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With the teams the Bears play, there is actually a lot better chance than 5%. The worst game will be Minnesota on the road, but besides that game, DET and HOU at home, and then JAX in some nice Florida weather, then GB at home to finish it out. I would say there is more like a 38.7% chance he looks better than any QB we have seen this year outside of Foles in the last 20 mins against ATL. Even if he plays well, I just don't see how Mitch ends up on this team in 2021. Salary is a huge issue. If Nagy and Pace stay, do they want Mitch back? If they both are gone, will the new regime want Trubisky in a new system? Can the fanbase accept another Trubisky contract? I feel bad for him because you can tell he is a good kid and someone you want to root for but for whatever reason it just hasn't clicked. It didn't help that he spent his first year under the tutelage of Loggains, then switched to a completely dysfunctional offensive scheme that never fit the personnel in Nagy's system. Looks like a cold one today, light wind though, so that is good. We will see what Lions team shows up. I assume they are going to play hard for their interim coach and it has been a long time since the Bears have lost 6 in a row. We lost 5 in a row once in the Fox 3 years, but never 6. To me, that is an immediate firing offense.

Fox was the scapegoat. He had a mess to clean up his first year, Cutler injured in year 2, then had Glennon/Trubisky in year 3. Not many coaches are going to succeed in that situation. The Bears went 14-34 under him, but 20 losses were within 8pts or less. If they win half of those, they are 24-24 under him and it looks like a completely different team.

Based on how the Bears play against these teams, I think they will go 3-1 in the next 4 and head into Week 17 at 8-7, then will probably beat the GB 3rd stringers and miss the playoffs by a tie breaker at 9-7 with Arizona.

Oh, if it's Pace, you absolutely avoid QB. He has no ability to evaluate that position. It can't be him. He got a pass with John Fox, but he should still be held accountable for those years.

Going into the final week of the regular season, we still have 9 teams vying for 6 playoff spots, a very competitive year. So far Run Dem Pockets (1), The Bunny (2), Corona Kings (3), and SAVAGEw/LOOSEMORALS! (4) have clinched a playoff berth. That leaves the following teams competing for the last two playoff spots in the final week of the regular season: 5. The Mad Lithuanians* (technically they are in barring some crazy scores since they have the Pts For Tie Breaker against any of the remaining teams) 6. MotM 7. PapaBear 8. Nopper 9. Nips&Tips Even though Victorious Secret has been eliminated, they are on a 2-game win streak, trying to end the season on a high note. Every game this week has playoff implications for a playoff berth or seeding, which is pretty rare. Good luck to all the GMs and thanks for the patience with all the COVID complications this year.

Huge game for draft position. A loss keeps a top 10 pick in play, a win and we are looking at a pick around 15. After losses to MIN and GB, a loss to DET at home would have to be the final swing of the hammer on the nail in the coffin for Nagy and Pace. So we have a few things to be hopeful for in a loss. A win won't even feel like a win at this point. Unfortunately, these are the games the Bears win. So I expect a win, 20-16 in an ugly one.

Mongo, I am tracking everything you are saying, and I agree that not many QBs would do much in this offense or behind this O-Line, but I wouldn't want to pass on one who is a potential franchise QB. You can still sit the rookie QB while you build the team up, but don't pass on one with the hope that one will be there in the future.

Great question. I wouldn't make a move just to use up your waiver priority if there isn't a need, especially one you can use over multiple weeks. Akers seems like the best bet to at least provide weekly points, even in a RBBC backfield and Murray will always give you 5-6 pts at a minimum week in and week out. If Samuel is available, he probably has the highest upside and will be heavily targeted in SF's offense. So if I had to choose one guy out of those 3, it would be Samuel.

