adam

I am OK with it, but with the info on these players today, it is hard to outsmart others. Looks like a boom or bust draft. Swinging for the fences. Might as well, it's not like we can get much worse.

With the No. 147 pick, the #Bears draft OL Jordan Morgan from D-II Kutztown. They coached him at the Senior Bowl. Draft trend, mainly small schools and sleeper picks. We will see how it works out.. It really feels like Pace tried to outsmart everyone else with some questionable trades and sleeper picks. We will see how these all turn out. Not what I expected.

Bears take Sproles 2.0 at #119.

We got Eddie Jackson, but gave up our 6th to get him. Now we only have two left.

Pick #112: Eddie Jackson, S, Alabama Our last pick is in the 5th round. We now only have two picks left.

Yeah, I don't know why people are hating on Trubisky, it is not his fault that Pace traded up for him. He is the highest drafted QB since 1951 for the Bears (Bob Williams) and tied for the highest all-time with Williams and some guy named Sid Luckman.

We have 4th (117), 4th (119), 5th (147), 6th (197) left Scratch that, we now only have 119 and 147 left after trading up for Eddie Jackson.

Doing the math for all our moves, we have gained the equivalent to pick #96: What we gave up: #3 - 514 #67 - 75 #67 - 75 (2018) #111 - 28 #36 - 166 #221 - 3 Total - 861 #2 - 717 #45 - 131 #119 - 24 #119 - 24 (2018) #197 - 4 Total - 900 #96

Done, I am all in, Shaheen could be the steal of the draft and if Trubisky becomes our franchise QB, we will look back on this draft as the turning point for our franchise.

I totally missed this guy. Comments from Gil Brandt: "I think Friday morning of draft week... there will be teams vying to get near the top of Round 2 to take this tight end." Also: Several NFL tight end coaches (Bears, Saints, Steelers, Raiders, Lions) were present for tight end Adam Shaheen at Ashland’s pro day. Some good links: http://herosports.com/nfl-draft/d2-footbal...up-pro-day-avav http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/03/steel...haheen-pro-day/

Unless we also pick up a long snapper in the 5th.

At best we drafted our franchise QB for the next 15 years while only giving up some 3rd's and a 4th (which we got back later) and a huge RZ target who is going to give defenses some serious matchup problems.

Interesting combine numbers, I did not know Shaheen led all TE's for the bench press. TE's 3, 4 , and 5 picked: #3 - Njoku, 6-4, 246 lbs, 4.64 40, 21 reps, 6.97 cone, 4.34 shuttle, 37.5 vert, 133 broad #4 - Everett, 6-3, 239 lbs, 4.62 40, 22 reps, 6.99 cone, 4.33 shuttle, 37.5 vert, 125 broad #5 - Shaheen, 6-6, 278 lbs, 4.79 40, 24 reps, 7.09 cone, 4.38 shuttle, 32.5 vert, 121 broad So Shaheen ran slightly slower (but has 30-40 lbs on the others), had the most bp reps, had a comparable 3-cone and shuttle. His vertical was better than Howard's and his broad was the same. I stand corrected. This was actually a decent pick, and if he can perform near his athletic capability, Trubisky is going to have a huge RZ target.

I would love someone like Antonio Garcia from Troy (OT), or one of the top WR's remaining. If Gonzalez is still on the board with our 2nd 4th rounder, go for it, draft Gonzalez and fill a need. He would easily be an upgrade over Barth.

Check out this game winning drive for Trubisky:

Combine the picks trade down. That is what Pace seems best at.

If you use the same chart for our trade back with Arizona, we win that trade as well and gain the equivalent of Pick 139. What makes me sick is the 49ers just flipped our 3rd for a 2nd next year. So for doing absolutely nothing, they now have an extra 2nd and 3rd next year.

That was a good spot for Quincy Wilson or Obi Melifonwu, wtf. There is no way Shaheen was the best player on their board. So we have now overpaid for Glennon and drafted Trubisky, and overpaid for Sims and drafted Shaheen? What is Pace thinking? I don't mind drafting him, but how does this improve our team over Miller and Sims? The 2nd round no less. That is supposed to be a starter.

Trust me, I am confused. I am just saying this has become a polar opposite draft. Either Pace and the Bears look brilliant and Lynch is ripped for passing on Trubisky, or Trubisky becomes a bust, Pace is fired, and Lynch looks like a genius for fleecing us for literally nothing.

This guy built a new trade value chart based on the 124 trades after the last CBA, which seems more accurate than the older chart. http://www.patspulpit.com/2017/4/23/153981...-chart#comments If you use this chart, the #3 pick is worth 514 pts and the #2 pick is worth 717 pts. Our 3rd rounder is worth 75 pts and our 4th rounder is worth 28. So if you give them the same value for 3rd round picks (75+75) for this year and next year, the 4th and #3, the total is 692. So surprisingly, we actually win this trade, and it is close enough to being a wash. The question becomes, was it necessary? The next team that would seem to need a QB was NYJ, and if they tried to move up to #2, it would basically cost their entire draft (at least (1st-5th). Then if you look at teams like KC and HOU who made trades to draft QB's, if they wanted to move to #2, it would cost at least their next two drafts (every pick). So in order for SF to get the player they wanted, there was no way to move down very far (for Solomon). So the Bears did not have to trade up to get Trubisky because there would not be a realistic alternative to the Bears offer. Houston's trade made sense, they have a top 5 defense, and made the playoffs, so they were a QB away from going further in the playoffs. I don't think the Bears were in a position to give up picks with so many holes to fill, but we will see. I like Trubisky, but not what we gave up to get him.

Well the only saving grace is if this actually makes us worse, our first and second rounders will be better next year (lol).

This is far from Pace's MO. It is also counter to everything he has said in the media about taking BPA, his comments about Glennon, etc. I still can't get over the fact that we moved up one slot. I would've understood if we moved to #1 to leapfrog SF who may have been considering Trubisky, but we essentially leapfrogged ourselves. If CLE or SF felt so highly of him or any other QB, they wouldn't make the trade. So if other teams were in play, they would need to give up much more than us to move up (which would be unrealistic based on the value of the picks). If you look at the draft value chart, for teams like KC and HOU, they would've had to basically give up their next two drafts to move to #2. I don't mind the pick, but there was no need to trade up one slot to pick him. Looking back at the Glennon or the Sims deals, and now this. It looks like Pace is overpaying which you can only get away with so much due to the cap and the limited number of draft picks. Also, this is almost reverse to how you build a team. You need a good core in place before bringing in the franchise QB so you maximize the years of the rookie deal (see Seattle). Going the other way, QB first, has proven not to work, see Carr in Houston, Cleveland, etc. They had crappy teams, went QB instead of filling out their core, and never went anywhere because the QB got killed.

Did Seattle trade up one pick and lose 3 picks to draft Wilson?

Who plays QB for those teams? Remember both of those teams passed on Trubisky, Watson, and Mahomes. So we will see what strategy works. Cleveland deserves zero credit, when you have multiple firsts and second every year and continually draft in the top 5, eventually you will get it right. SF had zero risk in that move, literally a no-brainer.

He also said he was going BPA and had 3 player's names ready at #3, so I would take what he says with a grain of salt at this point. We just need to win.