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What else do you need to see on Nagy? There is zero accountability in that locker room and it is clear the defense has gotten lazy since Fangio left. The penalties, missed tackles, missed assignments, wrong routes, etc, are all indicators of bad coaching. Do you know what else is? Halftime adjustments. No team was as bad as the Bears in the 3rd quarter because Nagy doesn't have the answers. Where were the adjustments? Do you know how many times he said he didn't see the play because he was too busy looking at his play sheet? To me it is clear he is over his head on all of this and is best suited at the position coach level. He is not an offensive mastermind if you haven't noticed. Trestman ran a better offense. He was brought in to fix the offense and it got worse. He couldn't develop a QB and may have actually made Trubisky worse. The players like Nagy but no one is held accountable. Wims should've been cut after what he did. Furrey should've been fired too. Then Miller does almost the same thing in a playoff game against the same player. The dude is talking smack, just walk away. It's unbelievable. How about benching some guys for their performances? How can you watch Eddie Jackson avoid contact on every snap, then jump offsides like he was going to blow up some run? You allow your defense to play 12 yards off on 3rd and 5 and never question your DC on that? This is not rocket science and these guys are not PhDs in their fields. There is too much data out there now on trends and schemes that it's almost hard to be this bad on offense. That is exactly what we see week in and week out. Our offense looks like they are playing defensively and trying to prevent a turnover. I am ok with Nagy getting one more year due to his contract situation and the hope they reset in 2021 with the cap. Then bring in a real HC to start with a clean slate. After 3 years, besides the smoke and mirrors 2018, this team has played sub .500 ball and the coach has to shoulder that blame.

I have been watching this team since the late 70's, and ever since I got NFL Game Pass, I have watched the last 5-6 year's games multiple times. If you look at my posts, I try to be as optimistic and realistic as possible. I have seen enough to know that Trubisky is a one-read QB. How many more games do you need to see? Go watch the Cleveland game and watch how Mayfield scrambles for a tough first down. He doesn't run out of bounds before the sticks. Trubisky, in his 4th year, is still running out of bounds and taking a sack instead of just lobbing the ball out of bounds. No offense to his intelligence, but those are huge red flags for his competency level. He is still reading his armband on every play. How many more years does he need an armband for every play? Some obscure plays sure, but every play? You can tell he has no clue what he is looking at or for. Most of his throws are his first read and he is going there regardless of the coverage. His QBR for the Wild Card game was 13.1. A league-average QB is 50. Of the other 11 Wild Card QBs, only one was within 36 pts of Trubisky's QBR (Wilson had 17.6). Heinicke, playing for WAS, name their top 3 WRs and TE, I'll wait. He put up a QBR of 63.2 against TB and almost beat Brady. You cannot win anymore without at least a league-average QB and Trubisky is not one and after 4 years he never will be. He has to be in the perfect system with a great O-Line, running game, and great receivers to just be good. Please look at this. I used the same games for Nagy earlier, except have now extended to Trubisky's rookie year to see how he played when the Bears beat a team that ended the season with a winning record. So this looks at Trubisky's contribution to the team's win against a good team. Trubisky has started in 8 games that the Bears beat a winning team in his 4 seasons. He did not have one this year. Just look at his stats, and please tell me why we would want this misery again? His best game was Week 2 against SEA in 2018 when he threw for 200 yards, 200 yards. Think about that for a second. In that game, he threw 2 TDs, which was the only time in 8 games he had more than 1 passing TD. Look at some of those averages, there are some RBs that have better yards per carry than Trubisky has on his passing attempts. This list makes me sick: 2017 Week 6 - BAL 27-24 (8-16, 113 yds, 7.1 AVG, 1 TD, 0 INT) Week 7 - CAR 17-3 (4-7, 107 yds, 15.3 AVG, 0 TD, 0 INT) - 1x 70-yd pass to Cohen 2018 Week 2 - SEA 24-17 (25-34, 200 yds, 5.9 AVG, 2 TD, 2 INT) Week 11 - MIN 25-20 (20-31, 165 yds, 5.3 AVG, 1 TD, 2 INT) Week 14 - LAR 15-6 (16-30, 110 yds, 3.7 AVG, 1 TD, 3 INT) Week 17 - MIN 24-10 (18-26, 163 yds, 6.3 AVG, 0 TD, 0 INT) 2019 Week 4 - MIN 16-6 (2-3, 9 yds, 3.0 AVG, 0 TD, 0 INT) Week 17 - MIN 21-19 (26-37, 207 yds, 5.6 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT) - MIN rested starters 2020 NO WINS AGAINST WINNING TEAMS What more do you need to see?

