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I think in the coaches eyes its Kyles job to lose and I think Rex will end up with the job. I wouldnt be surprised to see both of them start 8 games next year.
I believe right now Orton probably is a 55/45 favorite on Rex. However, I think Rex knows the offense better and more importantly can make all the throws. Rex has a quicker release, stronger arm, and is more accurate. The only key is whether Rex is truly comfortable and willing to step up and be more agressive in the pocket (ie, be more willing to take off and truly forget about his leg injury).
He showed a buttload of improvement late last season (prior to getting hurt against the Redskins) and I would really like to see him continue with that development. He really has the ability, a great attitude, and man would I love to see him fight through all his adversity and suceed.
Kyle on the other hand showed a pretty good ability to take a hit and stick in and make a play. He also showed good accuracy at times and better arm strenght than I expected. He sees the field very well (better than Rex) but at the same time can't make all the throws, but if he can improve on his down field accuracy he could very well be a better QB (in the sense that with his height he can make plays to the strenght of our offense easier than Rex...ie the middle of the field where our TE's and Booker will be).
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I was just following the precedence.
We all know there are no hard rules for deletion/modification/locking threads. We also know that mistakes are made, in judgement and in mouse-control. HOWEVER, we also know that there needs to be action when problems arise, and there needs to be admins. Otherwise you end up with the ESPN boards, which suck.
With that said, I will speak out for anyone who feels wronged. Since I was clearly the target of the previous attack on the old board, I feel it is my duty as someone who has learned from the mistake, to campaign on the side of the wronged party and ensure that their issue is given attention. You gave it speedy attention, and I appreciate it.
I completely respect that. I still say (and I said it at the time of the action on the old board, albeit far too late since I'm not always around) that issues should first be discussed privately and if at that point the person has a problem and feels the rule is unjust than they can discuss it with the peers (and if the membership agrees, I have no problem admitting a mistake). By all means, I don't know all when it comes to running something and I could very well make a mistake, but I think it is better to let someone discuss the mistake one on one with someone, than let it turn into a public berating or anything along those lines.
Again, just my 2 cents on the issue.
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First off, I was in favor of Justin Fargas, but he signed a 3 or 4 year deal for 12 million with Oakland a couple of weeks before FA started.
I'm skeptical about Alexander, and it would depend on how much money he wants. He looked flat-out awful last season. That being said, I'd be thrilled if we dumped Benson after he gets healthy, signed Alexander, and give Wolfe more of an opportunity. There's all this talk about drafting a RB, but we've done it twice in the last 3 years with no luck.
You have to remember that one of the RB's we drafted, Wolfe, has absolutely no chance to be a starter in the NFL. His only option is to excel as a special teams player and as an ocassional change of pace back (both as a RB and a receiver). The problem is the Bears don't really have the luxury of such a player (given they have Hester/Manning/Rashied Davis, who are all return men). The Bears need to draft a legitimate, potential starter/pro bowl type running back and let that guy push Benson. I'm not implying using the first round pick either (although I would have no problem with Mendenhall at 14, but I prefer oline) rather the 2nd or 3rd round pick.
One of Felix Jones/Jonathan Stewart could very well be there at 2 and that is a 1st rnd quality back who can really come in and push Benson. If Benson turns things on, awesome, you have two good backs, neither of which have a bad contract and you stick with it (its been shown that it really is an asset to have two good backs, since injuries happen).
I just don't see how Wolfe fits in. Peterson is a better backup (better as a RB, better as a WR, better as a blocker). He's not as quick as Wolfe though, but it is ridiculous to carry 4 RB's, unless Wolfe is contributing on special teams (we know Peterson is a big time contributor there and with the Bears losing some key ST guys, drafting another RB which pushes and makes the rushing game better, plus allows Peterson to go back to ST's and absorbing some of our key losses there is a good thing, imo).
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As an admin, it is possible to lock a thread when your clicking through other posts (if you double click on the post icon as an admin/mod the thread will be locked).
The thread was locked on accident. No one meant to lock it. However, in the future, before creating a stir on the forums, please send the admins/mods a PM (as that is the appropriate way to handle such a situation). I am removing the other thread (the goodbye one).
