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Nagy says "F it" and Trubisky runs in for a TD. Bears going for two.....and an unbelievable sequence occurs, Arob is called for a BS pick away from the play, Bears decided to kick, then get an illegal substitution penalty, then Pineiro misses a 48-yard XP. To his credit, the wind was blowing left to right and he kicked it left, but it never moved an inch right. He needs to just aim and kick dead center. Bears 19-7.

Mack is back, causes a Jones fumble and the offense starts at 1st and Goal.

Trubisky has 250 passing yards (4 from season high), has a season high rushing yards (19), and 7.4 Y/A is only 0.2 from a season high. A 300-yard game and a 2nd TD pass would be a nice finish, and a WIN! Bears up 13-7. I don't like Nagy's play calling near the goal line. He keeps cutting the field in half, which makes it easy for the defense. Keep the entire field open and try to some draws up the middle.

You have to start somewhere I guess. They just need to start putting consecutive scoring drives together.

Holy baby Jesus, a long TD pass to Arob? No penalty? and Pineiro made the XP?

Can anything more go wrong in one game? Now O'Donnell kicks a 13-yard punt, seriously, this is beyond laughable.

We get a 60+ passing play negated by a phantom hands to the face call. We are bad enough without bad officials, but this is ridiculous.

Guess what, another 1st quarter without a score. Shocker.

Braunecker then misses an easy TD catch (he was wide open), then Trubisky throws an INT into the End Zone to kill the drive. This team is just brutal. Ogletree made a better catch in the INT than any of our receivers have made all game.

Based on starting holes or lack of production, we have to address the following positions next year: 3x FA Holes: CB (Prince), S (HHCD), ILB (Trevathan) 3x Performance Holes: TE (Sharton), T (Masso), G (Danward) That would be our 6 picks in the first 5 rounds. Then you can use a 6th on Kicker. Unless someone falls, I don't see the Bears drafting a QB. I heard an interesting thing on the Hoge and Jahns Podcast. What about signing Clayton Thorson off the Dallas PS? We would have to bring him to the 53-man roster, but he would cost the team nothing. He was a 5th round pick in 2019, played 4 seasons at Northwestern, is a local kid out of Wheaton, so he can play in some bad weather. Unfortunately, like any guy on a PS, he is not without flaws (some very similar to Trubisky), but if Nagy thought he could fix Trubisky, maybe he can fix Thorson? What do we have to lose? If not him, I would really consider this option. You can get a young guy with zero risk. If he doesn't work out, you lose nothing.

Right now the Bears are tied for the 12th worst team in the league with CLE and JAX (oh joy). Since we have the toughest SOS, we get the lesser pick (14th) in the first (to OAK) and then the 13th pick in the 2nd, and the 12th pick in the 3rd (to OAK). If the season ended today, we would have the 45th pick in the 2nd round and somewhere around the 52nd pick from the Raiders. Without 3rd and 5th Round picks, the Bears almost have to use one of those to trade down. I would rather use the second one and do something like this: 1. Select #45 2. Trade #52 (OAK) for #60 + late 4th + late 5th 3. Select #60 (from trade) 4. Trade late 4th and Eagles 6th to move up in the 4th 5. Select mid-4th (from trade) 6. Select 4th Round Comp (Amos) 7. Select 5th Round 8. Select 5th Round (from trade) 9. Select 6th Round 10. Select 7th Round This scenario would give us 6 picks in rounds 2-5, where Pace has better success.

Not for that price. He has 20 touches for 117 yards on the season. He got 46 of it on one run. So outside of one big play, he is 19-71 on the year in 10 games. You just can't pay a guy $6M a year for that type of production. Even with the big run, that averages out to 2 touches and 10 yards per game. I know he is big and fast, but that's about it.

Daniels might be salvageable, but he might be playing the worst out of all five. So you have to get at least two new guys on that line at a minimum and a new starting TE. I am sure Floyd won't be back for his price, Prince won't be back, HHCD or Trevathan. So that leaves 4 starter holes on the defense and 3 holes on offense without addressing the QB position. So things are not looking very good with the cap unless Pace can move some of the dead weight guys.

I was wrong, it's $76M with Floyd, and $63M without. Talk about a gut punch. Patterson has $1M in dead money and Gabriel has $2M, so if you take those easy ones away, Fuller, Leno, Burton, Massie, and Skrine account for $51M in cap space or $41M in dead money.

Just look at it this way, in 2020, the Bears have $76M tied up in Fuller, Floyd, Leno, Burton, Massie, Gabriel, Skrine, and Patterson with $44M in dead money if they attempt to cut/release them. Floyd is the only clean out due to his contract only guaranteed for injury. The other 7 have $44M in dead money tied to them. The biggest, Massie at $10.8M in dead money. What the hell was Pace thinking with that contract? Man, I was way, off, edited, from 67 - 76.

You don't pay for bad consistency though. That's where the Bears messed up. Massie was never good or even average, and they paid him like he was. Leno had one good year out of a lot of bad ones and got paid like he had consecutive years of success.

Have you watched Fuller this year? He is the 6th highest paid CB in the league and is not even in the top 50 in terms of coverage ability. He was #2 last year. Talk about falling off a cliff. He is playing below replacement level, meaning you could put a league average CB in his place and the team would be better off.