Also, how can these former QBs not develop young QBs? It must be because both of them sucked as players and they have clearly rubbed that off on Trubisky and Wentz.

3 FA, Foles and high draft pick. Someone like Mullens, Allen, Allen, or Heinicke with Foles and a high draft pick.

I would let the new GM decide Nagy's fate. I still think they need to clean house, including Nagy.

The Bears have only beat 7 teams that ended with a winning record since 2018. 4 of those came against MIN, leaving 3 wins against teams that finished with a winning record. The yearly records correlate perfectly to them beating their schedule. Then you look into how they won those 3 other games. In the Seattle win, they won on a Pick-6 by Prince, against the Rams, Goff literally lost that game and somehow played worse than Trubisky. This year it was Brady forgetting what down it was. In those 7 wins, they only scored over 24 points once and needed great defensive efforts to win 6 of them. Signature Wins: 2018 Week 2 - SEA 24-17 (Amukamara Pick-6) Week 11 - MIN 25-20 Week 14 - LAR 15-6 (Goff 4x INTs and a Safety, Trubisky 110 passing yards and 3 INTs) Week 17 - MIN 24-10 2019 Week 4 - MIN 16-6 Week 17 - MIN 21-19 (MIN rested starters) 2020 Week 5 - TB 20-19 (Brady doesn't know it's 4th Down) What this shows is the entire Nagy era has been smoke and mirrors. They played to their schedule, beat bad teams, owned the Vikings, and basically got lucky. I can't think of another team that has won 28 games in 3 years and this is the list of "big" wins.

The team needs to make 2021 a reset year. Get rid of Phillips, Pace, Lazor, Furrey, Ragone and Pagano at a minimum. If you keep Nagy, tell him he is the HC only and the new OC will run the offense and call plays. Do your best to purge the roster, even consider taking on dead money this year to make 2022 better. If 2021 is going to be a reset year, let Nagy coach it as his final chance. If he doesn't improve, you don't waste a year on a new coach. Cut Leno, Massie, Hicks, Skrine, and Graham. Look to trade Jackson, Fuller, and Mack. The team will probably be stuck with the boat anchors of Quinn, Foles, and Trevathan in 2021, but all will be gone in 2022. You do not resign Trubisky. Let Foles compete with a young FA and rookie. Look at guys like Mullens, Brandon Allen, Kyle Allen and Taylor Heinicke. Sign some mid-level FA WRs like Patrick, Cole, Reynolds, Samuel, or Bourne. All will be upgrades over Miller and Wims. The team will get Cohen back next year, and I assume they will bring Patterson back for another couple of years. They still need another capable RB as Nall is not it. The team is not that far from competing but they need to fix the most important spot on the field in order to take the next step. Draft a QB early, bring in one of the other young QBs, and have them compete with Foles for the starting job next year. The WR room needs an overhaul. Furrey is a bum and the culture in that group needs to change. Wims and Miller are prime examples of that. Wims has more punches than TD catches. Miller got ejected from more playoff games (1) than he has playoff TDs (0). ARob is too passive of a leader. Good possession receiver, but disappeared the last few weeks when the team needed him the most. The interior of the O-Line is a team strength, especially when you get Daniels back. If they can address OT, the line will be at least league average. The defense really need to address safety and edge. I don't know what you do when you can't get a pass rush with Mack. Obviously Quinn is a liability, but maybe you only bring him in on obvious passing downs. I am almost thinking the team is better suited for a 4-3. I know that most plays are in sub packages, but you have a different type of LB in a 4-3 vs 3-4.

