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If teams thought Justin was great - they would be bidding all over for his services. Now if we see him go for a 1st rounder - fine, that tells you someone thinks he is a dude. But if he ends up getting a 3rd - yeah - there is no way to chalk that up than teams just thinking he's a mediocre starter worth taking a chance at given his physical tools. Doesn't mean the league is right or wrong - he could use it as extra edge and turn into something, but nothing on film passing wise and progression wise over past 3 years show him getting the ball out faster and more on script. It basically shows him being the same player from year 2 to year 3 and that is a player who flashes greatness off script but is very much not great during the game and who wilts in the 4th quarter.

I think they just view it as - Herbert is okay - but probably not a starter. Johnson is just entering year 2 and he was okay. He could end up being good, but he could also just be meh. Swift has been low usage and is in his prime and definitely has some game.

Herbert is gone at end of the year and depth is important. This is a guy with low mileage as a starter and who has been pretty darn good. 3 year deal is perfect and the money is very reasonable. I love this deal and think we are paying for his BEST years which is exactly what you want to do when you sign a RB. I think whomever gets Saquon or Jacobs are paying for past production vs. future production.

Reports are he is one of their primary focuses (vs. Saquon). I know the name is less sexy but this would be a really good get. He's still young and he's a really good football player. With rookie QB, Bears can afford to splurge a bit at RB (and it saves them from having to use another draft pick on the position in a draft where they don't have a ton of picks).

Good move by Steelers but Cousins goes to Atlanta going to be interesting to see where Fields ends up.

Baker is nearing a 3yr 100M deal with over 50M guaranteed to stay with Bucs. This is why I love getting Caleb. Fields is totally fine if he was willing to sign a below market deal - but paying mediocre qbs that sort of money is going to mire a franchise in mediocrity.

I could dig those numbers - that was great value.

I think whomever get Wilson is going to get someone highly motivated to stick it to Sean Payton and Denver.

I don’t like Clowneh. He goes everywhere and seems to never do much. He has been all hype. I want a 3 down impact linemen and the Bears have all the space to pay for one.

In that game - Caleb had 6TDs and 10 incomplete passes. He also completed a pass to 10 different players…talk about reading a d and not just going to one guy. He went 30-40 for 405 yards and 6TDs and they won by a td cause USC defense is awful (Colorados is too in fairness). I watched that game and I was blown away at how smooth Caleb was (happened to be in Chicago eating a deep dish hole watching). Really appreciate the level of review - and I don’t disagree with some of those examples but there was a ton of great in that game. Great reads and great throws. I am a huge Fields fan boy - love him and want nothing more than for him to be a star. I will root for him wherever he plays next cause he is so likable.

I think both of those guys are signing for 20M plus.

Seems like a solid short term vet signing. I am guessing they are going to spend on a dlinemen and want to get a few things checked off so they can focus on first few days in a couple key targets. My guess is either Vikings or Dolphins dlinemen and for some reason I think they add one of Saquon or Jacobs and then probably wait for a vet wideout signing and maybe pick up another guy olineman.

Mac going to Jacksonville where he will back up Trevor. Fields at least worth more than this - how much more, I don’t know.

That is the floor for me. If they can’t get a 3rd and a conditional 3rd or something next year than Fields value is so bad Bears and Fields should keep him. Fields would have no leverage at that point to be anything other than a great teammate.

He isn’t staying unless his trade market is awful and he actually chooses to stay and compete with Caleb vs going somewhere else he doesn’t want to be. It is obvious - Bears are taking a qb in round 1.

Likewise - welcome aboard!! And I am with you - I am fired up!!!

Sounds like cap hit is about $15M - so Bears have $50M in space heading into free agency. I presume rookie pool will take up another $10M, so $40M available for free agency. Should allow them to add a couple impact players.

Creates some space for a time where the Bears will (hopefully) be looking at extending a QB getting closer to that 5th year option (*wink wink*).

This seems like a very fair deal on both sides and glad to see it executed quickly. I also think it sends a message in terms of Poles working this out and getting an in-house guy signed. We have done it with Kmet and now JJ. To be honest - I would still be open to getting Mooney if he was open to say a 2 or 3yr deal worth 24M or so. Now to hope JJ stays healthy and the improved on ball production (ie turnovers) continues over this contract (and ideally another one)!!!

Wilson is going to cost league minimum for 2 years due to offset language. So Bears would pay him 500k and Broncos would pay 37.5K. So he is cheapest starting qb money could buy basically. And Justin isn’t good enough in my opinion. Wilson is way better and Williams will be way better.

No idea who this is - but this option would be intriguing. You take the HAUL and move back to 2 and than again to say 4. Get multiple future 1sts and a few seconds and than draft MHJ and get McCarthy with next pick and sit him for a season while Wilson leads Bears to playoffs and McCarthy gets time to be ready.

Last year anyone could have gotten Lamar and no one even offered. I am kind of curious - who was last franchise tag player where a team went this route and actually made a formal offer which required matching? I felt like in early 2000s this type of thing happened but I can’t remember any team trying to go this way? Adam or anyone else know last major player where this happened?

Yeah that is my presumption and I would do it as well and go write a big check for one of the stud dlinemen.

One interesting thing is Bears applied the non exclusive tag - so JJ can negotiate with others - Bears can match or we get 2 1st rounders.

My question is - if you were Poles, would you think about trading Johnson. I suspect probability of that happening is low - seems very clear that Poles wants JJ to stick around and JJ wants to be here, so its just a matter of getting the economics to work out. With that said - if you were the Bears, seeing that Poles seems to have an eye for DB talent - would you be open to trading JJ. For me - if I could get a 1st rounder plus another pick (not like a 2nd rounder or anything - maybe a future 3rd) - than I would at least consider it (I presume FRP would be back end) - than deploy the cap space on dline. JJ is a really good DB though so I have zero issue giving him his 4yr 80-90M deal.