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We really need Velus. How long can be out for a soft tissue injury. He has been out 2 months now.

Seriously, if we can't beat the Giants with this WR Corps, the franchise should be disbanded.

Who is Jones throwing to without Shepard? Jones was pressured over 20 times and sacked 5 times.

Giants are playing tonight, so I wanted to start this thread before the game. It will be interesting to see if they win and start the season 3-0. I thought the initial line of Bears -3 was very telling. Vegas thinks this is an even game on a neutral field. They will have the short week. Without the 3rd game for the Giants, the team stats will be a little skewed, but I will update later. Right now for comparison sake: Pts scored - CHI - 20th, NYG - 16th Pts allowed - CHI - 12th, NYG - 8th Total Yards - CHI - 31st, NYG - 22nd Total Yards Against - CHI - 20th, NYG - 13th INTs - CHI - 3, NYG - 0 Sacks - CHI - 6, NYG - 3 So NYG beat TEN and CAR. CAR might be the worst team in the league (like HOU). Mayfield threw for 145 yds against the Giants. Against the Titans, they had 2x 60+ yd plays (1 run, 1 pass) that led to 2 of their TDs. The Giants have yet to get an INT, and only average 1.5 sacks a game. That is very favorable for Fields. Their passing defense looks good in terms of yards allowed, but it is sort of off with who they played. This will be an away game for Fields, maybe he plays better, like he did against PIT last year. He really needs a game like that to get his confidence back. It seems like it is all gone and he is overthinking on every play. My early prediction is Bears 23-20.

The Pro Football Docs speculated it as a possible high ankle or MCL sprain or both. They have been pretty spot on with injury assessments from watching how the injury occurred. They could be totally wrong, but like I said, they have been surprisingly accurate. A high ankle would be 4-6 weeks. Flus said he was optimistic and that Monty was day to day, so we will see. Crazy ironic that Monty wore a Cohen shirt to the game that he got hurt in:

This is what the Bears will be facing between now and the next GB game. QBR Rating: Week 4 - Jones - 27th - Jones is terrible Week 5 - Cousins - 20th - it depends on what Cousins shows up Week 6 - Wentz (TNF) - 24th - Wentz was sacked 9 times by JAX Week 7 - Jones/Hoyer - 25th - Jones hurt, Hoyer may start Week 8 - Rush - 3rd - It seems like he has peaked and will only come down once there is tape on him. Week 9 - Tua - 1st - I don't think he is this good or will be able to keep this up all season. Week 10 - Goff - 8th - Goff is way too high for who he is, he will come down too. Week 11 - Mariota - 12th - Surprisingly high for what looked like a career backup after TEN Week 12 - Wilson/Flacco - 28th - bad young or bad old At least 5 favorable QB matchups in the next 9 weeks and that does not count Goff, Rush, or Mariota. Possibly 8 of 9 with Tua being the toughest. The good thing is we get Tua and Goff at home.

Still the last Wild Card team. If DAL wins, it would be a tiebreaker. Still pretty funny. Game balls for Roquan and Herbert. Hopefully Patrick can start at center next weekend, so Jenkins can also play the entire game at RG. Need to get Johnson back and Velus needs to play at some point. Barely played in the preseason and has yet to play in the regular season after 3 weeks. Not a good look so far. Right now Brisker and Jones look like great picks. Gordon needs to improve quickly, getting burned a lot. Velus has yet to play one snap. Gill has looked good too. So a mixed draft so far unless Gordon improves and Velus plays and looks decent. Ebner has been ok, but he needs to take a knee on some KO returns.

It seems like the rust is finally off. What a game he had. In 3 games, Smith leads the NFL in total tackles (T-36), has 0.5 sacks, 2 TFLs, 1 INT, and 2 Passes Defended. If he can keep up this pace and get a couple of FF's he will be looking at a big contract. He is on pace for over 200 total tackles.

Looks like a possible high ankle and MCL sprain. That would be 4-6 weeks, if any tears, it might be longer. Tough blow in a contract year, but on the flip side, Herbert looked really good.

These 3 games have been statistically one of the worst 3-game stretches for a QB going back at least the last 20 years. He has 23 completions and 297 yards in 3 starts. That is an average of 7 completions and 99 passing yards per game. It is almost beyond comical at this point. Since Week 1 he has literally regressed in every imaginable way. Holding the ball too long, instead of stepping up into the pocket, sidesteps right into sacks, inaccurate passes, going thru his progressions too slow, bad mechanics. 30 QB started games so far this week. Fields had 64 fewer yards than the 29th QB (Mayfield), had 4 less completions than Mayfield, and one less attempt than Tua, yet was 2nd in INTs with 2. Before the game, HOU had one of the worst passing defenses and is now ranked 11th (Pass Def Yards). It is not going to get easier for Fields as the Giants have the 8th best Pass Def in terms iof yards, but luckily for him, they have 0 INTs and only 3 sacks (in 2 games).