I would be perfectly fine if they just outright cut Jackson. He is the 2nd highest paid safety in the league and is completely worthless. He avoids contact, just runs around the field near plays watching others make the tackle. Then when you know they are trying to get you to jump, you jump offsides and gift them more points. He was on the coverage for a TD pass against and his penalty gave the Saints more points. Between him, Wims, and some questionable officiating, and that's the ballgame.

Miller and Wims need to go. Robinson is gone. You are going to have to draft one early and bring in a couple of FAs. Here are some free agent WRs: 50+ receptions: JuJu, Samuel, Jones, Davis, Godwin, Hilton, Cole, Fuller, Reynolds, Patrick 40+ reception: Bourne, Agholor, Green, Byrd, Pascal, Conley Patrick, Cole, and Reynolds should not command a ton of money but all were productive. All would be upgrades over Miller and a slight downgrade from ARob. However, if you can get one of these from each group, and draft one in the first few rounds, then you might actually have a better group than this year.

Kamara against Woods or Iggy? Good luck with that. Manti Te'o revenge game? The only way we have a chance is with some defensive turnovers and a score on defense or special teams. We are going to need to outscore them with how bad our defense is playing. Someone needs to mirror Kamara everywhere, and when Hill is in the game, you know a run off tackle or on the edge is coming. Just fill the damn gap!

You nailed it, it is all of them. Pace, Nagy, Trubisky, and the O-Line (main culprits of Massey, Leno, and Coward). In defense of Trubisky, how can he take a shot when the receivers aren't running any deep routes, or if they do and are bracketed with safeties over the top? Pace made the biggest and initial error drafting Trubisky, then hiring Nagy who can't develop an offense with the players he has. It has been square peg and round hole since. Pagano is the same way. The DBs don't play 12 yards off a receiver on a 3rd and 7 because they want to. That is the scheme. We saw a few flashes of the offense working with Foles and Trubisky. I wonder if we will see Foles if Trubisky starts off bad?

Poll results look like it is flipping me the bird.

Robinson's, see the trend, all the routes are short, so Trubisky's percentage for deep balls is going to be dependent on a very small sample size:

Mooney's route tree vs GB:

What if Trubisky just needed glasses or Lasik? That's why he can't see all those defenders past 10-15 yards.

A lot of QBs struggle with the deep ball.

A weird stat, the Saints are 12-4 and have only beaten one winning team (TB twice). The Bears are 8-8 and only beat one winning team (TB once). So these teams may be closer than we think. I still don't think the Bears have a chance without Roquan as Kamara will just run some bubble screens all day long for 15-20 yard gains. The only chance the Bears have is if Thomas doesn't play and the Bears can hold Kamara to under 100 total yards. If he gets 150+ yards again, it's game over.

What's funny is Houston is basically in the situation we would be in if we acquired him. They have an aging defense and no early draft picks due to some bad trades. So if the Bears somehow pulled off a trade, they would have to give up so much that we would look just like Houston does now, with Watson, and not much else. The crazy part is even with a new GM and HC, they are still years away from competing. They have TEN and IND in their division who are going to be good for the foreseeable future AND Jacksonville, who will have the #1 pick and a ton of draft capital to reset.

