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Yeah, it was very long, but some eye-opening comments.

A great article, a lot to digest. The Bears didn't bring in any QBs for private workouts. https://t.co/0UtH9OnYKG?amp=1

I get that LB's traditionally have the most tackles, but when it's that much higher than half your defense, that's a problem. He also had more impact plays, so it was not just tackles. Mack isn't even being double-teamed very much and he still didn't make any plays. The Lions lost Wagner to injury and neither Mack nor Floyd could do much against a backup. That's not good. Floyd is a waste of a body on the field. I would bring someone else in like Vaughters instead. We didn't pay Mack all that money to just draw double teams. He is severely underproducing and that contract looks like an albatross now. Again, if you didn't know who he was and just watched the games this season, you would not know he is the highest-paid defensive player and supposed top 3 defensive player in the league. With Hicks and Trevathan out, we really need him to step up and be the disruptive force we have seen before. Right now Skrine has been our most consistent DB which is scary. Fuller has had a couple of nice plays but for the most part has been underwhelming. Our safety play has been ok, mainly because of HHCD. Jackson seems like he is struggling in this Pagano scheme (or playing not to get hurt). I am assuming the difference is last year they just put Amos in the box and let Jackson roam. This year he has different responsibilities and is struggling. There are two sides going forward. There is no way he will command top dollar if he keeps playing like this (last year will be considered a fluke), but at the same time, do you want him if this is who he is? Turnovers are very luck oriented. So time will tell, but just based on trends, he is going the wrong way.

Mongo, There is no way you are going to know how a draft is going to play out. Draft boards are not created with players who the team feels will be there. If they did that, every draft board would be flawed with huge holes. There are few times where you can take a player off the board as a consensus #1 when you are picking #10. However, no one even knew if CLE would draft a QB or not. It comes down to the fact that Mahomes was their #1 QB and they got him. It was as easy as that. About trading up, they traded 2x firsts to move up. They were not even in a position to draft Mahomes with their original pick. They gave up what they could and did. To move up any further would've been a Hershel Walker type of trade that most teams just don't do anymore.

Apparently they are a mirror image of each other: https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/11/10/nfl-rams-twitter-react-week-10-loss/ The only difference is the Rams just paid Goff a crap ton of money and the Bears can move on from Trubisky.

Yeah, if you read some of the articles from the 2017's, KC brought in several QBs for this long session (6-8 hrs). It's funny because most of the articles mention Mahomes standing out and even Andy Reid mentioning Watson, but nothing Trubisky. Also, KC was locked in on Mahomes as their pick (if available) for months leading up to the draft. Check out these articles here: https://sports.yahoo.com/chiefs-finally-found-franchise-quarterback-patrick-mahomes-165452074.html https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/vahe-gregorian/article224263285.html Most of the articles I have read stated that Nagy met with Trubisky a few times, in KC and in Indy before the draft. The team also did that with other QB prospects and liked Mahomes and Watson better. It doesn't matter now, can't undo history. Hopefully, the team can salvage something this year and make the right moves to be competitive next year. Unfortunately, we are teetering on implosion mainly because Pace drafted the wrong QB 3 years ago.

I was talking about during the draft. KC had Mahomes as their #1 QB.

Back to original topic: 1. Fix O-Line: Keep going with O-Line adjustments, we will need to see what we can do with Leno and/or Massie. Once these guys got paid, they got lazy. I like the Whitehair move back to Center and I think the line will get better as the season goes on with this combination. 2. Fix the TE position: This is absolutely broken. We need some playmakers. When JP Holtz is your best TE, you have a problem. We can't go into next season with Burton and Shaheen as our TEs. Shaheen will be cut as he was a healthy scratch today. So you have to figure out what to do with Burton and his ridiculous contract. I would not be opposed to cutting him and eating whatever salary cap you have to. 3. Do not bring Floyd back, and I would consider only bringing him in on obvious passing downs (3rd and longs) for the rest of the year. He gets manhandled by pretty much any offensive player blocking him. Every now and then his name is called when a QB holds the ball too long, but that's it. 4. Replace Special Teams Coach: there is no way we should have punts blocked as many times as we have. This has to be fixed. 5. Unless the Bears win 10 games and Trubisky is the reason they win some games, you have to bring in competition for him this offseason and draft one in 2020. The only way I would go with Trubisky is if he actually shows some progression in his development by the end of the year. I want him to carry this team when we need him to. Consistency would also be huge to see. 6. Play calling: If this anemic offense is due to play calling, you have to bring someone else up or in to takeover play calling. It's hard to assess this objectively with how bad some of the offense components have performed. 7. If you are looking to shake up the organization, you have to start with Pace. It's his roster construction and contracts. Obviously a new GM might want his own HC, so this would more than likely start a domino effect. However, I don't know how you move on from Nagy before moving on from Pace.