Come on Mongo. Name all the All-Pro and HoFers for Brady, Brees, Peyton, Big Ben, Ryan, Stafford, or Favre on the O-Line. They had some good lines some years, but not all or not any historically great lines. Favre, Brady, Big Ben all have over 500 sacks against. You can add Rivers to that list soon too. Brady has historically had no-name receivers. Look at what Manning's receivers did when they played with another QB. They have each had a few, but the constant has been them, not their O-Lines or Receivers. It's a team game and they are going to get some good players next to them, and when they did, that's when the magic happens. A great QB with at least a good team is a SB contender. A great O-Line with a good team looks like Indy right now. A good playoff team, but won't go far in the playoffs. If O-line was the #1 factor, MIN, TEN, CLE, NE, and JAX would be the top 5 teams in the league as they have the best O-Lines in the league. PIT is 10-0 and has the 4th worst O-Line in the league: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/foplus/dvoa-database/basic-offensive-defensive-line-stats?year=2020&offense_defense=offense I am not saying O-Line is not important, and I would not be opposed to drafting O-Line early and often in all drafts, but without the competent QB, the line doesn't matter.

Brady, Brees, Peyton, Big Ben, Matt Ryan, Stafford, Favre, Marino, Elway, Montana?

The true franchise guys can overcome bad O-Line, bad receivers, etc. The next tier needs help, then the bottom tier fails regardless of the situation. If you have a middle tier guy, you can win with a decent team around him (Eli Manning), but a bad QB needs a historically great team to have a chance (Dilfer). The teams you see as consistent contenders have great QBs. Gotta hit on QB and make that the priority every off season until you find one. Then build.

I agree to an extent, but Watson had a horrible situation in Houston where he was running for his life half the time, but he is still elite. Wilson has had some of the worse offensive lines in the league for years, yet there he is year in and year out making plays. Mahomes would be no different. If you need great players around you to be great, you're not great. A great QB actually makes the entire offense better and is more valuable than any other single player on the team. Once you have one of those guys, you build around him. It's much harder to do it the other way around because who knows when you will find that guy? That is a huge unknown variable. Indy is going that route right now. They have a young, talented roster with an old QB. They are never going to be bad enough with that talent to get a top 15 pick, so what do they do? So if you get a top 10 pick and a top QB is available, you have to take your shot because who knows when you will be back there.

Very true. We don't have the right players for the scheme. Mack and Quinn dropping into coverage is a waste. I saw a stat that said the Bears played off the receivers farther than they have all season, allowing for easy underneath and crossing patterns all night long. So odd.

Game plan was to throw at Skrine and Trevathan regardless of the receiver. Look at the stats, those guys were heavily targeted throughout the game. The double face mask no-call on the Trubisky fumble was icing on the cake. I forgot how bad the officiating was due to how bad the team looked. What's crazy is if they call a penalty for a face mask on the Trubisky fumble, give the ball back to the Bears, and they end up scoring a TD on that drive, it's 20-17 at halftime, not 27-10. Who knows how the game turns out then.

It seemed like every pass was against Skrine. I have no clue how many receptions he let up, but I know it was a lot. He ended with 13 tackles, which is insane for a DB. He had 14 over the last 3 games. To me the weakest links on the team were Coward on offense and Skrine on defense. Teams will continue to just slide their targets into the slot, run any route, then blindly throw the ball there against Skrine and 90% of the time it's a reception. If you watched the game, that was happening a lot. That was their game plan and Pagano didn't adjust.

It is crazy to think Monty ran for over 100 yards, Trubisky threw 3 TDs and the Bears were down 41-10 entering the 4th quarter.

I don't think you take anything off the table, especially when drafting a QB. We already have 2x solid O-Linemen in Whitehair and Daniels. Mustipher actually looks pretty good and Bars is an upgrade over Coward. If you draft a guy and bring in an FA, you are pretty solid on the O-Line going into 2021. If a QB is there at 11-12, and he has a first round grade, you take him. Remember where Mahomes and Watson were selected. All those teams in the top 10 had to a chance to pick either of them but passed. Cleveland drafted Garrett 1st, passed on Mahomes and Watson, then drafted Mayfield #1 the following year. They could've went Mahomes in 2017, Quentin Nelson in 2018 instead of Garrett/Mayfield, then drafted Chubb instead of Ward at #4. No one talks about that.

