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I think we are going CB or WR in the 2nd.

You would never have known that he fell that far, and I don't think anyone would've questioned us if we picked Allen at #3. Also, we would still have a 3rd, 4th and a 3rd next year. If we are bad again this year, that 3rd is a high pick.

I hate sounding like I hate the pick, because I don't mind Trubisky, and I understand, you have to do whatever it takes to get your guy. So as the #2 pick, he better be our guy, because we even have to pay him more than if we picked him at #3. This is essentially an all-in move. Trubisky excels and becomes a franchise QB and Pace is a genius with huge balls and Lynch looks like an idiot for not selecting Trubisky - or Trubisky is a bust, Pace is fired, and Lynch looks like the genius fleecing Pace.

Based on the fact that they didn't even call him when he was selected, yes. We didn't leapfrog someone like we did last year. We swapped picks, there is no way you give up that to swap picks. If you have that prepared, you must know what other teams are offering, which there is no way to know.

Trade back to around 50, and pick a 3rd back up.

Again if you think about it, we gave up #3, 2x 3rd's and a 4th for Trubisky. Are you telling me we couldn't get Garappolo for that price and then not sign Glennon? It is almost like we thought Cleveland was taking Trubisky at #1 and when he didn't go, we over-reacted and overpaid to move up one slot. Think of SF, if they don't trade with us, they don't get Thomas, he would not last past #3. So we actually had as much leverage as SF did. So if they traded with anyone else (that wanted Trubisky), they would not have been able to draft Thomas. So we should not have had to give up what we did to draft Trubisky.

Here is who is left: Sidney Jones, CB Kevin King, CB Quincy Wilson, CB Budda Baker, S Oli Melifonwu, S Marcus Williams, S Malik McDowell, DT Caleb Brantley, DT Tim Williams, OLB Forrest Lamp, G Cam Robinson, OT Antonio Garcia, OT Gerald Everett, TE Bucky Hodges, TE JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR Dede Westbrook, WR Zay Jones, WR Cooper Kupp, WR Dalvin Cook, RB Joe Mixon, RB

Lattimore, Allen, and Hooker still on the board

So we used #3, two 3rd's, and a 4th for Trubisky, so why would we not just give up #3 for JimmyG and keep all our other picks?

The trade value has us losing by 170, so the equivalent to a late 3rd (which seems like a huge overpay for 1 spot). The only way Pace redeems himself is if he parlays this into multiple picks starting with #12, 2x 2nd's (33, 52), and a 3rd this year (65), and at least a 3rd next year. Otherwise, this is brutal. We have too many holes to fill to lose 3 picks in the first 4 rounds over the next two years. Even if Trubisky ends up being good, his rookie contract will be over before we will have enough draft picks contributing.

What if Cleveland gives us even a bigger haul back including the #12 for him? That is the only way this works. Otherwise, Pace should be fired before tomorrow.

After how the Blackhawks season ended, this is just horrible.

wtf, seriously, you give up 2x 3rd's and a 4th to move up one pick?

I would only do that if we could use 37 and another pick to move back into the first. So two 1st's and the #1 pick in the 2nd would be sweet. We could then go BPA twice and get a QB in the first 33 picks. That would be awesome.

I was thinking more along the lines of a Thursday Night game away which is historically bad for road teams.

Outside of 2015, his numbers are pretty solid. I am not as high on his as others, but he is still a top 10-12 QB. I think when some say he is "the best" then they are definitely over-rating him.

So that would say the Bears board is: 1. Garrett 2. Watson 3. Thomas

To me 6 is the low end and 8-9 is the high end.

We were 2-4 in the Division last year on a 3 win team. Let's just say we split and go 3-3. I think we get wins against CLE and SF, that is 5 wins with these 8 games remaining: Falcons (11-5) at Bucs (9-7) Steelers (11-5) at Ravens (8-8) Panthers (6-10) at Saints (7-9) at Eagles (7-9) at Bengals (6-9-1) I can see us beating the Panthers at home and either the Saints or Bengals on the road. That is 7 wins without too much fuss. We play our only Thursday Night game at GB, which was more than likely a loss anyway. So we end up with an extended week to prep for Monday night against Minnesota. We also do not play any teams coming off a bye week. For how bad we were last year, only ATL, NO, PIT, GB, and CIN gained more yards on offense than us (CIN gained 7 more). Only MIN, BAL, PIT, and PHI allowed less yards than us on defense last year.

So even Stinger's message could be fake, you never know.

Bears 2017 Schedule Week 1- Sept 10 Falcons (11-5) Week 2- Sept 17 at Bucs (9-7) Week 3- Sept 24 Steelers (11-5) Week 4- Sept 28 at Packers (10-6) (THU) Week 5- Oct. 9 Vikings (8-8) (MON NIGHT) Week 6- Oct. 15 at Ravens (8-8) Week 7- Oct. 22 Panthers (6-10) Week 8- Oct. 29 at Saints (7-9) Week 9- Nov. 5 bye Week 10- Nov. 12 Packers (10-6) Week 11- Nov. 19 Lions (9-7) Week 12- Nov. 26 at Eagles (7-9) Week 13- Dec. 3 49ers (2-14) Week 14- Dec. 10 at Bengals (6-9-1) Week 15- Dec. 16 at Lions (9-7) Week 16- Dec. 24 Browns (1-15) Week 17- Dec. 31 at Vikings (8-8) --------------------------------------------- The first half of the schedule is rough, but the second half seems a lot easier.