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It's crazy to see some of the WR's Pace passed on to take Miller. The 3 WRs to immediately follow Miller were James Washington, DJ Chark, and Michael Gallup. Pace cited a weak 2019 class and Miller as a can't miss prospect in the reasoning to move up to get Miller. In 2019, at the Bears pick traded to NE, KC drafted Hardman, DJ Metcalf went 8 picks later, Diontae Johnson went 10 picks later, and Terry McLaurin went 20 picks later. Talk about not a complete and utter whiff. They also traded a 4th rounder to move up. Pace's motto should be "pay more to get less"

Yeah, that is one of the bigger problems. This is one of the worst years to need a QB and not have a top 10 pick. 1. NYJ - Lawrence 2. JAX - Best QB not named Trevor 3. CIN - won't need a QB, but teams can trade up to here 4. LAC - won't need a QB, but teams can trade up to here 5. DAL - possible, depends on Dak 6. PHI - possible, Wentz Hurts, but you never know 7. ATL 4-8 - possible, perfect chance to nab Ryan's replacement 8. HOU 4-8 - unlikely, traded to MIA who won't need a QB, but teams can trade up to here 9. CAR 4-8 - doubtful, depends on how they view Bridgewater 10. DEN 4-8 - will need a QB, Lock is not the answer 11. WAS 5-7 - will need a QB, another chance to get their QB and have them sit behind Smith 12. DET 5-7 - may move on from Stafford, even if they don't they could pull the trigger. 13. CHI 5-7 - depends on what they do with developmental QB Trubisky 14. SF 5-7 - possible, Jimmy G not the answer Getting in front of Denver and Washington would be huge. That could give the Bears the 3rd QB off the board. Even the 4th QB gives you the pick between the last of Fields, Lance, and Wilson. The 5th is where the value drops off.

Probably not, but we basically bottomed out in the middle of the Fox era and have yet to truly recover. However, it is hard to imagine Smith doing worse than Trestman and Fox given the same teams.

1. NYJ 0-12 2. JAX 1-11 3. CIN 2-9-1 4. LAC 3-9 5. DAL 3-8 TNF 6. PHI 3-8-1 ----------- 7. ATL 4-8 8. HOU 4-8 9. CAR 4-8 10. DEN 4-8 11. WAS 5-7 12. DET 5-7 13. CHI 5-7 14. SF 5-6 MNF

Insane, Riverboat Ron has that team playing very solid, especially on defense. That D-Line is a top 5 unit. That just helped the Bears draft position. I don't think anyone saw that as a win.

Well I agree on Kiper, he is nothing more than a super fan. On Orlovsky, yes he has been there and done that but was so bad and the team he was on was historically bad that I don't know if that experience is in any way helpful for a guy to then critique other QBs on things he did but worse. It is like pointing out that Rivers throws the ball like a shotput when he makes a bad throw, that is not really analysis or useful. So for him to take the time to post a video of Trubisky with bad footwork on a bad throw that actually hit Kmet in the chest is a waste of time. You are spot on about the other QBs. They can throw from any body position or motion with the same accuracy as they do from traditional drop back. That is what sets them apart from the rest that cannot do that. I like your point about seeing the field, because Trubisky has tunnel vision and doesn't see the whole field, ever. That's why you saw the team cut the field in half for him a lot early on with designed rollouts and bootlegs, so all he had to worry about was 2-3 defenders and 2 receivers. I don't disagree, Pace made the wrong pick, then didnt address the O-Line, and drafted questionable offensive talent. Shaheen was a bust, Cohen is very gadgety, Miller is a bust, Ridley and Wims never amounted to anything. So Monty and Mooney were the only two that were worthy picks. Nagy is definitely responsible as well. Foles struggling was his death sentence. It never was all on Trubisky, and that was on full display week in and week out with Foles under center. Nagy's offensive scheme was so bad that not even another play caller could do anything because the problem was the entire scheme is a joke. It is so predictable and any motion or wrinkles seem to confuse the offense more than the defense.

That's the point. The only way it's gonna change is if they change their mindset and hard stances. If not now, when? The Bears are home underdogs vs a team with 4 wins. They will more than likely lose to Watson, another reminder of one of the worst draft blunders in NFL history. Would 7 in a row be enough? That's something this franchise hasn't seen in a very long time.

This is the Lovie curse, after the Ditka curse. We have never recovered from moving on from Lovie and Angelo.

A complete shit show. What an embarrassment.

