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Draft two players or positions to nail round 2 if we cannot trade down
adam replied to ASHKUM BEAR's topic in Bearstalk
To me, he has to be in the perfect system to excel. He is a one-read QB, which is fine, but limited. He is an athlete that plays QB. He has never really been an elite QB. He couldn't win the starting job at NC, and he used his athleticism to make plays there. He has the physical ability to make some elite plays, but just doesn't have the processing speed to make those split second decisions that are needed. He makes up for that with his arm strength, but that is too inconsistent to bet on. -
Yeah, the deal is $8M with incentives up to $14M, but still nothing compared to the original numbers. This makes the deal for a 4th much easier to understand. The Bears traded cap space for the draft pick. Clearly in a win now mode for 2020 and 2021.
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Yeah, that makes sense, and I would be happy with that too.
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What do you think? I would be ok with this draft. 43. BEARS (LAV)—S Kyle Dugger, Lenoir-Rhyne 50. BEARS—TE Cole Kmet, Notre Dame 163. BEARS—IOL Darryl Williams, Miss. State 196. BEARS—OT Jon Runyan, Michigan 200. BEARS (PHI)—RB DeeJay Dallas, Miami 226. BEARS (LAV)—CB Harrison Hand, Temple 233. BEARS—CB Grayland Arnold, Baylor https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884272-2020-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-post-free-agency-predictions#slide38
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Tony Jefferson is still out there. Based on the uncertainty going on, I assume some players will want to sign contracts (to get signing bonus = immediately paid) sooner, rather than later.
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It will definitely be interesting if they don't postpone it altogether. It will be interesting to see what teams do in states that have stay at home orders. They are definitely non-essential personnel, so no draft rooms packed with people. After the extension of the social distancing thru 30 APR, I think the league will have to postpone it until at least May. What do you think? How can teams meet at work if they are deemed non-essential?
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Draft two players or positions to nail round 2 if we cannot trade down
adam replied to ASHKUM BEAR's topic in Bearstalk
https://www.chicagobears.com/news/bears-trade-down-twice-draft-whitehair-17087423 The Bears chose Whitehair after trading down twice in the second round, dropping a total of 15 spots to acquire three fourth-round picks, two this year and one in the future. First, they sent the No. 41 pick to the Bills in exchange for the No. 49 selection plus fourth-round choices this year (No. 117) and next year. The Bears then traded the No. 49 pick to the Seahawks for the No. 56 choice and a fourth-round selection (No. 124). -
That too, Pace knows what Graham can do with the right QB and system.
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Here is how I see the differences from what I have read: 1. Graham - older, more accomplished, trending downward, but more consistent, signing doesn't impact comp picks, contract is essentially a one-year deal for $6M w/ an out and $3M dead money next year. Last year's numbers: 38-447, 3 TDs, and only 2 drops. Only 5 drops in last 2 seasons. 2. Ebron - younger, less accomplished, very inconsistent, drops a ton of passes, signing would impact comp picks (I believe was important consideration), contract is essentially a one-year deal for $3.5M w/ an out and $2.5M dead money next year. Last year's numbers: 31-375. 3 TDs, 5 drops. 14 drops in last 2 seasons. Also, Ebron coming off ankle surgery, has not played since. So he was a comp pick question mark, and injury question mark, a consistency question mark with a history of drops, but younger. So I could see why Graham was enticing, though older, they needed to get a constant at that position. He is much more reliable and can stabilize the TE position for a year or two. Ebron had too many question marks and though slightly cheaper, probably didn't provide the same level of confidence that Graham did.
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I mean he signed with the Bears after playing with the Packers. So I am sure he has something to prove. I think he still has some years left in the tank. At this point almost anything is better than what we had last year. If we can get 50-600 with 5 TDs, that would be huge for this offense as we had literally nothing from that position last year. Also, one other thing to note. Graham is one of the best seam TE's in the league, something we have not had since Olsen. That should open up some things for the WRs and RBs because a Safety will have to defend over the top against that. I can see Miller, Monty, and Cohen really benefitting from that threat.
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Ware makes a lot of sense, especially if this virus stuff drags on into the summer.
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I believe the following players could be traded in the offseason: 1. Trubisky 2. Burton 3. Leno 4. Massie 5. Cohen 6. Shaheen 7. Braunecker Crazy to think they all are on the offensive side of the ball. We really need to draft there more often.
