adam

Yeah, definitely need a composite system, because if you look at the OLine scores for GB, no one is terrible, yet they were allowing constant pressue.

I don't recall, and based on contracts and obligations, I don't know how feasible that would be.

I have no idea what GB was doing at the goal line against DET. On at least 2 of the short TD runs, there was literally no down lineman on the side of the line and Monty walked in untouched. What is crazy is that DET will not be able to do that all year, there is no way your lead back can have 21 rushes for 3 or less yards (he had 8 rushes for exactly 2 yards) and expect to win many games. It does help to have a double digit lead early. However, Monty is no different than any other year. Another comical thing, PFF loved Monty, he got a 80.2 for that game, yet if not for unbelievable blocking, he would've had 2YPC. On the flip side, another reason why you need the eye test to tell the story. Love was terrible, like worse than Fields terrible. He threw the ball backwards at the feet of his RB to have the ball roll out of bounds for an 11 yard loss. He had a bunch of turnover worthy plays and was lucky to escape with only 2 INTs. If not for the refs allowing them to play after all 0s on the game clock (led to 8 pts and 50+ extra passing yards) and the other drive where they kept GB's drive alive with phantom penalties against DET, the Packers would've lost by at least 24. PFF Grade for Love: 68.1, PFF Grade for Goff: 72.9. Another reason why PFF alone is a joke. There is no way Love gets anything higher than a 50 for that game. QBR to me is much better, Goff had a 61.2, Love had a 7.0 which is the lowest QBR game this season beating Daniel Jones' 8.2.

I think one of the overarching problems is, once you get to that level (the NFL), there is a limit on the amount of humans that can do what they do at that level. Like in reality, Mahomes is probably the only generational QB talent currently playing (not counting Rodgers who is past his prime and on IR). After that you have that 2nd tier that have great games but are just not at the sustained success as Mahomes has been at, guys like Hurts, Allen, Burrow, Herbert, Jackson, maybe Tua, Prescott, but that's it. Just a handful of guys. Most of them will end up like Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers, a ton of yards and TDs, and not much else to show for a 20-year career. Same goes for coaching, how many true offensive gurus are coaching in the league today? McDaniel, Shanahan, McVay, LaFleur, and maybe Johnson and Canales? That's it. I don't count Belichick or Reid as they are grandfathered in. So if you don't have one of those 6-8 guys on your staff as at least OC or HC, and one of the QBs mentioned above, the odds of you winning anything is slim to none. The Bears have neither, and I don't know the last time they had either, Ditka and peak McMahon?

It has to be Hoke or Hightower, I would assume.

Majority of the QBs fall into the average category 40-60 for QBR, as 50.0 is exactly average. It's the guys above 60 and below 40 that standout. So Hurts is doing nothing for his team to be 3-0 and Cousins is doing more than average though his team is really bad. The top 2 teams in the league have the top 2 QBs: Tua and Purdy in terms of QBR. Fields and Wilson are winless and the last 2 QBs, so they are actually bringing their teams down and their teams are playing bad. They are both playing worse than a normal QB in the same situation. So if Fields was above 40, and the Bears were 0-3, most of the fault would be on others. If he had a QBR like Cousins, he would not be the problem. The way I see it: Below 40: Hurting team, playing too far below average 40-50: Not helping, but not hurting 50-60: Helping team 60-70: A huge contributor to the team's success 70+: Carrying team, making others around him better

Denver has 4x WRs with over 100 yards receiving. Marvin Mims leads the team with 195 yds. Sutton has 17 receptions for 189. Brandon Johnson has emerged and they still have Jeudy. With the Bears depleted secondary, Russ is probably going to gash the Bears defense. Teams rarely score their projected points in back to back road games, we will see if that holds true with Denver. The Denver defense is bad, so the Bears offense should feel right at home as they practice against a bad defense every day.

I think Mahomes would not have as good of numbers as he does now, and Fields would be better, for sure. I am just saying there are very few cases where a player is either really bad or really good on one team, then goes to another team and is the complete opposite, just because of the coaching and other players. It does happen, but it is the outlier. If you look around the league, having the Offensive Guru as the HC makes the most sense, because you don't have to worry about losing him every season to another team if he was just the OC. The HC can be the play caller and have a named OC that is more of an Asst. Head Coach. Then you bring in an established name as the DC, who can also act as an Asst. HC. That way the HC who is calling the plays has some cover for other parts of the duties that he may not be able to do while calling plays. Also, the game is super analytical now. The coaches don't even need to make their own plays. All they have to do is put there own wrinkle on the same concepts. There are only some many routes to run, route combinations that work against specific defenses, etc, etc. Everything is plotted and graphed, so there should be very little need for major decisions within the game. You make them before the game. That is why the Getsy stuff is so alarming at this point. The Texans have a rookie QB, new coaching staff throwing to Nico Collins and Tank Dell, and both of those WRs have more receptions and yards than any WR on the Bears. Getsy was the biggest mistake for the Bears. Knowing the Bears had Fields, he was the polar opposite of Rodgers, a young QB vs a HOFer, Rodgers can pretty much do anything on every play as long as the other players don't make a major mistake. Fields is a mobile QB who has a hard time reading the MoF. That is like oil and water. What could Getsy impart on Fields? Getsy didn't call plays and was just a spectator. I think that was the Bears biggest mistake. Off topic a little, does it ever feel like to you that Fields is shorter than advertised. Fields hits OLine helmets and gets balls batted down like he is 5'10", and when he stands in the pocket he looks shorter than guys like Watson, etc, and he is taller. Hurts even crouches down very low and still makes throws of the middle. I always felt that they should measure eye height vs overall height, because if you have a 5-head like Glennon, you will be 2 inches taller than a normal cranium, but your eye level will be that of someone 2 inches shorter.

