenn are there they greatly consider drafting them do to our need to up date the talent at OL no matter what position.

Experts dont do very well at this, but we can try and I put a team on.

We are contending for the playoffs right now, but because of our depth, one injury to a key player could take us from that. We have to have another option at OT.Webb hasnt arrived yet and if Williams was a clear talent, he wouldnt be bounced around so much. People talk about how good he looked at playing LG before being hurt. He played average, and to be drafted as a first round LT thats not a good thing. If he was so good, they would have put him at RT when Carmi good hurt. Louis playing RT with the able bodied Williams on the roster, that speaks volumes. He is an ok guard, not a very good tackle or he would have been playing there with Webb the starter. WE need another quality OL preferable a OT and let the cards roll as they may. Another WR in one of the first 4 rounds and two DL and we may be a lot better.

First you would definitily have to consider Floyd, but he wont be there at 19, so end of that conversation Jones wont be a first round pick, so maybe taking him in the second is possible. the others do fit if drafted in the later rounds.

If you take a chance if has to be after the 3rd round and with no other good players to choose from.

You are right it is stupid, it bothers me that you make statements and stick to it when you are wrong and actually it is the cap space one that bothers me. You state it was proved to be right when you give nothing more than I told you so as a back lash and give no support to your statement. I will tonignt after work give you a detailed list of what money we spend and show you you were wrong, but then you will say, who says that source is correct. Give a little support to your arguement and I will be glad to admit I was wrong, but I am sure facts with not be good enough for you. You actually have a lot of good input in these blogs, but not all do you support you statements, and I need to give more support to mine as I will tonight when I give you our money spent list.

I dont think there freeing up any money, I believe there are spending more money.I am wondering if this extension has anything to do with Urlachers knee problem, might be more than a short term problem, and they think of him not being here pass this year and dont want to have possilby two stars being gone in a trasistion period.

I dont see us drafting a WR at 19, but wouldnt be upset if they did draft Wright, he is consistently listed as the 3rd best WR in the draft and would fit well with Marshall. Also I think they should consider McClellin at a DE. He is a productive high motor guy and I think he could play DE but most list him at OLB. He probably is a 2nd round type of pick.

I agree and at least he seems to have a plan. I dont think you can fill all of your needs in one year, but think with a good draft he would make a big dent.

I have always agreed with you on the importance of a quality LT, so in your opinion, who is worth that draft spot at 19, and would be worth that spot in the second round? I think from our draft spot Reiff, could fall, Adams and Martin could be there. So I think all three will be LTs in the NFL and could play at a high level. I also think Glenn should be considered, but everyone is projecting him to a OG, but think the possiblity exists to play LT. In the second round I think Massey could be considered and could be groomed into a starting LT that would upgrade our team. In the 3rd round I think J. Allen could be considered and possibly be played at LT., but probably not his first year.

Here up to this date either already have visited or have them coming in(draft prospects we have looked at) WRs Wright and Randle Wright would be with the first round, Randle would probably be figured to be taken in the second CBs Tandy and T. Johnson Tandy would probably be UFA, and T. Johnson a 2nd or 3rd round pick LBs Z. Brown, D. Fleming,B. Irwin(will be a DE) Brown a 3rd round pick, Fleming 4th or 5th round, and Irwin a 2nd or 3rd pick. DL T Fuggar(DE) C. Jones(DE) Fuggar as a UFA and Jones a 3rd rounder OL OT Stephenson OG Leary both would be UFAs TE A. Robinson late round or UFA Information came from PFT

If they looking to add depth, that probably tells us , they wont be going first round with a OT. Althought at the min. he could take Horns roster spot and they still draft a high pick at OL.

Most of the best OTs were taken in the first round. There is exceptions to that rule, but the better players are higher picks.I would just like a Tait type of player, better than average, doesnt have to be elite.