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Yeah, good catch, Bray back in the fray. QB (3): +Foles, Trubisky, Bray (-Daniel) RB (3): Montgomery, Cohen, +Nall (-Davis, Whyte) WR (5): Robinson, Miller, Patterson, Ridley, Wims (-Gabriel) TE (9): Burton, Shaheen, Braunecker, +Holtz, +Horsted, +Raymond, +Harris, +Graham, +Saubert (-Sowell) OL (10): Leno, Whitehair, Daniels, Massie, Coward, +Bars, +Levin, +Boyd, +Mustipher, +Ifedi (-Long, Larsen, Lucas) DL (6): Hicks, Goldman, Nichols, Robertson-Harris, Anderson, +Urban (-Williams) OLB (5): Mack, +Quinn, Irving, +Mingo, +Vaughters (-Floyd, Lynch) ILB (5): Trevathan, Smith, Iyiegbuniwe, Woods, +Bond (-Kwiatkoski, Pierre-Louis) CB (8): Fuller, Skrine, Toliver, Shelley, +Roberson, +Burns, +Brice, +Denmark (-Amukamara) S (4): Jackson, Bush, Houston-Carson, +Lucas (-Clinton-Dix, McManis) ST (3): Pineiro, O'Donnell, Scales
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Seattle replaced him with Shell, who was only slightly better than Ifedi (per PFF), and Shell got $5.5M AV for 2 years. So it will be interesting to see what Ifedi got. If he get anything less than $5M, then it's a pretty good deal for a guy with a lot of experience. Maybe he would play better at RG than RT. https://12thmanrising.com/2020/03/18/seahawks-reshape-offensive-line/
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Another former first rounder, has been up and down but should come in and compete for RG position.
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The play calling doesn't get enough of the blame, but it seems that Nagy tailored it to what Mitch could handle. There were a lot of times you could see the WRs were frustrated. There were a lot of missed opportunities last year. Monty is fine, but we definitely can use another solid RB to compliment him better. Cohen is too gimmicky for me and unless he improves, I could see him gone after 2020.
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The problem for Mitch is all above the shoulders. Nice kid, great athlete, but he can't process anything on the fly. Maybe he will figure it out, but as many have pointed it out, if you haven't figured it out by now, chances are you won't. Also, he has gotten the bulk of the first team reps for 3 years and that didn't help. So I don't know how limited reps is going to help his growth at this point. I know some say it is useful to watch and learn, but that's before you learn bad habits. Rarely does it work the other way around.
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Yeah, Bars would be great. It would be nice if Massie and Leno were at least average. I think if we ran the ball more, it would help the entire O-Line.
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Cam Newton being released....
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Holtz back on the roster according to Bears website, he was not there the other day: QB (2): +Foles, Trubisky (-Daniel) RB (3): Montgomery, Cohen, +Nall (-Davis, Whyte) WR (5): Robinson, Miller, Patterson, Ridley, Wims (-Gabriel) TE (9): Burton, Shaheen, Braunecker, +Holtz, +Horsted, +Raymond, +Harris, +Graham, +Saubert (-Sowell) OL (9): Leno, Whitehair, Daniels, Massie, Coward, +Bars, +Levin, +Boyd, +Mustipher (-Long, Larsen, Lucas) DL (6): Hicks, Goldman, Nichols, Robertson-Harris, Anderson, +Urban (-Williams) OLB (5): Mack, +Quinn, Irving, +Mingo, +Vaughters (-Floyd, Lynch) ILB (5): Trevathan, Smith, Iyiegbuniwe, Woods, +Bond (-Kwiatkoski, Pierre-Louis) CB (8): Fuller, Skrine, Toliver, Shelley, +Roberson, +Burns, +Brice, +Denmark (-Amukamara) S (4): Jackson, Bush, Houston-Carson, +Lucas (-Clinton-Dix, McManis) ST (3): Pineiro, O'Donnell, Scales We have an official logjam at TE. I can't see them adding another this offseason, too many bodies. The issue is that they can only have a 90 man roster and 10% are TE's? Something has to give there. I know a few of the lower end guys will drop off, but that still leaves a few others to deal with.
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Seem like a pretty good bunch of guys (except for the one asking about welding plastic), but you can tell they haven't seen good football in a long time lol.
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QB (2): +Foles, Trubisky (-Daniel) RB (3): Montgomery, Cohen, +Nall (-Davis, Whyte) WR (5): Robinson, Miller, Patterson, Ridley, Wims (-Gabriel) TE (8): Burton, Shaheen, Braunecker, +Horsted, +Raymond, +Harris, +Graham, +Saubert (-Sowell) OL (9): Leno, Whitehair, Daniels, Massie, Coward, +Bars, +Levin, +Boyd, +Mustipher (-Long, Larsen, Lucas) DL (6): Hicks, Goldman, Nichols, Robertson-Harris, Anderson, +Urban (-Williams) OLB (5): Mack, +Quinn, Irving, +Mingo, +Vaughters (-Floyd, Lynch) ILB (5): Trevathan, Smith, Iyiegbuniwe, Woods, +Bond (-Kwiatkoski, Pierre-Louis) CB (8): Fuller, Skrine, Toliver, Shelley, +Roberson, +Burns, +Brice, +Denmark (-Amukamara) S (4): Jackson, Bush, Houston-Carson, +Lucas (-Clinton-Dix, McManis) ST (3): Pineiro, O'Donnell, Scales Added Urban and DHC back into the mix. We are bringing back a big chunk of the roster. Technically only Long, Floyd, Amukamara, and HHC were the only starters lost from last season's opening day roster. Floyd has been replaced by Quinn, it looks like Prince has been replaced by committee, and it looks like we still need to address RG and SS at some point. Lucas may be the answer at SS, but I am still thinking they will do more there.
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Ok, getting some Safeties back in play. Also, our special teams is going to be a huge strength this year.
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yep, just re-signed Urban. Looks like OL, WR, TE, and RB will all be targeted.