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Everything posted by adam
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Allen is more of a blocking TE that is really good at catching the ball. He is definitely not Horsted in terms of route running and separation, but I could see Allen in a lot of 12 packages. I would be shocked if Sanborn doesn't make the 53 and I would not be surprised to see him starting Week 1 at Sam. He would come out for the Slot Corner in sub packages.
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I really hope he surprises everyone and makes Poles look like a genius. If they had him rated over all those other guys, then there was a reason for it. The fear on any of the stats, especially ones that are not receptions, yards, TDs, etc, is how much of that was due to the fact that he was just more developed as an adult man playing against 19 yr old kids? If he ends up just being a returner, then it was a bad pick. If he is a returner but also contributes on offense as at least the WR3/4, then it wouldn't be as bad.
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Kittle went in the 5th didn't he? I was just saying there were a lot of guys on the board that could contribute immediately in areas of need. Jones seemed like a reach/project pick, which are normally selected in the later rounds. The Shaheen pick will always be worse, but it was similar in the fact that there were guys on the board in the same round that would've clearly been a better pick.
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Yeah, it looks like he wasn't getting an opportunity on offense because he was so valuable on special teams. A catch 22 perhaps. Good catch on the COVID stuff. How many players played several seasons at one school before transferring during COVID? That surely would bring that list way down. I myself have higher hopes for him, but I am not expecting anything crazy. Cohen had 53 receptions for 353 yards his rookie year. I don't think Jones will have that many targets, but something in the mid-30s for receptions and 400+ yards is not out of the question.
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I've heard some great things about Jack Sanborn, Chase Allen, Allie Green, and Major Teague. I would not be surprised if Sanborn is a Week 1 starter, he was projected anywhere from the 4th-7th. On The Draft Network, he had a 4th round value (#119). Amari Carter, CB from Miami was also expected to be drafted, TDN had him at #196 (5th Round Value). So I wouldn't be surprised to see Sanborn and one other of Green/Carter - CB, Allen - TE, or Teague - RB make the roster. The rest will easily make the practice squad.
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Pix, Check out this article about Jones' age: https://beargoggleson.com/2022/05/06/velus-jones-chicago-bears/
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He may end as the new Tanner Gentry or Daniel Braverman.
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Interesting article, just using age as a comparison of other WRs that had their breakout year at 23 or later. https://beargoggleson.com/2022/05/06/velus-jones-chicago-bears/ The top 2 WRs on the list are Cooper Kupp and Van Jefferson. That's basically it. That is out of 37 WRs in that same group. I understand their point, that an older player is more fully developed, so they have an easier time against 19 and 20 year olds that are still developing. The Bears passed on Abraham Lucas, OT, Christian Harris, LB, Travis Jones, DT, Bernard Raimann, OT, Jalen Tolbert, WR, Dylan Parham, OG, and David Bell, WR. I really hope he works out and proves everyone wrong, otherwise this may end up as Poles' Shaheen pick.
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The Brisker pick also makes me think Jackson won't be around in a year or two. This makes it easier to move on from him now. I really wanted a WR in the 2nd, but Poles got 2 guys who were mocked /rated much higher and fit the Flus defense very well. The one trend that seems evident in most of the picks is measurables. Most picks and even some UDFAs had really high RAS scores. Poles got some extra darts late in the draft which increases the probability a few will hit. I like that method. Overall, happy with the draft, got some blue chip defenders in the 2nd and extra picks late.
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WRs that will be gone by 39: Wilson, London, Williams, Olave, Burks Give me your top 3 from the following WRs as you would select them if available (NFL.com rating): Christian Watson - 6.27 (6'4" - 4.36 40) Jahan Dotson - 6.25 (5'11" - 4.43 40) Skyy Moore - 6.24 (5'10" - 4.41 40) George Pickens - 6.23 (6'3" - 4.47 40) Jalen Tobert - 6.21 (6'1" - 4.49 40) John Metchie - 6.18 (5'11" - INJ) Alec Pierce - 6.16 (6'3" - 4.41 40) Calvin Austin - 6.00 (5'8" - 4.32 40) Tyquan Thompson - 5.97 (6'2" - 4.28) David Bell - 5.95 (6'1' - 4.65 40) I would probably go Watson, Pickens, Pierce. All 3 are 6'3" or 6'4" and would create some mismatches with smaller DBs. Pierce is 211 lbs, Watson is 208 and Pickens is the lightest at 195. I really want a bigger WR to go along with Mooney.
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Yeah, you definitely need about 2-3 rotational guys on the DL, at least an extra backer (in 4-3), and 2-3 extra DBs that will get a decent amount of snaps. So they need 16-18 quality players who will see a bulk of the snaps. Depending on who you count right now: DL: Blackson, Edwards, Gipson, Jones, Muhammad, Tonga, Quinn, Attaochu LB: Smith, Morrow, Adams, Jones, Snowden, Thomas DB: Johnson, Graham, Jackson, Cruikshank, DHC, Joseph, Shelley, Vildor From these names, it looks like we still could use a 3T, another LB (Sam), and CB and SS. I would say DE (in both base and sub) is probably our strongest position. Edwards, Gipson, Muhammad, Quinn, and Attacochu can all play there.