So these are the QBs closest to Trubisky in terms of stats with a few years of playing time. Some are just as polarizing for their fanbases, some have lost their jobs, and some are expected not to be back with their teams. We all know 99.9% of the people would take guys like Mahomes, Watson, Burrow, Herbert, Allen over Trubisky, but I was curious to see what people thought about other QBs in Trubisky's tier. I didn't include the older guys as they have a shorter remaining career. All these guys have 10+ years left in the league. I personally feel like Goff is solely a product of McVay and would already be a backup on any other team. Wentz's great play for 10 games a few years ago was obviously a fluke as he has been the worst starter in the league this year. For all the hype around Mayfield, unless things are perfect around him, he struggles mightily, so it is hard to get a read on how good he really is. Then you have Darnold, put on the worst team in the league with no O-Line or weapons on offense and got sacked week in and week out. I have no idea how good he is. However, I don't think any of these QBs could come to the Bears and make them better than they are right now.

Poll Time, pick a QB from this tier based on what you know about their teams.

Yeah, if he is hired the Bears would get an extra 3rd Round Comp pick in 2021 AND 2022, which would be huge. My assumption is that he would be considered for the Bears job if Pace is let go.

It feels like a bad scheme with players not knowing or doing their jobs. That equates to what we see on the field. They are not playing as a unit.

I just thought about this, what the hell happened to the "Adjustor"? Remember when Nagy said Burton was the Adjustor and everything keyed off him on the offense? Who is the adjustor in this offense? No one really plays that role which makes the offense feel very clunky. I think when you add Trubisky to a clunky offense, you get exactly what we see every week. So if Nagy comes back, I don't think Trubisky will be back. Cap will play a role in this decision too.

GB played Cover-3 a ton taking away most throws between 10-20 yards by having 3 DBs in that area in addition to the DBs playing man. They forced all throws to go underneath or be contested between 10-20 yards. If you notice that any throws over 10 yards probably had 2 or more DBs in close proximity. The game plan did not take advantage of this defensive scheme. Cover-3 is easy to beat and exploit, yet Nagy/Lazor didn't attack it. They were very passive. The 4th Down rollout was a perfect example where they had only one option. Trubisky's biggest issue is thinking on the fly. He just throws the ball where it is called regardless of the defense. He has to be able to see that the play is not there and move to other reads. He just throws it. That is frustrating, especially when someone like Josh Allen can improve by changing his mechanics in the offseason. Trubisky ended the year with a higher QBR than Roethlisberger, Goff, Burrow, Dalton, Minshew, Tua, Wentz, Lock, Newton, Dalton, and Foles. His last 4 games QBR: 85.9, 81.9, 63.3, and 63.6. That run matches his best stretch of any in his career. He has only had one other 4 game stretch with a QBR of 60 or higher (in 2018 TB, MIA, NE, and NYJ, team went 2-2 in those games). Trubisky also had his highest career QB Rating at 93.5, a 2:1 TD:INT Ratio and his highest completion pct at 67%.

Bears DVOA 12/14 Offense DVOA 13/14 Defense DVOA 7/14 Saints DVOA 1/14 Offense DVOA 7/14 Defense DVOA 2/14 So we are playing a team that is technically better/more efficient than GB, at their home, and they have done this in a season without their starting QB, #1 WR, and #1 RB, and all of them may be playing on Sunday. I wouldn't be surprised if NO is resting their players by halftime for their real playoff matchup the following weekend. Rewatching the GB game makes me sick. On every defensive play, there is something ridiculous going on, especially the pass plays. Defenders would peel off their receiver to stop and guard an empty part of the field while their guy runs wide open. Jackson is covering Adams and starts backpedaling before the snap until there is 15 yards of cushion. He was so far away that Fuller makes the tackle off of his guy. What the hell is this. On a Jones run on the first drive, Trevathan literally doesn't move until Jones is in the hole. It looked like a broken game controller. The entire line passes him by before he reacts and Roquan, who is actually on the other side of him gets to Jones before he does. So bizarre. If Trevathan is in his gap, Jones is stopped near the LOS. On that first drive, Shelley got a DPI on Adams which basically gifted them a TD since it was a 4th Down play. What I don't understand is why they wouldn't put Fuller on Adams (who is standing right next to Shelley) who was guarding Jones?