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Compare to Mahomes' INTs, of his 12 INTs, he had at least 3 bad reads, and some other terrible throws. Oddly enough, very similar to Trubisky's. 1. BAL - Under pressure, just throws it up (bad throw) 2. CLE - Under pressure, long INT at end of half (bad throw) 3. LAR - Lazy form, throws right to defender (bad throw) 4. LAR - Arm hit 5. LAR - Under pressure, long throw, underthrow (bad throw) 6. CIN - Throws into triple coverage (bad throw/read) 7. DEN - Overthrow (bad throw) 8. NE - Throws right into LB (bad read) 9. NE - Under pressure, throws into triple coverage in end zone (bad read) 10 JAX - Terrible overthrow (bad throw) 11. JAX - late throw (bad throw) 12. OAK - deep underthrow (bad throw)

That is correct, 11th and 16th for a 10th and a 14th.

Yeah, and from the last reports, he if finally building a rapport with Trubisky as they seem to be getting more and more on the same sheet of music.

Really good video, but I will say the pre-snap read is overrated if you just care about zone vs man. Just because a defender does or does not follow an offensive player doesn't automatically mean they are in a zone or man scheme. Defenses show something pre-snap (like man) and drop into zone after the snap all the time. Also, individual defenders can be in man (top DB following top WR) while the rest of the defense is in zone. The big takeaway is the safety positioning. When a Safety intercepts a pass, it is almost always a bad read. If any other defender does, it is normally is a bad pass. I always felt that some of Trubisky's issues dealt with the play calls themselves. I have seen plays where all the receivers seemed to have the same progression, instead of short, intermediate, long, dump off options. They all seemed to be the same. That changed at some point in the season, maybe when Trubisky was able to handle it and process it (knowing where guys will be). I think Nagy shifted away from single reads as the season went along. Also, I really feel like Trubisky's reading defenses thing is also a little exaggerated. If he had so many bad reads, most of his mistakes or INTs would show that, but they didnt. Check out Trubisky's interceptions from 2018: 1. SEA, deep sideline pass, underthrow (bad pass) 2. SEA, balled tipped 3. ARZ, balled tipped 4. MIA, deep middle, (bad read from video) 5. NE, scramble play (bad pass) 6. NE, deep pass, great one-handed play by defender (bad pass) 7. BUF, wrong route, no offensive player within 10 yards (miscommunication or bad pass) 8. MIN, should have been pass interference on defense (good pass, bad call) 9. MIN, wrong route (miscommunication or bad pass) 10. LAR, terrible pass, overthrow by 10 feet (bad pass) 11. LAR, an out, defender undercut it, (bad pass, maybe a bad read too) 12. LAR, overthrow (bad pass) So out of 12 interceptions, the only clear misread was the one in the video (vs MIA). Maybe the 2nd one vs LAR was too, but not many more. So I think the whole Trubisky can't read defenses things was a little overblown. Most of his INTs were due to bad passes (mainly over or under throws).

MadLith, you can keep Def and K, same thing applies, you lose the round earlier.

See article below. I got spammed for comparing Anthony Miller to a young Antonio Brown, but it's surprising more people have not seen the similarities. In a way, Miller is already ahead of Brown. Brown took 3 years to get to 7 TDs, Miller did it in his rookie year with a bum shoulder. Brown was not WR1 until his 4th season, so Miller still has time to get there. Robinson, Miller, and Wims are all 25 and under. That would be a great trio to ride on for the next decade. Compare Brown/Miller in their last two years of college football: Miller 191-2896 yds, 15.2 YPC, 32 TDs Brown 203-2196 yds, 10.8 AVG, 16 TDs Basically the same receptions with Miller having 700 more yards, over 4 more yards per catch and double the TDs. Fast forward to their rookie seasons and Brown barely sniffed the field (16 receptions for 167 yds). https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/players-who-could-be-primed-for-a-big-leap-in-year-2/

