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Angelo's only chance is getting behind the idea of a new coach. If he says Lovie needs to stay than I think he'll be gone. He might be gone either way, but the writing is on the wall and to me, Lovie will be gone. You don't get blown-out as much as the Bears have and keep a coach. Absolutely, no way, no how. This team has quit and I expect far more comments ripping the coaching staff to come from players in the up-coming week. The worse thing that could happen to the Bears is for them to fluke out a couple wins late in the season as those wins might save Lovie his job. I'd put Lovie's chances of staying at around 25% and Jerry's at 50%.

He also has a very good track-record of success and is a well respected assistant coach in the league. I'd think he'd be a great candidate.

RIP

Excellent news. Pace will be cut in the off-season.

Wow, way to go Devin. Speaking the obvious and it sounds like or at least I hope, that there are a lot of people that will be packing there bags over this disastrous season.

I reailze they couldn't judge talent. But Angelo/Smith had nothing to do with most of the guys you mentioned? And I'd disagree with you on Orton. He isn't any better of a QB in Denver (With more weapons) than he was last year in Chicago. He's a mediocre QB whom the Bears actually got quite a bit out of given his draft status.

I tend to agree that we shouldn't give anyone full control, but I also don't think Angelo will get fired. Jerry will get to bring in his guy and my guess is it might be Gruden who I think would accept a job without being the GM. Cowher might as well. Shanny is less likely to accept that sort of role.

Good article on DA http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...6.column?page=2

It has been terrible, but I think a problem is we have zero WR that has earned much respect so because of it, we rarely get the not as blatant PI's. But I can think of a few times where Jay's been picked or we've missed a nice play because of what I'd consider PI.

Good stats games, yes, but they both ran some poor routes that led to costly interceptions/missed opportunities. Still, I loved what I saw out of DA and we better see a lot more of him. Jays' been lobbying for him, he had a nice preseason, and it takes this long to see him. Another display of how poor our coaches judge talent.

I saw that list and got pretty disgusted. We are paying a lot of guys a lot of money to not produce. Harris, Urlacher, Vasher, Omilaye, Pace, Kreutz, and Hester are not performing up to there contracts. Urlacher was hurt so I'll give him that.

One we can only hope is true cause it means we'd have a new staff.

And he should keep starting. He was much better than any of our WR's in one game.

The way he cost us two timeouts late in the 4th quarter of a game is one of the biggest coaching blunders I've seen. It was completely inexcuseable and yet another time where he has mismanaged a game.

Cutler has done a lot, but don't let the numbers fool you. Our WR's have not played very well this year.

His mechanics are the same. He's never had precise mechanics but he's so accurate anyway. Throwing off his back foot gets him into trouble, but he's one of the few QBs in the NFL that more often than not can still make something happen when he does it. Much like Favre.

That is because Jay has and will take responsibility. The guy hasn't thrown other guys under the bus even though other guys have made mistakes. I think he realizes how little experience he has and just has to deal with it and hope that the guys turn into something a year or two from now. Knox made the wrong read and while Jay shouldn't have thrown the ball, you don't run a deep ball on a play where the corner is going to hit your QB. You adjust off the route and come back on the ball which it looks like Jay was expecting. We'll never know for sure though.

But when you look at the reality of the matter. He's had WR's running wrong routes all the time. No offensive line and one of the worse rushing attacks in the NFL. Basically put, he's had no chance to succeed and I dont know how we've even won the number of games we have won. Yes it is frustrating to point out his multi-pick games, but even than, most of the picks were due to other factors. He's had a few bad games, but so will every QB. The guy is getting so much shit and its such bullshit.

Thank you. And there has been a shitload of times this has happened. Just watch Jay on the field, he's cosntantly talking to his WR's and trying to explain them what they should be doing. Than you watch the replay and see that yep, Jay is right, the WR broke the wrong way and while to the untrained eye it easily looks like a terrible pass to no one, it really is the WR going the wrong way. This has happened more on this team than I've ever seen in the NFL and it shoudln't come as a shock. 2 of the top 3 Wr's on this team had zero receptions entering the season (Bennett/Knox). And the other WR has about 2.5 years of experience at the position. Basically put, we have three guys who don't know the nuances of the NFL game at the receiver position and while they can learn, they are so raw that it just kills our offense more often than it helps. I like the potential of Knox and love the strides he's made, think Devin has been pretty solid when you take into account his experience and that Bennett has the best hands but has trouble getting open. But add in all the blunders they've had and you are talking about a horrendous overall receiving corps as of now. DA looked pretty good. Great body control, good hands, nice size. Give him more experience, move Hester who will never be a #1 and is more likely going to be a #3 or a solid #2, and sign a big-time WR.

The two time-outs in one play was just another thing on the long list of reasons why Lovie needs to go.

Right now this team has zero #2 Wr's and zero #1 Wr's. Knox and DA could develop into #2's, but it is way too early on to comment on DA since he has played significant minutes in all of one game (and looked pretty good). But the Bears are completely inexperienced at the WR position and probably 15 of Jay's picks have been a result of that. WR's running the wrong routes is constantly going on and while most fans seem to blame Jay for the throws (and he's had some bad picks) in this case, more than any, he's been pointing and trying to teach his WR's on the fly how to make a right read and the appropriate break. We saw more of it in this Sunday's game and it is very frustrating to watch as a fan who understands a lot of the hidden nuances that go into being a WR. Knox is developing on the fly and learning to make better reads, but he still had another few today where he just made the wrong route and it cost the Bears. Bottom line this Bears WR corps is atrocious and it has really hindered the team. I will even go as far as bunching Olsen into this group. He's as over-rated as it gets by Bear fans. Yes he is fast for a TE, but he isn't a great route-runner, is a horrendous blocker, and by and large has mediocre hands.

I don't buy this talk that him being a full-time receiver has impacted his return abilities. Yes, Devin hasn't been a special return man since he started as a full-time receiver, but I'd also like to point out that very rarely do guys last a long time as a sucessful return man. Teams make adjustments and get better at defending guys. And for people that say you can't be a quality return man and receiver, just look at Desean Jackson in Philly. He's pretty damn good at both. Bottom line, Devin is overpaid and is not a great WR. If I were the Bears I'd trade him for a 2nd round pick if we could. Could he be a valuable 2nd or 3rd WR, absolutely, but given the Bears needs I'd move Hester in a heart-beat and I don't think he's stunk it up on special teams because of the fact that he's playing wide-out.

I'd definitely be fine with that. Either way, Bates was calling the plays so I'd say he's qualified for the gig.

I was for the trade than and I'd be for it now. He isn't a special player. And given our needs if someone else paid the price of a special player than we'd be stupid not to accept such offer.

Agree with you.