Kwiatkoski comes in off the bench and leads the team in tackles (9), has the only turnover (1 INT), a sack, and a PD. Jackson? 2 tackles and 1 PD. Mack? 2 tackles. Floyd? 2 tackles. Nichols and Goldman, each with 1 tackle each. RRH? Zero stats. So Kwit had more total stats than Jackson, Mack, Floyd, Nichols, Goldman, and RRH COMBINED!!!! That is ridiculous. Now a few others played pretty good, Prince, Nick Williams, Skrine, HHCD, and even Smith. but we need our stars to step the "f" up. I assume Trevathan is gone for the year after that grotesque injury to his arm (What's up with all the elbow injuries on this team?), so it will be interesting to see how Kwit does as the starter for a longer period of time. He may be the guy we are looking to bring back at ILB next year, so let's see what he can do. So far, I don't know if you can play much better when asked to.

Wow, I thought Trubisky was bad. Goff looks even worse thru 3 quarters. 15-28, 53.6%, 1 INT, 3 sacks, 1 fumble lost. Also, Goff never looks to run, he has one run longer than 5 yards, so the Bears won't need to have a spy on him. TJ Watt has 1.5 sacks, so if Mack can't get going against them, I fear he never will. The Rams defense is taking away the running game and making Rudolph beat them threw the air. I can see next week going to be an ugly game with either team scoring 20.

NYC, I see this more on Pace than anyone. Just look at the roster. Nagy was given a QB that he didn't want and who is severely limited in what he can do. The team is basically completely devoid of talent at the TE position and the Offensive Line is one of the worst in the league. There are 3 players that would be of interest to other teams on offense at this time: ARob, Montgomery and Whitehair, that's it. That's how you know its bad. Now Nagy is not without faults, he is a new HC, and he has a long way to go as a play-caller, but at some point, players have to make plays. The Bears receivers lead the league in drops and the offensive line is one of the most penalized in the league. I don't care how good you are, those are tough to overcome. Then you have Trubisky who is nowhere near where he should be as the #2 pick in his 3rd year. He rarely overcomes someone else's mistake. That's huge as a QB. Make a damn play when things are not going good. This has rarely happened. So just think if you are Nagy, you have Trubisky as your QB, that Offensive Line, a black hole at TE, and you are expected to salvage something from that. It's like making a cake with pudding. Everything has to work for a play to work. You can see that when it happens on scoring drives. However, it's all or nothing right now. When it's nothing, someone is almost always making a mistake. I will hold judgment on Nagy until after this season, but if someone had to go for me today, it would be Pace 1st, then Trubisky.

There were at least signs today that Trubisky is feeling at least a little more comfortable in the pocket and seeing the field. Now his big thing is stepping up in the pocket and not taking a sack outside of the pocket, just throw the damn ball into the stands. It almost seems like he doesn't want to hurt his passing stats so he just tucks the ball and takes the sack when there is enough time to just loft it to the sidelines. Does he not understand that once he is out of the tackle box that he can throw it away?

The play call on 3rd and 1? Nagy is coaching scared and it is rubbing off on the players. The only positive is that Mitch went another game without an INT. On defense, Kwit seems like the only player that gives a damn. He was all over the place and even making ST tackles.

A win is a win, but holy hell that was way too close against a bad team. They had the ball in the RZ with a chance to tie/win after our offense and defense had several chances to put the game away. A lot of things to fix. We will see what the Rams look like against the Steelers at 3:25.

This team deserves to lose this game. 60 yards allowed in less than 1:30.

Lions easily moving the ball against this BS defense. 50 yards in less than 40 seconds.

So Nagy played not to lose. Detroit gets ball back with 1:37 left needing a TD to tie/win.

So here we are. Lions are without Stafford and Johnson and they have the ball at the 50 down by 7.

This offensive line is hot garbage. WTF. They allow pressure regardless of how many rushers.

It's crazy to think the last game the Bears won, Kwit started, and here he is again making plays. So the Bears have 3 TDs, one on a short field thanks to Kwit's INT. Trubisky has made some nice throws but just missed ARob on what would've probably been a 70+ TD pass. He overthrew him. I guess I can't complain because Trubisky has not really thrown a bad ball where it could've been intercepted.

It's really odd because it normally gives them a favorable defense to play against.

The Bears have what feels like their first scoring drive in weeks and go into halftime with a 7-6 lead. Trubisky finally starts to make passes and Braunecker catches a great pass in the end zone for the first TD by a TE this year. I don't know why they just run a 2-minute offense all game.

Kwit in for Trevathan and already making plays. Just bull rushed O-Lineman and had a PBU. Hilarious, defense makes a stop on 3rd Down, DET fakes like they are going for it. Runs punt team onto field while our defense stays there. They kick to no one and down it inside the 5.

After seeing Driskell, he is already better than Turdbiscuit. As we needed any more injuries, but Trevathan is probably done for year. He landed awkwardly on his left arm when he went for a sack and it bent the wrong way.

Guess what, our first drive, 3 and freaking out. Seriously, I am so done with this crap offense.