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I think that could be a reason why Jay would have been even "less" of a leader at that point (since he was pretty much on the outs by that time). However, I guarantee Feeley talked to others who confirmed what he thought and said yep, been like this all year.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0128-story.html Pretty interesting article. A lot of what we've already heard but Feeley is a pretty intelligent guy and already kind of works in media (outside of occasionally signing on when other teams kickers get hurt).

That is why I'd prefer Moore. I think you could get him for quite a bit less. I don't need all pro, I'd like above average though. And at 24, his age is a positive.

Willie Young and Stephen Paea both had careers years and our young tackles weren't bad either. Ratliff played good too. Allen was only guy with major degration and that was probably due in part to age and in part to getting really sick. I thought in general, the dline was the strength of our defense (yes...that is kind of an oxy-moron but it was).

Hurt is a good coach. This is a good move. One of the few guys on last years staff that was solid, imo.

I was thinking a 3-4 might actually extend his life. He can read a defense and tackle, its more that his range is limited but in a 3-4, he'll actually need to cover less ground and in reality play better for an older Briggs. That said, I still have a lot to learn when it comes to all of the nuances of a 3-4 defense.

Familiarity with Fox, great age so you would feel more comfortable giving him the money, etc. Allows you to focus on BPA and really shore up a major need position in the secondary. Pair him with Mundy / Vereen and maybe Gholson (Ex 49 er safety who will likely be cut by Tampa).

Does Briggs fit a 3-4? Given all the needs, if we add one or two young players, not a bad thing to have a dedicated Briggs back. The question really comes in to his dedication. Of course, I'm one of the few on this board that has been a huge Briggs fan, although last year he clearly was pretty upset and don't like the way he handled himself. I presume the Bears will not bring him back but in Fox / Pace I trust. I would hope Fox, Briggs, Fangio and Pace could talk and see if they thought there was a good fit. I am most concerned on his inability to stay on the field though. He was still our best lb'er (not that it says much) when he was healthy. At least make sure you don't turn this into another "Urlacher" situation. Lets handle this one right. Say what you will about Briggs, but he was a borderline hall of fame linebacker for the Bears and had a heck of a career in Chicago. My perspective if we probably should say no thanks and try to bring some new leaders into the fold, who can be voices of the Fox / Fangio / Gase regime.

See my other post. Pats could have circumvented (but still met) rules by inflating balls with higher temperature air.

Agree. I was more referencing to you talking about moving up with the other pick to grab a safety. I don't think you fall in love and move up, outside of a spot here or there and you better have another plan to get other picks. Bottom line, percentages and odds say you are going to bust and miss so the more picks you can scoop up in the early to middle rounds, the better.

Lol....ahh good ole willie. I always think of him as an end but agree he'd be more of a fit on the outside LB in the 3-4. Agree the ends are typically bigger but not necessarily your typical tackles. They tend to be heavy but also tend to have longer wing-spans, etc. Houston would seem to fit the mold more than anyone else we have from the end perspective.

That could be explained by their practices as well though. I have heard many ex players talk about how much Beli would make them practice in the various elements, etc, and how much him and his assistants would drill ball control into their heads (more so than any other coach they had played with).

Greene will get cut and you are proposing 3 DT's in a 3-4, all of which were relatively high draft picks and one who had to sign a big contract (Paea). Or are you implying Ego / Paea would be ends? Whose young?

I vote for the Beliceck philosophy. Trade down, trade down, trade down. Accumulate picks and talent and value the mid-round picks. Don't be a fool and get caught on the sexy top end talents, accumulate picks and you'll be able to maneuver all around the draft.

On a sidenote, as I mentioned, be leary of media reports. Well PFT is reporting that 10 of the 12 footballs were under-inflated by 1 PSI (not 2). http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/...or-deflategate/

Haha, seems like Brady should have hired my buddy who could have done it within the "rules" and gotten the same results, haha.

I have no way to say that Bostic is solid. He's been better than most of our crap but that is still comparing him to crap. He's been a disappointment and I have been very consistent in that regards. Our entire LB corps has been a disappointment. Undrafted rookie linebacker Christian Jones became our best linebacker by season's end for pete sake. As slow as Briggs looked, prior to going down, there wasn't another player in the LB Corp who was even close to him. Both of those things should tell you all everything you need to know. For whatever reason, this board is too easy on some of our turd players and always so quick to blame coaching, etc. Coaching stunk but I'll call a spade a spade and our LB's were worthless.

Dang, I'd have made that bet when it was -160, haha.

So Alaskan, my buddy actually has a response to your question on the Colts balls and why they didn't deflate. My buddy said you could engineer the balls to have more deflation by inflating them with hot air and ultimately you could set the temperatures of the air and essentially pass your "smog" check if you may and than as a result of using hotter than typical air, see the ball deflate more significantly due to the elements / temperatures (because the balls started with a much higher internal temperature). So in theory, the Pats and Colts could have inflated the balls with air that were different temperatures. Pats could have used air in excess of 100 degrees while Colts used a standard contraption with a standard scenario.

Results stunk and he was in over his head, but he was probably one of the classier guys on the coaching staff and one of the few of the primary coaches whom the players really stood up for and seemingly played hard for. Wish him the best at Bama and hope he can learn from the disaster that happened in Chicago.

It is absurd the NFL didn't figure this out sooner (if it really is a big deal). They should control the footballs, just like the NBA / MLB do too.

And I further note, if it turns out that a Pats employee doctored the balls, than as far as I'm concerned at a minimum, Brady knew about it and orchestrated it. Don't know if Beli did / didn't but at a minimum Brady would have known. No one is messing with the Pats footballs without Brady's blessing.

Welp, looks like I am wrong. http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/1...e-investigation

We know absolutely nothing of the Colts footballs. Nothing has been reported about them. The Colts footballs were not in question. The Colts football also did not have to be at the same PSI level as the Pats footballs. I don't know those facts nor does anyone else so speculating on them isn't the answer. Here is another article from a reporter from the sun sentinel who did his own, albeit not overly scientific test, which resulted in the football losing 1.95 lb's of pressure. Hell, maybe the Colts footballs were stored somewhere, none of us know as nothing has been reported. Do we know if the league even checked the Colts footballs at half time? http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-d...125-column.html

I don't really think so. No focus has been made on the other footballs at all. Part of that is because the NFL has a range of acceptable footballs and no one complained about the other. I think it is highly probably that the footballs lost at least 1 PSI due to the elements (if not more). I have two friends that are physicist who have been blabbing about this for a while that this whole story is a joke. To them it is simple math. I presume some of this will come out when the NFL releases the rest of the evidence. But of course, everyone will have already tarnished the Pats in the court of public opinion because of certain things that leaked out in the investigation (vs. all of the facts).