Ok, I am not in this camp, but I thought it was at least an interesting discussion. I saw this brought up before. Just seeing the effort from the O-Line and then the receivers on the scramble drills (or lack of effort), is it possible that some of these guys are purposely half-assing it to undermine Trubisky? The O-Line (at least everyone except Whitehair who is Mitch's friend) are getting run over to the extent that it's almost purposeful. They can't be this bad. Leno has never played worse. Massie is huge and can't move a guy 50 lbs lighter than him? Daniels who was a promising interior lineman is literally whiffing at dudes a the LOS. When have you seen all receivers just standing on the field while their QB is scrambling for his life? The Bears WR's do it almost every play, they all are stationary or jogging towards the LOS with no effort. It just all seems very odd that so many offensive players could be underachieving at the same time. How about the drops. We were one of the best teams last year in terms of drops and magically we forget how to catch the ball? Another odd anomalous stat. The other scenario was they were undermining Nagy for his ridiculously inept playcalling. What do you think? Any chance this is a silent mutiny against Trubisky or Nagy? I don't think so, but I have seen crazier things in sports.

It is tough, but it all starts up front. It can't be neglected, and what sucks is the Bears threw money at mediocre players. At least put some "outs" in the contracts. Massie and Leno are borderline unmovable unless they can find a trade partner for at least another year. Just watch that video of the Rams game, the entire line outside of Whitehair can't block anyone. They can't even stand in the way, they literally fall down or get pushed aside like they are 100 lbs less than the defender. It's embarrassing. Kyle Long, even though injured, looked completely out of shape in some of the Club Dub videos. Leno has always had work ethic concerns and those have came back to haunt us. I feel like we need to draft one early and late, and get a UDFA, and bring in at least one decent FA. Then make it an open competition in the offseason. Also make these lazy fools play in the preseason.

Just like some of the other position groups (O-Line and TE), I think we need a purge at this position. Keep ARob, but get rid of Gabriel and Miller via trade or just outright cut. Miller seems to have discipline issues, doesn't run the correct routes, is often out of position at the LOS, and seems to generally have a bad attitude. For a 2nd round pick that we traded up for, we should expect more. What is even worse about the Miller pick (and trade up), we could've selected DJ Chark or Michael Gallup, both were available at #51. I like Wims and would love to see some Ridley down the stretch to see what we got. Gabriel is better suited as a #3 than a #2, and is overpriced for his production. With so many needs in other positions, it looks like he will be gone. We also need to get bigger at WR. Gabriel is no longer taking the top off of defenses and is too undersized to help out elsewhere. I would like to see some fresh blood at WR, TE, and OL. I know that is a tall order with the lack of picks and bad contracts, but we need to do something. Staying with this same group will not yield new results.

Yeah, two is our minimum assuming RG (Coward) is an automatic fill. Hopefully it's three.

I know, it seems that it all backfired. We have a ton of dead weight we will need to get rid of in the offseason. We are going to eat some dead money, but it's necessary to clean up this mess.

The video below posted in the other thread (thx BearFan NYC), not many QB's are going to be able to do much with this O-Line. Trubisky is still at fault, but man, these guys suck. Daniels needs to ride the pine. He can't even slow down rushers, and can't move a defender an inch in the run game. Massie is a huge dude, how can he not move people? It's mind-boggling. Leno is a drive-killing penalty waiting to happen. They can't run block or pass block. Trubisky rarely has a clean pocket and when he does, the receivers are not open, run the wrong route, drop the pass, or he misses on the throw. It's a like series of negative outcomes that at least one is guaranteed to happen on every play. This is the Bears offensive script: Pre-snap penalty > missed block > receivers not open > run the wrong route > dropped pass > missed throw > penalty

It is amazing the money the Bears have shelled out for what has been considered a complete lack of effort and discipline with regression and disappointment throughout the roster. Check out the top 10 contracts (in terms of overall value): 1. Mack (141M), the highest paid defensive player in football, gets his huge contract and has been a huge disappointment this year for the money. He had no stats against the Rams. Not a single hurry, pressure, tackle, etc. That is hard to do. 2. Fuller (56M), the 2nd highest salary on the team, a complete regression from last year. He is actually losing us games. The one thing he still is good at is dropping easy interceptions. 3. Whitehair (51M), the 3rd largest contract on the team. I don't see him mauling DLinemen or doing much out of the ordinary to be worth this contract. However, he is at least playing average, but well below this value. 4. Hicks (48M), deserves the money, but is on IR, so we are getting zero production from his contract. 5. Goldman (42M), signs a big extension and turns into a ghost. Everyone was touting him as a Pro Bowler and he is barely noticeable on the field. 6. Robinson (42M), he is probably the only offensive player earning his pay. However, he needs to be the leader and clean up that WR room. 7. Leno (37M), what a waste of money. Lazy player who had one good year and got paid and has completely regressed to his lazy and undisciplined ways. 8. Burton (32M), yes that guy. 8th biggest contract on the team. What a waste of a roster spot and cap space. 9. Massie (30M), it's crazy to think we have 3 of our Offensive Linemen in the top 10 for contracts on the team and that is what we get for it. Massie is worth cutting at this point. I would do whatever I could to move him in the offseason for anything. 10. Trubisky (29M). It's kind of ironic that #10 is #10 here. Regardless of the team around him, he has regressed as a QB to the point where he is below replacement level and should not be a starter in this league. I am sure they will accept his 5th year option (which is only guaranteed for injury), just to push the narrative along further that they made the right selection in 2017.

The O-Line is absolute crap, holy cow. I don't know how you can evaluate anything with that Line. It truly is offensive. I am glad to see Horsted up. I think he can make a difference in the passing game.