There are a few cases where players turned it around after a string of bad starts, but Fields right now is off the charts (in the wrong direction). When the other QBs were bad, they were bad, but they weren't this bad. Fields would have to improve just to get to their rookie levels (Big Ben, Lamar, Allen). If Fields was a 3rd Round pick (like Mond), he is probably going back to the bench to learn some more. At this point, it is hard to tell if this experience he is getting is even helping. It is much easier to shoot a rifle when you aren't being shot at. I am thinking, if he has another game like this AND the Bears lose, you have to at least consider going with someone like Siemian and let Fields speed up his process in practice. Is Siemian a long term answer? No, but he is at least a semi competent QB, who has a career 81.2 Passer Rating, more TDs than INTs (41-27) in 29 starts. In the other thread, I like to use INTs+Sacks/Attempts as a better determiner for how the QB is playing. Siemian's has been sacked 75 times and has 27 INTs in 1029 attempts. That is 9.9%. Fields has been sacked 46 times and has 14 INTs in 315 attempts (19.0%). Fields is on pace to have 2x the number of sacks and INTs with Siemian's attempts which would literally be the worst QB ever to start more than 20 games. Fields has 13 starts, he has 7 more before it is officially official. I am giving him to the bye to show that he can be a competent starting QB.

Continuing this trend. Today Fields had 2 INTs and 5 sacks on 17 pass attempts. So his INT+Sack to Attempt ratio was 41.2% and they somehow won the game. Today Mac Jones had 321 Passing yards, 0 TD, 3 INT, and 3 sacks. 6 negative plays with 32 passing attempts, 18.75% is one of his worst games and still lower than Fields Lawrence had 262 and 3 TD (and beat the Chargers).

Currently the last wild card team, lol, unless SF wins tonight.

4 = bad, 3 = good, not good. How about Vildor? Outside of 1 PBU, he was literally the worst player on the field besides Fields.

Yeah thats what sucks. If Fields is not it, we are killing ourselves winning these worthless games. I would rather have him play good and lose than to play like this and win.

Oh I agree, there is no point to put him in. However, Fields looks worse than Trubisky at the same points in their career (both had new coaches/scheme). He has regressed so much, it is quite shocking.

Unbelievable, a 23-20 win against the Texans. We needed a defensive INT in the Texans red zone to win by 3. So do they keep starting Fields? 8-17, 106 yds, 2 INT, 5 sacks. Again, 7 negative plays in 17 attempts.

At least Roquan showed up today. Double digit tackles, 2 TFLs, 1 huge INT.

How big of a sample size does he need? It was the weather, O-Line, tough defense, now what? At home against the Texans. He has been the worst QB in the league for the 2nd year now and in this game he looks the same. He has regressed so much, there has been zero improvement. He is literally doing everything wrong. It is absolutely shocking.

Has a team ever had 300 yards rushing and lost?

He is 5-14 with 2 INTs, 3 sacks. 5 negative plays in 14 attempts. Same dude every game.

Fields is terrible. He looks worse than Trubisky. He is missing wide open receivers. This is embarrassing.

Poor Mitch. If anyone watched TNF, it was like a bad dream. Same dude. It seems like this was the last game for him as the starter. They are 1-2 and really should be 0-3. His Y/A is 5.5. They were something like 1 and 8 on 3rd Downs. He looked like a better version of Tim Tebow. He looks the part, but then has bad mechanics, can escape the pocket, but then throws a bad ball. Sometimes hits a big pass which keeps you interested. Then when you need him, he falls through. That was all on display last night.

The next two games will be telling. Texans and Giants, both improved teams, but still the lower half of the league. If Fields is not getting 20+ passing attempts in both games, that is a red flag. The running game may have been working, but it also chewed a ton of time off the clock. So it is a double edged sword. They were basically protecting against the deep shot with 2 deep safeties and making the Bears beat them underneath or with the run. The Bears still elected to run instead of the quick passing game. My concern is at some point the numbers are the numbers. His 25% may be a small sample size but for Fields career, he is at 17.8%, which would be the worst all time for any QB. He needs to start going 20+ attempts without a sack or INT. The rate is just too high for a negative play. David Carr, who everyone has as the poster boy for getting sacked out of the league only had a 10.5% Sack+Int to Attempt ratio for his career. A guy like Dwayne Haskins was at 14%. Fields has to show significant improvement in the next two weeks.

Yep, that does make sense, because he looked like me out there, old and slow.