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Do we know how much we gave him yet?
I thought I saw like 1M.
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Production wise, there weren't many teams out there with a worse backfield than the one the Bears had. Adrian Peterson is a 3rd string back, could be a 2nd string back if you have a pretty good 1st stringer. Benson proved to be terrible.
Now the Bears line deserves some of the blame, Ron Turner's play calling deserves a chunk of the blame as well, but so does Benson who didn't seem to hit the hole or play with the urgency that he did during the super bowl season (where he looked extremely good down the stretch).
He seemed to have an explosion and never go down when the first guy hit him.
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I'd go with the Patrtiots front office/coaching staff coming here. I am one of Angelo's biggest fans and for the most part i like Lovie (I question some of his moves, but I think he's a great man and a good coach). However, there is no denying how great of an organization the Patriots have (cheating be damned) and while one player could help you win for a few years, that front office/coaching combo could help you win for a lot longer.
If we are talking players, I'd go Tom Brady.
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On one hand, I think Alexander could be pretty effective after he has the off-season to get healthy and if you were able to get him to agree to playing with limited carries. Ie, give him the ball about 15 times a game and have another back, who compliments him well, get the ball about 12-15 times a game.
I also think having Alexander around could give Benson a serious kick in the butt. The only true issue is that I don't think the style of Alexander/Benson is all too different which would mean he wouldn't be the type of back that would compliment Cedric.
I think a good fit if the Bears didn't want to go RB in the draft would be Justin Fargas. He has shown this past season that he is a pretty effective player. He's also got a lot of quickness and would be the perfect combo back. For all I know the Raiders have already resigned him. Of course I find it hard to pass up on some of the guys available in this years draft.
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Don't sleep on Corey Graham hes a special teams beast. Dave Toub has got to be the best special teams coach in NFL History.
By all means, I think Graham showed that he could even be a quality nickel corner as soon as this upcoming season. I liked what I saw out of him in limited action, especially for someone taken as late as he was in the draft.
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It shows the sad state of the Bengals. To have a player strike the head-coach, only to cover it up and say it never happened. No wonder their locker room is a mess. As a player, I would never respect that coach again. I think Brown is the owner/GM there. Kinda reminds me of the Mikey days. The Bengals will be losers until the team develops a chain or command. As of now, the inmates run the asylum.
There has to be more to it if they are keeping it quiet. Ie, Johnson must not have been the only one involved or something. And if there wasn't, my god what a mess the Bengals are. It makes me feel even worse for any sane player that is there and has to put up with that crap for a course of a season.
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Ruben Brown is currently a FA so there is no guarantee he will be back. In fact I haven't heard anything really at all come from Halas Hall indicating they even have interest in Brown. Personally I think you could do far worse things than sign Brown while you draft a guard who can spend a season developing under Brown.
The price will be more than fair for Brown too.
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I would never, ever, ever take a guy in the top 7 picks (maybe even top 10). The amount of money those players get, without proving anything is amazing. You have to hit big time for the pick to truly be beneficial (given how financially it severely cripples your franchise). This is especially the case because if you are picking top 10, it is likely you will be there for at least a year or two (even a well ran franchise takes a bit of time from going that bad to so good quickly) and that means you have 3 guys getting a lot of money and you better have hit well on all of them.
Once you drop past that, the money drops significantly and you still have good talent there. Plenty of game breaking players have came in the middle of the first round, plus you are able to make two picks and still have plenty of money left over than you would if you had a top 5 pick.
I'm sure fans would call me cheap but if I ever ran a franchise that is exactly what I would do every year I was in that spot. I probably would have traded Peyton Manning though and people would have called me an idiot, but for every Peyton there are a crapload more non-peytons that can set your franchise back years.
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So basically you're saying we're REALLY not that far away from getting back to the Super Bowl.
IMO this team is and should be CONSTANTLY trying to build for the future, while at the same time trying to win now. By resigning our top guys (minus Berrian who is overrated) and having a strong draft every year, there's no reason why we can't be contenders year in and year out.