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Mock Compilation Using PFF, PFN, and TDN simulators, I ran them up to the 39th pick and noted who were the top 15 rated players available in each of the sites. 2 players were available and in the top 15 on all 3 sites: K. Walker, RB and C. Harris, LB 10 players were available and in the top 15 on 2 of 3 sites: Pitre, CB; Dotson, WR; Jackson, ED; Muma, LB; Hall, RB; Watson, WR; Smith, OT; Ojabo, ED; Jones, DT; Leal, DT So just going off consensus rankings, which 2 guys would you be happy with at 39 and 48? RB: Walker, Hall WR: Dotson, Watson OT: Smith DL: Jones, Leal ED: Jackson, Ojabo LB: Harris, Muma CB: Pitre
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I agree, OG/OT, 3T, and WR have to be the top 3. The only other position I can see is CB or doubling up on OL or WR in the first 3 picks.
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Mooney has played well against some good CBs too, I remember him de-pantsing Ramsey only to have Foles miss him. Fields and Mooney are locked in right now and I can only imagine that his numbers will be even better than last year's (81-1055, 4 TD). I am thinking something like an extra reception every game to get close to 100 receptions, 1200-1300 yards (his Y/R last year was 13.0) and 7-8 TDs. Only 7 WRs had over 1200 yds last year (Kupp, Jefferson, Adams, Chase, Samuel, Hill, and Diggs). Only 9 WRs had over 100 receptions. Only 5 WRs had over 100 receptions AND 1200 yds (Kupp, Jefferson, Adams, Hill, Diggs). So if Mooney can do that, I don't know how you can't call him a WR1.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they at least took 1x OL and 1x DL in the first 3 picks.
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I would be happy with: OL: Fisher or Brown WR: Humphries - True Slot WR WR: Sharpe - replaces Byrd or Goodwin LB: Hitchens CB: Rhodes One thing to note for some of these guys, they may have some agreement worked out in principle, but want to wait until after the draft to sign them due to comp picks.
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There still are a lot of top FAs left. I don't remember this many guys being available a week before the draft: OL: Tretter, Williams, Fisher, Brown, Reiff, Shell, Flowers, Turner, Crosby, Quessenberry, Paradis WR: Beckham, Jones, Landry, Fuller, Beasley, Hilton, Sanders, Snead, Cole, Humphries, Sharpe CB: Harris, Fuller, Callahan, Rhodes, Sherman, Haden, Deisr, Bouye, Trufant, Alford, Carrie S: Mathieu, Collins, McCourty, Edmunds, Kazee, Tartt, Gipson DL: Richardson, Hicks, Ogunjobi, Lotulelei, Joseph LB: Johnson, Van Noy, Barr, Collins, Hightower, Wright, Hitchens, Smith, Kwiatkoski Who would you like to see out of this group?
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Absolutely. There is very little drop off from 40-70. That's where the evaluations come in. I still think #39 has the most potential for trade candidates with the Seattle back to back picks following the Bears. Getting another pick in the top 100 would be huge.
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Oh I am sure we would be happier with the process if the Bears got more picks. However, in general, it doesn't necessarily help the lesser teams. Better teams are also more likely to trade for veterans who are on the last year of their contracts, then reap the benefits of that trade when that player signs elsewhere after the season. That is a very common theme. To me, at most it should be only for players coming off their rookie contracts with their original teams.
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I think the OLine will come down to how they rate Jenkins and Borom. If they like both, they really could just go OG within the first 3 picks. Otherwise, you really need 2. I also could see a 3T or CB in the top 3 as well. Trading down with one of those 2nds and picking up a 3rd or 4th would be huge.
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If that is the case, there will be a top OL or CB available at 39. I still think that is a prime spot one slot ahead of Seattle with 2 straight picks. Someone will want to jump in front of them.
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I could have sworn some of those guys were cuts, not all UFAs.
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You are spot on. If they wanted parity, they would not give out comp picks and reward teams for losing players. In some cases, teams with bad cap management actually get rewarded for losing a player they can't afford.
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I am really hoping for at least one trade back and the ability to pick up at least a 4th or potentially another 3rd. The sweet spot of this draft seems to be between 30 and 80. Our 39th pick is super interesting. Seattle has the next two picks, so there is a good chance they will pick someone that is #1 on the board for a few other teams. I could see teams wanting to leapfrog them to ensure they get their guy. So hypothetically, would you select Jalen Pitre, CB from Baylor at #39 or would you trade back with someone like ATL (has 2x 2nds and 2x 3rds), CLE (has 2x 3rds) or PHI (has 2x 3rds, 3x 5ths) for their 2nd and a 3rd or 4th? To me, unless a top WR or OL falls, I am looking to trade back.
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I am just going off what the Colts looked like and what I think they are going to do. I am not saying I wouldn't personally do it, I would be good with OL, WR, or CB in the 2nd. Last year the Colts had Kenny Moore and Xavier Rhodes at CB. Just for simplicity's sake, Rhodes was 26th and Moore was 50th in PFF rankings. Neither were elite and Johnson was at least equal to, if not better than both of them. If they pair him with Graham and the newly acquired Tavon Young, they should be fine. I assume they will still draft one, but depending on how they view Graham will be the ultimate determination on who they draft in the 2nd. For me, this year is all about Fields, they have to do what Cincy did for Burrow. Give him weapons and build a solid O-Line. To me, you have to go either OL+OL, OL+WR, or WR+WR in the first two picks unless the value is not there.