Patrick Mahomes is a generational talent, and outside of Kelce and Jones, the Bears may have had a better roster. Mahomes it football jesus, he can literally make any player look good. The team would not have had the success KC did, but that is relative to the entire team, not just Mahomes. Mahomes in a vacuum will probably end up as the best QB of all-time, and he will eclipse numbers set by Brady, Favre, and Rodgers long before they hit the same numbers. Now he just needs to keep winning championships and catch or surpass Brady. Would he have won a SB in Chicago? Yes, in 2018, easily. That would've completely changed how 2019 was handled, so who knows how many more he would've won. Nagy is doing pretty good with him right now. If Fields was with Reid, I think he would be much better than he is now with Getsy, but I assume every young QB would be. Look at what Stroud is doing in HOU, name his top 2 WRs, TE, and RB off the top of your head. Love has been playing solid in QB without his WR1 and RB1, and he doesn't throw for 99 yards. Regardless of the players around him, Fields himself, is not producing. As the biggest contributor in a football game, his impact is the greatest and has a domino effect. If the Bears had Andy Dalton back, the Bears are probably 2-1, and the offense would look a lot more in fluid. Fields is making the offense clunky right now and unfortunately, until he improves, I don't see this changing.

DVOA for Fields thru 3 weeks is -51.8% (last), he passed Jake Luton to become the 2nd worst QB in the last 5 years with over 400 passing attempts. He is nearing Mike Glennon the Giant territory, who is dead last: 20 Luton -48.6% w/ 117 attempts 23 Fields -51.8% w/ 101 attempts 21 Glennon -59.2% w/ 173 attempts To understand how bad Glennon was, he only lasted 4 games. He had 4 TD and 10 INT, a QB Rating of 49.7 and averaged 131 passing yards a game while being sacked 9 times. If we go up in passing attempts, the next two QBs ahead of Fields with more attempts is 20' Dwayne Haskins (-40.1% w/ 261 attempts) and 20' Alex Smith (-39.7% w/ 274 attempts), interestingly enough, both on the Commanders. Fields current QBR is 21.0, 34/34 in the NFL. Fields has had a bottom-5 QBR every week this season. For PFF, Fields has a 62.3 (27th) OFF Grade and a 54.3 Passing Grade (31st). His traditional QB Rating is 67.7 (30th) So the eye test is matching the stats, all of the stats. I think the worst possible combination all hit at the same time, weak roster (GM), bad HC, bad/inexperienced OC and play caller, and a QB that really needs a super strong development environment to progress. This is clearly not a system built for Fields, nor is it play to his strengths, that is 100% on Getsy, and should be a fireable offense (no pun intended). The only thing saving Fields right now is that the entire roster around him is terrible and his OC can't draw up a play to get anyone open. Guys like Burrow, Pickett, Lawrence, and even Hurts have a lower than normal QBR. So it could just be an early season thing, but if he ever needed a slump buster, I hope he finds one this week and gets all his frustrations out, just don't pull a hammy.

If Fields was ever gonna throw for 300 yards, here is his chance. At home against a team that gave up 70 pts. Denver is on the road for back to back games.

That tells me there is a disconnect between GM and HC.

At this point, they have to go no less than 2-2 in the next 4, otherwise someone is fired or Fields is benched. 1-3 makes them 1-6 and 4-20 over the last two seasons. 2-2 at least shows some sign of progress. Based on those opponents, they should go 3-1 at a minimum, but they're the Bears and nuthin' is easy. The first win would do wonders for them, even against a winless team like Denver. Getting 2 straight would also be huge because that has yet to happen under Flus.

and the 2024 FA class is stacked. Tee Higgins, Chris Jones, Danielle Hunter, Brian Burns, Montez Sweat, Rashan Gary, Calvin Ridley, Michael Pittman, Jaylon Johnson. WRs and Pass Rushers galore! Caleb Williams throwing to DJ Moore, Marvin Harrison Jr, and Tee Higgins? How would that look? https://www.nfl.com/news/top-50-nfl-free-agents-in-2024-tee-higgins-headlines-deep-receiver-crop-pass-rus

Dalton started how many games for the Bears, yet somehow managed to throw for 300 yards (which I believe was the Bears last 300 yard game). Something Fields has yet to do in the NFL. Nick Foles? Started 10 games for the Bears, he had a 300 yard game. It feels like the Bears kept the training wheels on Fields too long. Go back and watch that Cleveland game if you have NFL+, it was atrocious blocking, but as an NFL QB, you can't be that lackadaisical in the pocket. It's like his internal clock is slower than everyone elses. THROW THE BALL!