Prescott is the hail mary, but they would have to move a ton of players (which I am in favor of) to get him. Like I said, trade (Mack, Quinn, Fuller, Jackson), cut Leno, Massie, Graham, and Skrine, and you might have enough for Prescott. We are in a 3-year rebuild now, embrace the suck for a few years and understand that 75% of the current team will not be part of the rebuild.

Yeah a couple of years before my time, the earliest memory I have is of the 78' season. However, you reinforced my point, that was 50 years ago. This is on par with that era as well.

Nope, Foles is still under contract (thru 2022), and technically they could franchise or transition tag Mitch, then trade him.

We have been longing for this sustained success, got the new Offensive Guru, with new QB, and a top 5 defense. The arrow was pointing up. It was all hollow though. That 2018 was a fluke that used Fangio's defense and a ton of turnovers (not sustainable) to win 12 games and come within a double doink from advancing in the playoffs. Then the team came back down to earth and you could tell the overall team quality was lower due to lack of draft capital. Then we start 5-1 and there is renewed optimism, but now have lost 6 straight games for the first time in 18 years. Think of how many bad teams the Bears have had since 2002 and this is the first one to lose 6 straight since then. Nagy was a fake. He talked a good game, but that was it. He was way over his head as a HC and probably even as a Coordinator. Pagano's defense was never great, he just had great players, especially in Baltimore. Here? There are some lazy SOBs that got paid and decided to go through the motions. Jackson, Mack, Quinn all got big money have done nothing. Goldman got paid then sat out. Leno has been a turd every since he got his big contract. It is all over the team. The new regime really needs to clean house. I would take anything to get Mack, Quinn and few other contracts off the books. Trade them all, keep Smith on defense and Monty on offense. Take any offer for Mack, Quinn, Hicks, Fuller, Jackson, cut Skrine, Massie, Graham, Leno, franchise ARob, then trade him too. Cut Miller, Wims, and Coward. We definitely need a reboot and with the reduced cap, next year is the perfect year to do it.

Again if those guys got fired for being terrible, would you want advice from them? Not me. There are too many examples of complete idiots with degrees from Ivy League schools, so that means absolutely nothing. I am just saying his observations are either blatantly obvious or completely subjective, or both. Also, if you watch any other games, you will see all QBs make plays where their feet are not set, or are doing something else that is not mechanically sound. When it looks like bad throw, it is easy to point that out almost every time. That observation brings nothing to the conversation. The mechanics are on Trubisky and the QB Coach. The HC does not have time to worry about mechanics. Trubisky, in year 4, should not have the same problems year after year. That just points to a bad QB. He is Bortles 2.0. In reality, Bortles is a better QB. He hit 4,400 passing yards his 2nd season with 35 TDs to 18 INTs and rushed for over 300 yds. Trubisky's highs are 3200 passing yards and 24 TDs in his 2nd season. The difference has been Bortles played on some terrible teams with no defense while Trubisky was carried by the defense.

On A-Rob, I am assuming he thinks he is going to get hit, so he just jumps and hits the ground. On a few of those, there was no need to. He also literally ran out of bounds a yard short with the defender on the ground. I don't know how he doesn't pick that 1st down up. You are correct on Pace, and there are just too many examples. Miller never lived up to his trade and draft status, while others around him are now elite (McLaurin, Metcalf, etc). Mooney is ok as a WR3, but he is a WR2 on the Bears. ARob is a great possession guy, but he literally gave away 2 balls that turned into INTs. Kmet, even though he scored is a bust so far, he is on pace to have less production than Shaheen in his rookie year while his college teammate Claypool, who the Bears could've drafted tears it up every week. The O-Line is looking better but is still a bottom-10 unit. The plays on the field are mainly due to Trubisky's inability to read the defense and dissect the play. If you watch 95% of his passes are to his first read, he is going there regardless. He has some of the worst mechanics and has zero touch. There is no way he ever gets better than this, it just is who he is as a player. There is no way he is back. The defense is now the most overpaid and overrated unit in the league. Mack and Quinn are the highest-paid OLB duo and now are in the bottom half of the league in terms of production. Fuller and Johnson's play has really dropped off and the Safeties are terrible. Jackson looks like he avoiding contact now. Outside of one tackle, Skrine sucks. Roquan is about the only one I would keep. All the others can be traded. Hicks is getting old and is barely noticeable anymore. It is really a sad state of affairs right now. Pace is the first to go, but he needs to take Phillips, Nagy, and Pagano with him. Take Ragone too. It is truly a clown show.

Wanna know what is even crazier, the Bears are still only 1 game out of the 7th playoff spot (now held by MIN). They would have to win out at this point, but 9-7 will more than likely be enough for that spot. ARZ keeps losing and now SF is in the mix.