Draft order messed up? I am assuming the currently listed draft order is not correct? I am assuming the order should be the reverse order of the league from last season. This is how the season ended last year (correct draft position): 1. My Deflated Balls (10th) 2. Domination Inc (9th) 3. Cali Bears (8th) 4. PapaBear (7th) 5. Nopper (6th) 6. The Mad Lithuanians (5th) 7. The Bunny (4th) 8. Run dem pockets (3rd) 9. Victorious Secret (2nd) 10. Pepe (1st) Current listed draft order on Yahoo: 1. The Bunny 2. Cali Bears 3. Pepe 4. Domination Inc 5. Run dem pockets 6. SUPERBEARSSUPER 7. Nopper 8. PapaBear 9. The Mad Lithuanians 10. El Dragon

Bears kicking comp going better than expected. Pineiro has a slight edge in % and distance (long of 63). He has the leg strength, which will be helpful in the Chicago weather. Fry will need to put on a show the rest of the way to win this one. It seems like it's Pineiro's to lose.

My Deflated Balls, Kittle and Mahomes? Man, that was a great draft. Your keepers are locked in lol.

Keepers from 2018: Pepe - Carson Wentz PapaBear - Corey Davis Run dem pockets - Derrick Henry Cali Bears - Davante Adams Victorious Secret - Keenan Allen Nopper - Stefon Diggs The Mad Lithuanians - Adam Thielen Domination Inc - Zach Ertz The Bunny - DeAndre Hopkins My Deflated Balls - Kareem Hunt

Use your final roster here: https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/442282/lastseason Also, use your draft from 2018: https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2018/198734/draftresults Can't use same keeper.

Standouts to this point have been Wims (a lock to make the roster at this point), Nichols, and Smith from the number of mentions. Everyone also keeps talking about how much different Montgomery is than Howard (in terms of explosive moves). Obviously, Mack, EJack, and Hicks are all locked in. I am actually enjoying hearing about the Kicker battle. Both hit from 60+ in recent days. I feel like Piniero has the edge with the leg strength as long as he can gain some consistency.

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/442282 Just saw the league get reactivated for the year, thanks Commish! I am tracking $30 entry fee with up to 2 keepers starting this year. Can we confirm teams to see if we need any new GMs this year? I am in, team name Domination Inc.

I am sure most QB's have passes that look like that (some good, some bad) on the same play. He definitely makes some good points (Trubisky's hips) which lead to inconsistent deliveries, however, you don't throw to the same receiver just because you run the same play. The reads can be completely flipped based on the coverage. So I think he is reaching there. Overall a good analysis, but I think some of the inconsistencies are with Trubisky's knowledge of the offense. You can only process some many things in 2-3 seconds, and if things are not committed to memory or 2nd nature, he is processing an extra thing, which leads to those inconsistent decisions. Also, how many bad throws did he really have? Let's say 2 a game that should've been completions. That would've put him at 73% completion percentage, 2nd only to Brees. That seems incredibly high. I also don't know where he gets Trubisky being terrible in the 2nd, but great in the 4th. If you look at his splits. His best quarter is the 1st, so I don't know where he got that from. He also has a better QB Rating with the lead compared to when trailing. Contrary to the video.

Stinger, That is a good point, and another thread. Who are the potential replacements already on the roster? I agree that guys like Iggy, Toliver, and even guys like Fitts and Irving are already getting groomed for a future starting job. If the Bears can pull that off, where there are guys waiting in the wings, we will be in even better position than originally anticipated. Half the time my posts are just something I looked up out of my own curiosity and thought it would be worthwhile to share.

Everything points to him having a great year, so if he doesn't, he would be a prime candidate for a change in scenery trade.

I find it funny that the media paints us into cap hell next offseason when in reality, after a few pieces moved, we are easily under the cap. As long as we pay the right players (Jackson) and let the others walk (Amos, Howard), while drafting at least average, we should be in a good place for a long time.

AZ, good supporting info. Pretty crazy to think how many players had less than stellar numbers their first few years. Also, consider Mahomes, only 1 game played as a rookie, 0 TDs, 1 INT, 62.9% and a Passer Rating of 76.4. This was in an offense that saw Alex Smith throw for 4k in 15 games, with 26 TDs and only 5 INTs. That would be a projection of 0 TDs and 16 INTs for the season (turrible).

