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Did Armstead sign?
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Bears Sign Bengals DT Larry Ogunjobi (40M over 3 years)
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This one surprised me. At first glance, less about the player, I don't love the allocation of resources here but they do have cap space so will see what the rest looks like. And to a point you made, this was a position they were going to need to handle in the draft, so creates extra flexibility from that standpoint. I was curious how Bears would react with some of the rush of FA olineman resigning with their team right before free agency opened. -
There is our 3T, had 7 sacks,16 QB Hits, and 12 TFLs for the Bengals last year.
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For those that thought we didn't get enough. Bears actually got more for Mack than Miller (and Bears got way more cap relief too). Pick 48 = 420 points. The 6th round pick will be between 5 and 18 points. Broncos got pick 64 and 96. 64 = 270 points 96 = 116 points 2022 NFL Trade Value Chart
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I think it was a good move for them. The price was fair and it was a good use of their cap space. This is one of those win/win moves in my opinion.
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That is why I like this deal so much. It signals Bears are not looking for a quick fix, and they are willing to go through some short-term pain for long-term gain. That said - it isn't even that bad of short-term pain. They are getting a 2nd round pick + immediate cap space (6-7M) and they are freeing up playing time for an ascending player like Gipson to show if he can take those steps or not. Gipson will never be Mack, but he could be a pretty solid player and now we will get to see that. In the meantime - they can get a wideout or DB or olineman with that pick and can also use the cap space from Mack to go get a center or something else in free agency....and than they have $30M next year to spend on whatever holes they have too (or ideally to give some young players extensions). And in a year - man $120M in cap space...crazy....
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Yep - Quinn has to follow and I like it. Mack trade created more cap space this year (6-7M) but next year $30M in extra and next year they now have $121M in cap space. I was hoping they could get more - but given the cap flexibility plus picks they get, this is nice. Quinn I hope gets something similar (his cap is more friendly for an acquiring team).
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I don’t know that either team does it though. Cam could get tagged twice - but that rarely happens and Chiefs have cap challenges and may not be able to give Brown the money/tag. We shall see.
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I think they will get one of the FA LT's.
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I am simple. There are some great tackles available and I want one fa wideout and one he drafted wide out. Fill the rest however they want based upon available talent and second/third wave of free agency.
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Thank goodness it is Friday - I need something to balance that stink of OC's you just wrote about Adam. I will say - proof is in the puddy - but there was something extremely refreshing from Getsy's press conference and the snippets of quotes.
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There is zero chance I am giving Monty $12M a year. I don't know that I would give him half of that. That said - I don't think Monty is getting that. He is a good, but not great running back who doesn't have that elite game-breaking skillset that gets paid. I would suspect the market would value him similarly and he wouldn't get a big contract, which than means, if you are paying $5/$6M, that is probably okay when you have a rookie QB and have other needs to fill with draft picks, etc. But no - I am not giving Monty big money and I like Monty, he is perfectly good. If new regime likes Herbert (and i liked enough of what I saw from him) and someone else was willing to give up a 3rd rounder for Monty - I am on board with that cause we need capital. But I'm wrong guy cause I would be blowing up our roster on defensive side looking to claw back as many picks as possible while taking cap pain now to create massive flexibility. I also probably would be dealing back with those picks (including getting some future picks) so you really start to build a real stockpile of assets that has you consistently operating from a full cupboard vs. a barren one. I felt like Pace was always borrowing forward vs. building up a reserve that really gives you flexibility.
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Ideally Bears get one of those wideouts plus an olave. I am tired of hoping some crappy person jumps out and want to get more talent. I kind of like idea of Kirk/Shark/Sutton plus draft pick. Schuster and Beckham interest me at right price too.
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Yep - Pep was a QB coach in Chicago with Lovie. Seems like it will end up being Lovie.
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My confidence is lower on Rod. Bears got completely pants and ended up hiring a poor ST coach. They had 3 options, including Tabor, who were all top 10 ST coaches and they end up with a guy whose units have been mediocre to bad the past 5 years…including that #25 ranking this past year with Niners. And one of big reasons they missed on their #1 was Packers through more money his way. I can’t imagine it was big bucks given we are talking about special teams and there are no salary cap expectations.