That is such a depressing comment. So he is now just sitting back and taking it all in and resigned to the fact that this is his peak. It is all downhill from here. I bet he realizes he is done as an NFL starting QB, the writing is on the wall. It is Year 3, Game 4 on Sunday, and you still have the same issues you had 3 years ago. No QB with stats that bad has ever made it to 30 starts, Fields is going into start #29, he may get #30 on a short week for TNF against WAS, but could that be it for him?

I missed this. Did you watch it all the way through? I swear I only saw one pass completed inside the hashes (to ESB I believe), every other pass was sidelines and 2-3 to Kmet up the seam by the numbers. Mostly outside. It was either first read or rollout/scramble. Looking at these now, they don't look nearly as impressive as they did before.

Me too at this point. He has built bad habits for 25+ NFL starts, the other QBs that he was comp'd with showed a drastic turnaround early in Year 3, and he has shown regression. If he doesn't do any amazing scrambles, he looks like a bottom 5 QB that should not be starting in the NFL. The only other option is to make him the backup QB and gadget player like Taysom Hill. Fields is so dynamic as a runner that if they don't use that 75% of the time, it is a waste of athleticism. He is a gifted athlete, not a gifted QB. Watching him now, he looks like he is in the wrong position, like putting a Power Forward at Point Guard. Can they do it? Sure, and some can do it well, but the operation looks clunky. That is Fields.

With 2 weeks in the books, the Bears have the 1st and 4th picks in the 2024 draft. The 1st is their own, and the 4th is from CAR. There are 4x 0-3 teams with DEN and MIN being the last two. In Week 4, those 4 teams face off against each other: DEN @ CHI (Battle of the Suck), two teams enter, one team sucks. MIN @ CAR (Battle of the Suck Part Deux), two teams enter, one team sucks again. So after this week, there will only be 2 winless teams, and the odds say it will be CHI and CAR lol. That would put them in line for the #1 and #2 pick in 2024. Insane. Could you imagine that being some combination of Caleb Williams, Marvin Harrison Jr, Jared Verse, Jer'Zhan Newton, Olumuyiwa Fashnu. The Bears could walk away with a true generational talent at QB and WR, or a combo of QB and Edge, QB and DL or OT. So at this point, would you rather see another 3-14 season with the chance at 2 top 5 picks, or 6-11 and 1 top 5 and 1 top 10 pick? I think the only way they stay with Fields is if they win 7 or more games, they need to play .500 ball the rest of the way and he needs to actually show development. If not, they have to get Williams, and if not the first pick, get one of the other QBs like Maye.

One thing to note, a lot of teams are sending their best pass rusher off the RT side, or they at least swap them. That is how Jones ended up on Wright for the sack he gave up. Jones is a DT. So I think we are getting to the point where the LT and RT are equally needed with the LT having a minor edge due to it being the blindside. However, if you were going to move them, it needed to happen from Day 1.

The worst part is the middle of the field, that's his Kryptonite. This chart is sad af. 3-4 throws to the middle of the field. Teams know this and they force him to throw there, but he won't.

His first 3 starts vs his last 3 starts 2021 (Game 4-6) - 39-64, 60.9%, 494 yds, 7.7 Y/A, 2 TD, 2 INT, 7 sacks (ARob, Mooney, Goodwin) 2023 (Game 1-3) - 51-88, 57.9%, 526 yds, 5.9 Y/A, 3 TD, 4 INT, 13 sacks (Moore, Mooney, Claypool) For sake of fairness I didn't use the CLE game because of the lack of prep. However, with a better receiving corps and 20+ starts in between, outside of 32 more yards in 3 games, he has a lower Comp%, lower Y/A, 1 more TD, 1 more INTs, and 6 more sacks. This is the same QB, doing the same things, and to me, using the eyeball test, has regressed since his rookie year.

No one is trading a 1st for Fields, Lance was traded for a 4th. That would be the max comp for Fields as he has shown he is worse than Lance.

The tape is brutal. Fields needs to be benched. He is beyond repair, at least on this team. He either doesn't see the wide open players (bad vision, not looking that way, etc), or he sees them but can't process the visual information fast enough to trigger his body to physically throw the ball. Don't get me wrong here, but he may have a neurological impairment that prevents that sort of processing. If that is the case, I really feel sorry for him.

WIDE OPEN, just throw the damn ball. It's like he can't see receivers inside the hashes.