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Two things can be true. Caleb can be a really good rookie and end up being a stud as can Daniels. I don’t care who is better at this point - just that Caleb becomes great and I love what I have seen 6 weeks in. Daniels is a bad ass too and easy to root for. That Washington game after the bye is going to be nuts. Two stud rookie qbs.

Hopefully it ends up being less serious. Hate seeing young guy like that go down.

Im curious what he saw on that. Did the ball just hang up on him or did he just not see the safety on it. Either way he made up for it and had an outstanding game. Whole team did! Slow start - spectacular middle an end!!!

Jags can put up points though. They are going to fling it. This is a game where Jags are going to be throwing it - so Bears D has to be hitting Lawrence and creating turnovers. On flip side Bears need to mitigate the penalties and Caleb hopefully can mitigate turnovers on his side and make enough chunk plays. Bears need to continue to push the ground game, but liked how they mixed things up a lot this week. It was progress - but we had penalties cost them a first down and a touch down in the game. Might have been more - but those were 2 that stood out. Also a key drop by Moore costing them a 1st down too. So there was 1 drive we had to settle for 3 (vs. 7) and 2 drives that stalled out in good field position for punts because of offense's inability to execute. Got to build on that - cause against better teams, you can't overcome those mistakes. But the progress was huge. I think this is going to be a real tough game - Jags are clinging to hopes if they win this one they can turn some momentum on in a relatively weak division. Let's go Bears!!! Let's see more of this continued positive momentum from our Bears!!!

I hope they stick with Justin - not just for the Bears sake but for Justin's sake. Give him the season with that team and see if he can be good enough. Wilson isn't it and there is no long-term in Wilson if you are Steelers. With those 3 teams coming up - if Justin stays in, I see them going 2-1.

That was fun - 5 games in - 2 300 yard games and 3-2. Love it!!! Work to do but every week I see progress!!!

This was spot on

Which was the right decision - don't do anything in '24 that might put '25 and '26 and beyond at jeopardy. The one spot they might have done that is being cheap on the oline. Hopefully not though and they have a lot of options and ways to potentially fix it next year - both via draft and free agency (knowing that Keenan will give you flexibility). I also want to be cautious that he holds / sticks to his guns and keeps his draft picks at this year(s) deadline (unless a total stud olinemen was available). You can get good players with that Panther(s) pick and they are also cost controlled - than leverage the Keenan flexibility when he leaves so you can see what else you do there (as I presume Keenan will be one and done and than become a comp pick a year down the road).

Dallas would be who I'd look to trade him to. They need a RB big time.

That was a tough penalty - probably cost us points as we had a big 1st down conversion on that play and I think ended up punting instead post penalty.

Last week he actually came out a few days after his Monday score interview and indicated that he actually saw a lot better progress when he rewatched the tape...so was more complimentary of the Colts game later on in the week than the beginning of the week. This week I actually thought I saw the same thing - I didn't see as much growth in Caleb this week - but he also didn't make the bad throw. I'll also note, growth isn't always linear. I do disagree that he is a one read QB - he clearly is going through a number of progressions - whether he always trusts them and his feet along with it - absolutely not, but very rare for a rookie QB to be able to do that and the Bears are putting him out there with zero training wheels (hopefully that doesn't backfire - I think Caleb has the thick skin and swagger needed to deal with the increased frustrations that will come from that approach - but hopefully not using training wheels allows him to reach his potential quicker).

This feels like a "trap" game. Hopefully Bears are ready and make real progress. Would be nice to see them play their most complete game of the season on Sunday. They have been a much better team with Dalton at the helm.

On the hold's too long - I think he was top 7 through 3 games in NFL in terms of average time to throw...so he has not been holding it long. Not sure where he falls after week 4.

I actually think he wasn't as good getting the reads out on time in this game vs. the week before. But with that said - there was a sequence early in 1H where he was sacked on like back to back plays, I think both might have been holding penalties on the defense. On those plays - I wondered if he held long because of the "holding" but those were some times where it looked like he was double clutching vs. get to the back of his drop and let it fire. At same time - the TD pass and the pass to Kmet over the middle of the field were both beautiful reads as well as throws. And he used his check down's well. I think in the Colts game, 2nd half when they got rolling with tempo, I liked that there were a lot of throws where he was back of his drop and firing. Either way - I do think he is the type of QB who can handle the "Peyton Manning" treatment they are putting him throw. It is clear they are giving him the key(s) and the rope and letting him learn the complex system out of the gate vs. babying this thing along. I also think Daniels could be great or even better - none of that matters anymore as a Bears fan and Daniel(s) success or struggle(s) have no bearing on what Caleb accomplishes (or doesn't accomplish). Thus far though through 4 weeks he's looked different than any rookie QB I have seen the Bears have (and I say that in a good way - clearly a LOT to still go - but for where he is - he's definitely better than the past...and hopefully he keeps building week after week and ends up being the greatest QB of all time for the Bears (and more broadly).

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Shoot…not that it says a lot…this was 11th most passing yards in a single game in franchise history.

