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And where would the Packers and Colts be had they made those moves? Packers ended up winning a superbowl with Rodgers and the Colts have made the playoffs every year with Luck and despite Lucks' turnover issues, if you had an NFL draft, Rodgers and Luck would be the top 2 picks. The Packers were able to stay great because they weren't afraid of moving on past Favre. Yes, Favre still had a few good years but Rodgers won a superbowl the year after Favre retired. Those teams would be in awful shape had they stuck with the respective players. Even if you look at the Chargers, who let Brees go in favor of Rivers and while Brees has won a superbowl and did what he did with the Saints, I don't think the Chargers would have went any other way either (different story cause Brees was coming off an injury and not at the level of Manning / Favre). The great franchises aren't afraid to make tough decisions. Have you seen how many guys the Patriots have shuttled out of New England? Packers have had plenty of guys walk in their dominant era as well. I feel like the inverse happens and it is the loser franchises that fall too in love with their players that they aren't able to make the right business decisions (because they are inconsistent and don't stick to a defined strategy). Heck, look what Sean Payton is doing in New Orleans. I think everyone would say he's an elite coach, but they completely blew things up in the off-season and I presume they'll move Brees at some point as they continue to rebuild (they decided things hit a point and it was time to rebuild). If Forte wants to play with the Bears forever, then I'm okay with that, presuming money is fair, but if he wants to be the highest paid back, well I don't think that is what a good franchise would do and we shouldn't. Forte is one of my favorite Bears and is total class. Now if we think Langford is crap, different story, but if we think we have someone on this roster who is a long-term piece, then we need to be willing to make the move to see if he is that piece. Again, unless Forte is adamant about staying with the Bears, which could be, and if he is, then he'd be okay sharing a bit more carries with Langford and taking a more developmental type role (I don't suspect that he is, but that is what I'd expect if I were to bring him back).

I think the key is the final point, what does Matt Forte want. Does he want to play on a contender or does he want to be part of a rebuild that he won't see the end of? I don't know the answer but if he wants to play for a contender then I think we should respect those wishes. I also think we need to see what we have in Langford. If you play the loyalty card all the time, Rodgers may never have been the QB of the Packers and Luck might not be the QB of the Colts. Both franchises would have stuck with Favre and Manning respectively and long-term, that would not have been the wise decision.

Yet another Emery pick bites the dust.

The true challenge is going to be how we capitalize and develop these picks. I sure as hell hope we can start hitting on more picks then we miss.

http://www.chatsports.com/chicago-bears/a/...att-forte-22695 Link to the story. Evidently it was earlier in the year and Fox (not Pace) wasn't interested. You have to wonder, if given the 0-3 start, that answer is different now?

I agree with you. We have so few building blocks that I can't possibly move Alshon. Now if a team offers us a 1st or like a 2nd and a 4th, then I think about it, but right now, worse case we franchise him and work on a longer term deal. We don't have many game changing young players so you should keep the ones you do have.

I think you can get a 3rd / 4th or maybe multiple later round picks. Forte is a pretty special player and I think if you have two contenders desperate for RB, you could get a bidding war. I really don't see any scenario where it makes sense to keep Forte (unless the Bears have some secret plan to magically rebuild in a year). Forte is near the end of his prime. That said, I think Forte's skills should keep him serviceable past 30 (he doesn't take a lot of big hits and his ability to catch passes should help him extend his effectiveness vs. a typical back). He's looked really good this year as well. I actually think my ideal scenario (if we are going full rebuild) is moving Cutler to the Texans and Forte to the Cowboys. I'd think we could add some picks. Maybe make the Cutler deal conditional so that if he plays well and they make playoffs, we get a 2nd and a future 3rd or something like that and if he doesn't, we get like a 3rd and a 5th. I don't know...just thinking aloud.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago-bears/post...-alshon-jeffery If a contender loses a QB, I think it would make sense. I still think the Texans should trade for Cutler. He is light-years better then anything they have.

Interesting: #Bears HC John Fox says Allen's departure will give OLB Willie Young chance to get on field. Young was healthy scratch at Seattle Sunday.

I love Forte, but again, I'd move him for a 3rd round pick. I'd hope one of the Colts / Cowboys got desperate and we got lucky with a 2nd rounder. Highly doubt it, but hey, never know.

But Fox evidently nixed it.

I mispoke, we have 9 picks in this upcoming draft now (the Lee pick is a 2017 picK).

Actually, at 28, I could see why the Bears opt to move Mary now. Realistically he'll be 30 by time Bears have shot at being relevant, so you might as well capitalize on potential pick for upside (if you can get something good). But boy do I love me some Marty B (however, we certainly aren't taking advantage of him this year).

Next question is who replaces these guys on the roster. I know a few guys who were once high picks were recently released (still young...just busts on existing team). I wonder if Bears take a flyer on some of those guys. Would think we'd be targeting wideouts and guys in the secondary first and foremost.

Yeah, that draft was awful. Wilson will probably get cut. He stinks. Washington is might stick another year (if he can get healthy). Was coming into his own as a core special teams guy (who has some upside).

I'd love a 2nd, but am delusional, a 3rd is interesting (depending on what he's communicated to the Bears...if he intends to leave for a contender and force a holdout, then you might as well just move him for the 3rd now). I agree with you though, anything less than that is an absolute no. And even a 3rd, I am not a fan. He's just worth more then that. We are now back up to 8 picks in the draft (I think). Acquired 2 today and had given up 1 when we got Khari Lee. I wonder if we acquire any players? Specifically are their any young wideouts that might be of interest to us who could develop. Wilson is clearly on the outs and none of our other young guys are anything to get excited about .

I agree with you. Now if someone wants to give up a 2nd round pick for him, then I'd think otherwise, but I'm not moving him for a 4th round pick. If we draft a QB, you want a TE like him around as a safety valve. I am a big Marty fan. Plus, isn't Marty signed for next season as well? I presume he'll hold out in the off-season and ask for a new contract, so maybe he's already made a big stink, but he's a guy I keep if I can (and money shouldn't be a major issue with him).

Texans evidently interested. @JaysonBraddock: There's been speculation that Martellus Bennett could be had. Local kid & skillset fits perfectly for what Texans need & only 1 healthy TE.

Good riddance. He was terrible and injury prone. I can't imagine we get anything significant for him. Wonder if it is just a conditional pick?

I think Allen handled his time with the Bears with class. I think the world of Allen and he was a heck of a player. I wish it worked better in Chicago and hope he can help the Panthers. I am glad the Bears were able to get him to a contender (evidently he gave the Bears a list of 4 teams and we were able to get things to work out in his favor).

Offensively I can't imagine many guys, unless we were going to move Forte & Bushrod and that is more because we don't see them as long-term building blocks (given combination of age and health issues). Defensively Ratliff and Young would presumably have some interest, not sure who else? Am I missing someone? I suppose another team could think Bostic has value but I have no idea why? Either way, outside of Forte, we aren't talking about anything other then 6th / 7th at best (if not conditional 6th / 7th round picks).

Dianna Marie Russini ‏@diannaESPN 15m15 minutes ago I'm told Jared Allen is 1st of a few trades Bears will make, they're looking to unload players that don't fit their scheme from prior regime

This is a good Raiders team. If Jay plays, we have a chance, without him, we will lose.

I look forward to Houston getting more reps. He excelled playing this position with the Raiders and is still young. This is a good move. Creates more opportunities for Houston and gets us back a pick while letting Allen go play for a contender late in his career.

Appears we get a comp pick. Not sure what round. Either way, i'll take it. Allen wasn't part of the long-term plan.