Holy crap, I can't believe my original post was from November 1st. It's crazy that it's literally the same old song and dance every week. What a shit show. How is this guy still employed? Let him say his goodbyes in the locker room tonight and announce he is gone tomorrow. Same with Pagano and Pace. They have to go. There is no point waiting until the end of the year. Let Lazor run the offense, an Asst get experience as DC and put Defilipo as Interim HC.

Yeah, NE and SF hadn't won yet when I posted that last week. Depending on how SOS plays out (best SOS is considered the better team) we can end up between 11-14 this week. All 3 teams behind us have tough matchups, but if the Giants can beat the Seahawks, anything is possible. We are still only a game out from the 7th pick with 4 games left. 1. NYJ 0-12 2. JAX 1-11 3. CIN 2-9-1 4. LAC 3-9 5. DAL 3-8 TNF 6. PHI 3-8-1 ----------- 7. ATL 4-8 8. HOU 4-8 9. CAR 4-8 10. WAS 4-7 MNF 11. DEN 4-7 SNF 12. DET 5-7 13. CHI 5-7 14. SF 5-6 MNF

1. NYJ 0-11 2. JAX 1-9 3. CIN 2-8-1 4. LAC 3-9 5. DAL 3-8 TNF 6. PHI 3-8-1 ----------- 7. ATL 4-8 8. HOU 4-8 9. CAR 4-8 10. WAS 4-7 MNF 11. DEN 4-7 SNF 12. DET 5-6 13. CHI 5-6 14. SF 5-6 MNF We gained at least one spot with the loss and could make it all the way to 10-12 this week.

They have to be fired, there is no point keeping them around. If I was this bad at my job I would've been fired weeks ago. Complete incompetence.

Fire everyone. If Pace, Nagy, and Pagano survive this, we are doomed forever. Most underachieving team in my lifetime (45+ years).

For the Orlovsky review, it is easy to do the same thing for every QB in the league. The difference are the playmakers on the other side. Do you know how many times Mahomes has thrown a ball that was short, behind, ahead of the target and yet the receiver (Hill, Kelce, Hardiman, Watson, etc) make a ridiculous catch, then get huge YAC. Orlovsky was a main component of the 0-16 Lions, so his voice only carries so much weight. Do you want some guy doing your investments who graduated with an MBA, was hired at Schwab, then fired a few later for being terrible at his job giving you investment advice?

Look what Fox did in Denver. He made it work with Tebow and got a playoff win against the Steelers. That was impressive. I think he was handed a pile of crap post Emery/Trestman and was then the easy scapegoat after 3 years. Just think if he was in on the draft in 2017, he liked Watson, and was blindsided by the Trubisky move. We could've had Watson + those draft picks back, which could've been an O-Lineman. He might still be coaching the team with Fangio as the D-Coordinator if that happened.

I believe Tannehill was coming off of injury in Miami, so I would equate Trubisky's more to Mariota's in LV. He got a 2-yr $17.6M deal but as a backup. If Mitch is expected to start, I can see it being somewhere in the $15-20M range. My hope is it's more of a bridge deal 2-3yrs, at about $10-$12M per year with a voidable year at the end. Taysom Hill signed a 1=yr $16.3M contract with the Saints as a backup; Brissett signed for 2/$30M with the Colts. Those were both backup contracts. I think Trubisky lands very close to those deals.

With the teams the Bears play, there is actually a lot better chance than 5%. The worst game will be Minnesota on the road, but besides that game, DET and HOU at home, and then JAX in some nice Florida weather, then GB at home to finish it out. I would say there is more like a 38.7% chance he looks better than any QB we have seen this year outside of Foles in the last 20 mins against ATL. Even if he plays well, I just don't see how Mitch ends up on this team in 2021. Salary is a huge issue. If Nagy and Pace stay, do they want Mitch back? If they both are gone, will the new regime want Trubisky in a new system? Can the fanbase accept another Trubisky contract? I feel bad for him because you can tell he is a good kid and someone you want to root for but for whatever reason it just hasn't clicked. It didn't help that he spent his first year under the tutelage of Loggains, then switched to a completely dysfunctional offensive scheme that never fit the personnel in Nagy's system. Looks like a cold one today, light wind though, so that is good. We will see what Lions team shows up. I assume they are going to play hard for their interim coach and it has been a long time since the Bears have lost 6 in a row. We lost 5 in a row once in the Fox 3 years, but never 6. To me, that is an immediate firing offense.