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I am assuming it will eventually be Marinelli.
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This - the giants were injured. He has consistently developed wideouts before last year - including with the Giants and with the Broncos. He's a really really good get.
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This is a good hire - Cousins had his best season last year (arguably) and he is relatively experienced. Plus ties to Getsy - which is important. Consistent offensive philosophies can be key to unlocking a harmonized unit and I do think fact that he has coached both wideouts and QB's is helpful because there are important nuances to both that likely help in QB development. I also like fact that Getsy has a couple more experienced guys to go with fact this is his first time as OC in the NFL. Caldwell still would have been my #1 but obviously very unrealistic.
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The new WR and pass game coordinator coach seems like an excellent hire. https://mobile.twitter.com/MaxMarkhamNFL?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1489002453248790530|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicitysports.com%2Fforum%2Fthreads%2Fofficial-poles-front-office-moves-staff-rumors-and-signings.87578%2Fpage-93
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I felt like Poles hinted at fact they are going to trade some veterans during some of his road show. I suspect we get some day 2 / day 3 picks, whether it is dangling Mack/Quinn (or dealing Eddie Jackson - not saying you get a day 2 for him). What I am really curious on is the new front office willing to bite the bullet and kind of "write-off" part of the year but accelerate future years by accelerating some of the cap problems into this year (means minimal FA - but totally opens up future years an maybe you can add some additional draft capital).
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Good point - he was there - but was not at all part of the press conference (nor was he referenced). It really seems like at some point - George decided this was his hire and went out and got his guy (Poles). I thought the below was kind of a good synopsis of maybe Geroge's eventual transformation (or at the very least - some color on the process that seemed unique relative to what I've seen in the more mainstream media). https://dabearsblog.com/2022/the-george-mccas
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It was just a press conference so everything I say is a baseless overreaction - but as I just finished I echo what you said az. As a whole I was thoroughly impressed. On poles - while the moment was a little bit for him and you could see he had nerves…once you hear him talk football, his vision, how he wants to modernize the org and instill a culture of curiosity where his people will challenge the status quo and push him and the org forward is nice. I also love fact that he was pretty clear - you want a good offense - you need a line and playmakers. It seems obvious but Bears have really never got that right (and probably part of why they have never really got QB right). One bit that came across to me was the evaluation and valuation. Felt like a Belicheck quote but kind of went in to me that he is going to maximize value - that might mean moving guys early etc but he gets that you need talent but also at right valuation. Also hinted in later media circuit a focus on building through draft and hinted at org finding ways to increase its stockpile of picks (great sign and maybe indicator that he plans to make some big trades…ie mack or Quinn). In general just like fact we got someone who is hungry and ready to challenge himself and surround himself with great people. On Flus - love him. Dude just seems like someone ready for this moment. Loved his answers for how he could help Fields and love the approach he is taking to be the HC. I also liked how pragmatic he will be around setting the tone and expectations around no penalties, hustle, little things etc. While not an offensive mind - I see why they hired him when he talked about his vision for the offense and how he can help and what he found important. I think he has some John Harbaugh / Tomlin in him for that CEO role. Note: Ted Phillips name was not mentioned nor was he there today. Huge item which I really haven’t seen mentioned anywhere (unless I missed it and he was there).
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Interesting that Fields has his own segment at the press conference. Shows that they believe in him and setting the right stage. And glad that Justin is there meeting the coaches and getting ready for next year.
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It looks like Reich couldn't promote from within or didn't want to - but it seems like the main candidates to do so went with Eberflus. At that point - it seems like Reich made the decision he wants to bring in his own DC (technically Flu's was inherited from the McDaniels fiasco) and let his DC have the flexibility to get his staff. I wonder if Bowles makes his way to Indy (would be a pretty natural fit). Seperately - might Matt Nagy find some form of a "consultant" role on the Colts.
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I would be good with that. Ideally get something like a 2nd & 4th this year and a 2nd next year but I would be fine with the Rams package or a 2nd this year and next year (which is the equivalent). If I could get a 1st and future 2nd for Mack I would do that too. If I had to keep one I think it would be Mack - let him show he is healthy and than move him. Move Quinn now while his value is high. Both are old and won’t be part of Bears better squads.