Exactly. That is also because I feel our defense will rebound greatly, plus I have faith in Angelo putting together a strong draft and making the right decisions in terms of who to sign, who to let go internally (because at times you are going to have to let a guy walk to give another player an opportunity for fiscal reasons).
There will be a lot of pressure on this years draft though. Angelo can't have first day picks like Wolfe/Bazunin who don't end up really having much of an impact early on (Wolfe pick I still think is one of the worse picks I've seen the Bears make in some time).
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I assume you mean Brandon Riddeau? He is still on the Bears roster:
http://www.chicagobears.com/team/Roster.html
We brought signed him for the last two games of the season. At the time, Zac Zaidman on the SCORE predicted that Riddeau we be on the active roster for the Bears final game ahead of Mike Hass. Mainly because Riddeau has better special team's skills. However, both guys remained inactive for the last game of the season.
If Riddeau couldn't beat out Hass last training camp, why would be be able to this year?
It appears we're going to let Rashied Davis go, yet we'll likely draft a WR fairly early. The Bears can carry six WR, but we really don't need to. (In 2006 we only carried 5.)
Ya, Riddeau. He's on the active roster but won't be when the season starts next year (barring injuries or him having a ridiculous pre-season).
I have been assuming Davis will be let go, but I saw where the Bears will match any offer assuming it isn't excessive due to his special teams play. Personally I could care less in regards to Davis because I think Lloyd/McCarens are both upgrades to Davis.
I believe Booker is a slight upgrade to Moose (but I could see someone saying the opposite as well). The key is finding someone to do what Berrian did, which I think there are guys on the roster with the talent to do such (Bradley/Hester, but neither are guarantees) plus a day one draft pick.
However, the Bears do have Olsen with one full season and Clark to help make up for the loss of Berrian. Bottom line, I think the Bears WR position is in a better place than people say it is. That doesn't mean it is great, by all means it isn't, but I think it is still solid.
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At one point I thought Arch was worthy of being here. Do not fully understand what the hell happened to him in DC however, it appears that what he had in St. Louis is now long gone. Personally if we are able to let him go without to much of a hit against the cap, it may be time to let him go. I kind of wish that we would have made a play at Asante Samuel as that would have improved our DBs a lot. Oh well, we'll just have to keep praying to the Football Gods that JA does something right along the way.
The Bears are very well set at the CB position, so going after Asante Samuel would have been fiscally irrisponsible. I'm not doubting that he isn't better than the CB's we have, but Vasher and Tillman are both above average corners who are signed to long term deals (I think Tillman is vastly under-rated around the NFL and thought he was stellar for the most part last season, while fighting through injuries). In addition to that you have Ricky Manning Jr., who was dissapointing last year and proved he is nothing more than a nickel back (he'll also be gone after this season) and Trumaine McBride (who I think is going to be a great nickel back and has the ability to be a solid to above average starting CB in time). That gives me 4 corners that I am comfortable with.
At the safety position you obviously don't know what to expect from Brown and I'm expecting nothing and than you have Payne (who got hurt early last year), Manning (I think he's going to have a great season, I just hope the Bears give him a god damn position and let him stick there), and not much else, imo. I'm guessing we will see a veteran safety released sometime in the next few months and the Bears will pick one up.
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John Clayton reported yesterday that Alexander will be cut, probably note till after June 1st but he believes the Seahawks will inform of the decision very soon.
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I would take Booker over Clark. Clark may be the only receiver on the team slower than Booker. Booker has better hands and runs better routes. Clark is a better blocker, but in terms of skill player, I would agree w/ Booker over Clark.
I agree that Booker replaces Moose, but agree too w/ the idea he is our #1 WR. Two years ago, Moose was unquestionably our #1 WR. This past year, we tried to make Berrian our #1. I think we go back to a situation where Booker, like Moose, is our #1 WR. He runs the intermediate routes a QB can rely on. Its a nice thought for your deep threat to be your #1, but w/o an OL that can sustain their blocks, your #1 really needs to be your possession guy.
Though I think we are building, and though I really want OL in the first, I would not totally rule out RB. If you consider this as a two year building project, you are more able to simply take the best offensive talent available. If there is a run on OTs (which I fear happens) and you have a RB graded out well ahead of the next OL, WR or QB, I think it makes more sense to grab that RB. When building, you take the studs that fall to you. I can understand drafting for need better when you are trying to fill one of your few holes, but when your hole is your whole offense, you simply take the best available.