This was huge progress. Mistakes sure but 363 yards…most by a Bears qb in 16 years. Oh and until Dak surpassed him it was the most yards in the NFL in any one start. Caleb has work and he will make mistakes but he is learning and I’m excited. I said in this first quarter of the season I wanted a 300 yard game…box checked…next up a 3TD game.

A really bad call.

Caleb had another game with continued progress. 360+ yards in his 3rd game. Did he make mistakes…yep, but he also had a number of really good throws and with anticipation. I’ll take this loss over the week 1 win any day of the week at this point in Caleb’s career. Swift and Waldron and oline better get stuff together. At least they are using Roschon and Kmet more and ROME had some solid plays.

Lets have a fun game. I don't wish injuries to Homer but I like the idea of Homer not being in the backfield at all (he's a good ST'er but he shouldn't sniff the offensive unit unless the other 3 backs are hurt. Davis wasn't bad last season once he got going (probably was he waits for the season to get into shape which means you have to deal with 4 weeks of issues before he gets decent and even than its just decent). Was really a reminder of the pitfalls of free agency.

Inside the building they got to use this as a test, but use it internally to get better. Don’t let the 2 games define you and start finger pointing - let it galvanize you as the collective team continues to grind and fix the communication breakdowns, continue to learn and deepens knowledge of new system, coaches continue to dial in the system for what works for the personnel, etc, for Caleb to continue to learn and adjust and to continue to build his rapport with his wide outs and tight ends….for the defense to keep getting sharper. Got to keep the head down and grind…look at KC last year…they struggled but they kept working and working and were a different team by the end of the year. As you said - Houston did the same.

This is the one do-over I would have. I go back to - ownership is willing to invest huge money in a new stadium. I'm indifferent on Eberflus...good guy, quality coach, I don't think he is a difference maker as a head coach though (I hope I'm wrong). He is steady though and I do think there is some value in that sort of head coach. But Harbaugh was out there for the taking - you had the #1 overall pick - if there was ever a time to go get a total gamechanging head coach like Harbaugh this was the time. Only other time I felt this convicted is when Andy Reid was a free agent coach.

I agree and I think any talk of going 5-1 on the next stretch is just that. Could it happen, sure, they could also go 1-5, given pains with a rookie QB. With that said - my hope is we go .500 in that stretch and see week after week growth and maturity from Caleb and the team. Want to see him better handle the blitzes and make growth there, see him continue to make growth on taking the check down where appropriate, but also need to start seeing him make some of the big plays down the field (seeing him be calmer on the field which will lead to things slowing down and his natural accuracy to take over). I also expect we'll see improvements in the chemistry of his wideouts and improvements with how the oline handles things. A lot of this is on the players - but it is also on the coaches to at this point start simplifying and dialing things in so we can get good at a few things and than slowly branch it back out over 2nd half of the season as our QB matures, etc. I do believe our OC is asking Caleb to do more on the field than a typical rookie and has done less to protect him. I think that is a sign of how highly they think of him, but it still can be a that was still a bit too much to handle so lets dial it back a bit. Its a careful delicacy to make sure you give him the confidence and protect him while also challenging him cause he clearly wants to be challenged and put a ton on himself. I may be wrong - but I thought I saw a lot more at the huddle adjustments from him than I have seen any previous rookie on the Bears. Not saying he is Peyton Manning or Brady at the line - but they seem to have been taking a "no training" wheels approach where as Daniels has had more structured run and roll-out plays designed to simplify the reads and concepts. Haven't watched Nix enough to see what Payton is doing there.

I liked the other 3 recievers more from a pure athleticism standpoint. Rome's character is really good and I expect he'll be a good player but for whatever reason had the worry that he lacks that elite quickness or elite skillset that can be a game wrecker at the NFL level. I was in camp of move up to get one of the tackles but was also fine going wideout (and was definitely good with moving down if their were takers).

One thing to remember about the pressure rate - is it wasn't that he was pressured on 38 of 39 plays, I believe the pressure count is just the # of pressures - so on many plays it was 2 or 3 pressures on the same play (so 3 pressures on 1 drop back). I think for the game he had 23 drop backs where he was pressured...which was still a very alarming rate, but given how much they blitzed not a surprise. If you blitz you expect pressure...now it is up to the offense, oline, QB, backs, etc to pick up the hot read and make the defense pay. No shock the rookie QB didn't do that - and this was his real first test of it (road environment, crazy loud stadium)...so it got magnified. But on the no-pressure, he looked a heck of a lot better than the week before...albeit later in the game after he started getting hit you could see even in the no pressure he wasn't finishing his throws...which led to some misses down the field. But all of these are opportunities...opportunities to grow and develop so hopefully Caleb, Moore and Rome can work this week on some of those issues to clean them up. Hopefully line can work on some of their presnap issues and clean that up - cause a lot of this seemed like communication (not all). From QB to wideouts being off synch...oline being off synch on protections and snap counts...not necessarily crappy players..albeit on the oline that may be playing into it. And on the QB side - learning to beat the blitz is one of the first real challenges I believe any rookie QB is going to go through. But hopefully Caleb takes this as yet another opportunity to develop and grow. If he does - I really think we'll be having a very different, and more positive conversation about Caleb 3 weeks from now as he enters the 2nd quarter of the season.