If he doesn't have a huge year, or even if he does, it will tough to pay 2x Edge rusher over $40M a year (once Mack's $26M per year kicks in), which is what they will pay for Floyd's 5th year option next year. He could even be a trade candidate. I hope he excels as that would be a good problem to have after a SB victory.

-- CAUTION LONG THREAD -- I took a look at the Bears cap situation for the next few years. I keep seeing things about the Bears being in cap hell next year, and that really is not the case. The Bears don't have to pay Trubisky big bucks until his 6th year in the league, so it looks like we can keep virtually the same roster for the next 3 years without too much trouble or turnover. The media paints it like we are in dire straits after this season. With a few key guys resigned each year, we should only expect to lose 2-3 starters per year in this next 3-year window. Similar to how we lost Howard and Amos this year and replaced with Montgomery and HHCD. With that said, I looked at some of the higher priced and aging players to see where the Bears will most likely look to shed salary through cuts, trades, or free agency. Next offseason will be one of the most interesting in the next few. Mack's contract doubles and Whitehair will be a pending FA. The Bears have over $16M right now and I assume they will carry some over to next year while locking up at least Whitehair, and maybe even Jackson or Cohen before they hit their last contract year. Looking to next offseason, the top 5 salary savings could come from the following: 2020 Offseason (next yr) 1. Amukamara ($10M cap hit or $1M dead money for 2020) - saves $9M 2. Long ($9.6M cap hit or $1.5M dead money for 2020) - saves $8.1M 3. Trevathan (UFA) - saves $7.6M 4. Daniel (UFA) - saves $6M 5. Gabriel (6.5M cap hit or 2M dead money for 2020) - saves $4M That would be $35M in savings, but the team would need to replace a starting RG, CB, LB, and WR, and a backup QB. Amukamara, Trevathan, and Daniel seem to be the most likely to depart (almost $23M). Long will come down to performance and health. I threw Gabriel in there as the team seems to have signed a few guys to do what he did last year (Hall/Patterson) and drafted Ridley. $35M plus the carryover cap would easily be enough to absorb Mack's increase, extend Whitehair, and even Jackson or Cohen with room to spare. If the Bears value HHCD over any of the guys listed, there is potential to sign him as well, though that would probably push Cohen's contract extension to the next year. I have seen some concern about the cap crunch for next offseason as it looks like we are $27M over the cap for next year. That is complete BS, that counts all players signed (not top-51), doesn't take into account the annual cap increase (projected for another $10M), and assumes all current contracts will stay the same. If you take the top 51 salaries, add $10M to the cap, and carry over $6M from the cap this year, we would be under the cap with no other mods. So you can trade Whitehair's deal for Amukamara, and would then gave the remaining savings for other transactions. ---------------------------------------------------- In two years, Trubisky is on his 5th-year option, and Jackson and Cohen, if not already extended, would be due some hefty extensions. The good news is some huge contracts would be coming off the books or would be reworked to lower cap hits. Robinson and Floyd alone would save $28M and another $15M could come from Burton, Patterson, and Skrine. Again, not that we need to shed that much salary and then have to replace another starting WR, LB, TE, and CB, but we can if need be. After a repeat SB win, some of these guys may be looking for huge paydays. 2021 Offseason 1. Robinson (UFA) - saves $15M 2. Floyd (UFA) - saves $13.2M 3. Burton ($8.85M cap hit or $1.75M dead money for 2021) - saves $7.1M 4. Patterson (UFA) - saves $5.75M 5. Skrine $6.1M cap hit or $3.3M dead money for 2021) - saves $2.8M Skrine's contract is really odd, the lowest dead money is $3.3M, then it goes to no guarantee or contract after year 3. Of all the current contracts, this one is one of the most prohibitive for a non-elite player on the roster. --------------------------------------------------- I know it is crazy to think out this far (3 offseasons from now), but even with Trubisky due his $30M+ contract, only having Daniels, Miller, Nichols, and maybe Wims to resign (as potential starters) doesn't seem too bad. With annual cap increases, absorbing $20M+ of new money for Mitch in 3 years, doesn't seem like a huge problem, especially after a 3-peat. The cap increases of at least $10M per year would alone absorb Mitch's pay increase while allowing the Bears to resign the other guys to second contracts. 2022 Offseason 1. Leno (UFA) - saves $9.9M 2. Massie ($9.4M cap hit or $1.3M dead money for 2022) - saves $8.1M The Bears can restructure, extend, or let both of their bookends go. I assume they won't let both go in the same offseason, and Leno could easily be extended by then if he plays well. Massie is the most likely cap casualty at this point. --------------------------------------------------- The Bears are really in a good place cap-wise, they have the flexibility to retain pretty much every starter and key sub minus 2-3 a year for the foreseeable future while extending key contributors to long term deals.