I think our WR core goes back to what the core was the superbowl season. Ie, we had Moose who was considered a #1 by us, but wouldnt' be a number one on many teams and than a core of young players, a couple of which had some ability but none being high picks or anything along those lines (Bradley being the highest pick).
This season, we again will have a guy as our #1 who truly isn't a #1 (Booker). There is a veteran backup (Lloyd) and two young guys with talent (currently) and probably 3 when it is all said and done (draft) in Hester/Bradley/Draft Pick. At that point you'll hope one sticks and if two do than you can eventually slide Booker into a #3 role where he excels. If they don't, you figure one of Hester/Bradley/draft pick pan out and in 09 you have at least one spot filled and only need to find either a 1 or 2 to join the other young guys that didn't develop as pleased and Booker.
The only difference is, the TE position is much stronger now than it was and that could really help the Bears buy time in terms of figuring out the WR core. I really think this is one of those positions that scares the hell out of all of us early on and eventually we grow calm and find out we have something (or it turns into a complete disaster, LOL).
Either way, for that to even happen the team will need oline play like the super bowl season and a rushing game similar to that as well.
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What ever happened to Justin Rideau? I thought he was signed to like a one year contract towards the end of the season but never played?
He'll probably get another opportunity during training camp/preseason and than catch onto the practice squad or sign elsewhere. Given the fact that Lloyd/Booker/Bradley/Hester all appear to have spots (Lloyd obviously could stink and get cut and anyone can get hurt) plus a draft pick and maybe even McCarens the odds are stacked against Hass/Riddeau and anyone else).
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I am going to leave the Hass aspect alone, as I know your position, but as far as Bradley goes, he has had opportunities, but has not stepped up.
Hey, I am not going to argue his talent. I would even agree that, in pure talent, he has it over Booker. But it take more than talent in the NFL. The thing I think everyone has to remember w/ Bradley is, he was far from developed in college. He was not even a starter, and FAR from polished. That is not the end of the world, but since coming to Chicago, he has dealt w/ injuries and other things, which has limited his development time further. So he is still relatively raw.
Does he have talent? Sure. But on the other hand, is he going to be ready to step into a starters role? I doubt that. My hope is he can be productive this year, while at the same time, taking steps in his development, but I simply do not see him being polished enough to be a starter and beating Booker. W/ our OL still unsettled, as well as QB and RB, I simply think we need Booker starting to give some semblance of experience on the field. We need a guy who is open and catches the ball. That will be Booker. While others have more talent, Booker is the one guy polished enough for our QB to count on.
Unless BOoker is injured he is one of the starters. He has shown enough over the years that he is good enough to be a #2. He has very good hands, knows how to run routes, and has put up Moose like numbers his past couple seasons while being a 2nd/3rd option as opposed to a top option (all while dealing with quite possibly the worse QB play in the NFL).
I am completely confident in Booker having a 50-60 catch, 500-700 yd season assuming the Bears have decent QB play, a quality oline, and a decent running game. I also expect him to make tons of 3rd down catches. I think you'll see Lloyd/McCarens compete for a job as either the #3 or #1 type WR with Bradley/Berrian grabbing the other spot (and obviously the other player still getting substantial time). You really can use 4 WR's in this sort of system with one internchanging with another given the various skill-sets.
Bottom line I think you'll see Bradley/Hester get a lot of time (Bradley if he's healthy) and Booker be on the field almost always. You will than see Lloyd/McCarens battle for a spot with the other being a #5 type of guy who may end up getting cut in training camp (especially if the Bears draft a WR early).
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A couple key differences.
Moose was very expensive. McCareins will not be.
Moose was old as dirt. McCareins is not young, but on the right side of 30.
Moose is slow, very slow. I don't think McCareins is a speed burner, but does bring more big play potential.
McCareins may not be great, but IMHO, he would be a great pickup. The staff obviously wants to develop Bradley and Hester. If we add another more expensive veteran, that would more greatly cut into the PT of the two young WRs. Adding a pair of veterans in the mold of Booker and McCareins helps our passing game, while at the same time, are not close to being big money or big ego enough that they will not hinder the development of our young guys.