Yeah, it shows that they have only been winning against the bad teams and losing against the good teams. That is how you end up at 13-14. On the flip side, they have played the toughest schedule per DVOA this year (2.1% ahead of #2 CAR, which is a lot) and had the 6th toughest in 2019. In 2018, at 12-4, they played against the 2nd easiest DVOA schedule. So this team is very schedule dependent and that has played out this year to a T. So I expect a few more wins against the likes of HOU, JAX, and DET with losses from MIN and GB to end at 7-9.

I will say this again, Pace and Nagy are like those guys who think they are the smartest guys in the room and they know better than everyone else, but are actually idiots who have no clue what they are doing, but too stupid to see it. A random simulator could've drafted better than Pace has since he arrived. Everyone praised him for Jackson, but look how he has played after he got paid, mediocre at best, not like a top 5 Safety. He has whiffed time and time again on QBs, and some other terrible free agents (Quinn, Sims, etc). Trubisky is gone, there is no way he signs back with this team after being "blind-sided" by the benching. Also, he is still a one-read QB. Those INTs into triple coverage show he is going with the pre-snap read regardless of the coverage. He still even runs out of bounds of a sack instead of launching it into the stands for an incompletion. Every QB knows to do this except him apparently. I don't believe there is any dead money if you trade them as the new team takes on the entire contract, but I am sure some teams would want the Bears to retain some salary. So much for player leadership, where was Danny T, Mack, Fuller, Jackson, Smith, all the leaders on the defense. How do you let that happen? That was one of the most embarrassing games I have seen in a long time.

The HC is responsible for instilling that pride and motivating the team. He clearly is not a good motivator of men. He rode Fangio's coattails to 12-4 in 2018 and is now 13-14 without him. Do you know the Bears have only won 2 games against teams with winning records since the start of 2019 (TB this year and MIN last year when they rested all their starters in Week 17). Also, 11 of the 13 wins have been by 7 pts or less.

One bright side to that loss, we gained some ground on a top 10 pick. The Bears are now 1 game out of the #8 pick and 1.5 games out of the #7 pick with 5 games to play. I don't expect the Chargers to keep losing, Carolina looks like a strong team, Washington is playing better with Smith at QB, Atlanta just blew the doors off the Raiders, Houston is playing some good ball and Denver was playing decent when they had an actual QB play. Those teams will all have more wins than the Bears by the end of the year. I think the only game the Bears win is against Jacksonville and end up at 6-10. That should be good enough for pick 8-10, which should be in reach of a QB. 1. NYJ 0-11 2. JAX 1-10 3. CIN 2-8-1 4. DAL 3-8 5. LAC 3-8 6. PHI 3-7-1 ----------- 7. CAR 4-8 8. WAS 4-7 9. DET 4-7 10. ATL 4-7 11. HOU 4-7 12. DEN 4-7 13. CHI 5-6 14. MIN 5-6 15. NE 5-6 16. SF 5-6 Looking at the teams to guarantee to be ahead of the Bears, the Jets and the Jags are going QB. Then the others would be PHI and WAS possibly. Carolina has Bridgewater, Chargers have Herbert, Bengals have Burrow. So the Bears will for sure get no better than the #3 QB in the draft. If there is no one worthy of that pick in the top 10, go OLine.

Oh, I agree. A win would be shocking, in GB in prime time. I just feel bad for Trubisky. After how bad Foles played for so many weeks, he probably should've been starting again a few weeks ago, but then got hurt. So now he gets his chance in the most pivotal game of the season. A win and the playoffs are a reality at 6-5 and the division is still in reach (w/ tie breaker), and a loss and the season is over. With a loss, they would be a game away from a top 7 pick at 5-6 (7 teams have 4 wins).

Shaheen got one too. Shaheen now has 3 TDs on the season on only 7 receptions.

So after how bad the Bears have played in the last month, with the Cards loss this week against NE, the Bears could slide back into the playoff picture as the #7 seed with a win tonight AND would then be only one game back in the Division w/ the tie breaker against GB AND only a half game back from TB as the #6 seed w/ the tie breaker as well.

I second the bag of dicks,lol. BTW, Mike Freaking Glennon has the 1-9 Jaguars in the lead against the Browns in the 3rd Quarter with 2 TDs and is on pace for a 300-yd passing game w/o Chark.