I even think saying he is Mariota is underselling him a little, but definitely a closer comp than freaking Blake Bortles.

Here is another one: I love how he uses PFF to support his argument. Talk about cherry picking numbers. Pretty funny to look at Trubisky's first two years vs some of the current HOFers: Rodgers (first 3 seasons): 35-59, 59.3%, 329 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT Brees (first 2 seasons): 335-553, 60.5%, 3505 yds, 18 TD, 16 INT Brady (first 2 seasons): 265-416, 63.2%, 2843 yds, 18 TD, 12 INT Again, hard to pass judgment so early. Crazy to think that Trubisky is playing better going into Year 3 than all 3 of these guys were going into their 3rd years (even though not all were starters yet). I don't want to belabor the point, just interesting to see how others view Trubisky without really watching him play.

Trubisky compared to Bortles?: So what do you think?

AZ, This is my exact argument. They literally rank players with no real tangible supporting information. Is Trubisky a top 5 QB, no, but can he be? Why not? If you said he was the 8th best QB, most of his stats would back up that position. If you said top 12, same, but when you start saying he is in the bottom half of the league (16th and lower), biased views seem to come into play. Simms even said that the "arrow is pointed straight up for Trubisky in this offense" then ranks him 20th. It doesn't add up. Again, I just find it interesting that the media continues to downplay his ability but guys like Foles, Jackson, and Goff like AZ stated, and others like Mayfield and Watson are immune to the same criticism that Trubisky receives. Funny how SF doesn't take any flak for drafting like crap outside of Kittle, and paid a huge amount of money for JimmyG and have yet to see any real results. I know the injury occurred, but Trubisky didn't get a free pass from criticism for his injury which didn't seem to fully heal until the playoffs.

Grizz, The point of contention I have is that there is a clear media biased against Trubisky regardless of how well he plays. Simms said he was the 20th best QB going into this season, and there literally is nothing that supports that position. PFF ranks him low, and as you can see by the rankings, USA Today is completely out of whack as well. There are a million ways to "rank" the players. Just take this scenario for example with the couple of guys in front of him on Simms list. If you had to pick Trubisky or any of the guys from 15-19 for performance in 2019, who would you pick? Goff looked like crap without Gurley and with Kupp coming back from the knee injury, I can't see Goff outproducing Trubisky this year, especially if Trubisky improves even just a little bit. How about Carr? There is potential for a complete train wreck in Oakland and he wasn't that good to begin with. Mayfield, maybe, but his numbers were worse than Trubisky's last year. Foles in Jacksonville? This guy has never played even average outside of Philly, so nothing would point to him doing that in Jacksonville who is devoid of talent on the offense. Then Cousins, you could make a case for Cousins just because of his receivers, but straight up, with all things equal Trubisky should have the edge. Here is some info about QBR: https://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/123701/how-is-total-qbr-calculated-we-explain-our-quarterback-rating Everyone is entitled to their opinion and all the rankings are subjective, I get that, but there seems to be a consensus hate on Trubisky in the national media for whatever reason. He can't help that the Bears traded up to draft him, and he was picked before Mahomes. Nothing you can do about that now, and he shouldn't be penalized for it. I just think it is a fascinating phenomenon.