I like this. Think of how many teams have had WR's like this who excel or look solid in one place and than struggle in a certain system and than head somewhere else and find things.
You have to remember, once you struggle for a new team you can get burried pretty quickly and have trouble coming out. That could be what happened to Justin and Lloyd, who both got burried on the depth charts and at that point had little chance to dig themselves out.
In a new system with a new staff they will have a new opportunity to prove themselves and both of these guys are still on the right side of 30 and have the ability to be good NFL WR's and I'd like the Bears to get as many of those type of guys as possible and hope that a couple stick (as well as Hester/Bradley who are the only in house guys we have with any ability, imo; Haas has great hands, but don't consider me in the Haas camp).
Plus financially speaking this is smart and should allow the Bears to be in position to trade for a superstar WR if one became available (and give them a contract) as well as work with Urlacher/Harris on extensions (and have room to sign one of Orton/Rex to a big deal if either of them prove themselves this year).
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It sounds like exactly what, me and a number of other have been thinking...
It's a competition for the wolrd to think, and in reality it's Rex yet again. Oh joy.
You have to remember that all reports from people close to the Bears indicate that if anyone was the favorite it was Kyle Orton. That said, I'm guessing the outside people still consider Rex the guy given that he has won/earned the job (well if people consider it that, cause his draft status obviously helped him with that) whenever he's been healthy in the past.
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If I was Lloyd I would be hoping Rex was my guy. Lloyd is a sideline WR. He isn't known as a guy who takes the beating over the middle making catches. Rex is the guy with the ARM capable of making the throws which will allow Lloyd to flourish (ie sideline outs/deep balls, etc).
Orton on the other hand is the type of QB who needs to use the middle of the field a lot to succeed. Either way I'm perfectly comfortable with the QB position. I'd like the Bears to make an all out push at Larry FItzgerald if he hits the market (because I think a true #1 like that can help any QB and make every other WR on the field better).
Aside from that, strengthen the oline/WR core/RB (my 2 biggest desires are a FA guard and a 1st or 2nd rd tackle that suceeds and one of Stewart/Jones/Mendenhall).
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The Bears have indicated they will bring him back. He isn't due to make much money and they believe he can be a very quality special teams player. I didn't see any indication where they plan on starting him at the safety position though.
Thats not to say he won't get an opportunity during training camp to show the Bears that he can do it, but right now I think they are looking at him solely as a backup/special teams guy and I think he can be pretty valuable in that roll (especially given that his contract isn't hurting anyone).
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That was a good value signing. I think the writing is one the wall for the Bears drafting a RB in the first couple rounds. This is a draft that in the 3rd rd, it is probable that you draft a mid to early 2nd round grade type of guy and in the 2nd round you could be drafting a top 20 grade guy (given the extreme depth at the RB position this year).
They have indicated all off-season, including poor play and injury/attitude issues with Benson that they are not happy with the RB spot. Obviously the RB game will get better if you address the oline, but you also have to consider addressing the RB position (you gave a player a chance and he failed, now you need to bring in another possible option). If Felix Jones/Jonathan Stewart are around close to where the Bears pick in Rd 2, than they need to do what they can to make a play for them.
The other option of course would be to bring in a veteran to push Benson, with the idea that you put your faith in the veteran and Benson being good enough in a worse case scenario and in a best case scenario the vet pushes Benson into being the player everyone thought he could be. If Benson doesn't succeed, you move on at the end of the season and either use your cap room on a starter or use your 1st rd pick.
That vet would be Shaun Alexander, who will be released by the Seahawks. He isn't as effective, but if you gave him limited carries (10-15 a game) with Benson getting carries it could be effective enough to work and allow the Bears to focus on WR/Oline/QB with the first 4 picks in the draft.
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Brennan reminds me a bit of Drew Brees. I think in the right system, with patience, he could turn into an awesome west coast type of QB. I think he can make quick, accurate throws and make a lot of plays with his feet (not necessarily running for 1st downs, but running around to buy time and make plays).