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That's what she said!

Seeing how bad the defense has been (with consistency), it would be nice to get him back, especially against the Pack. I would not mind going 3-13 with 2 more wins against the Pack only.

Team loss, not entirely on Hoyer though you would like him to step up at least once when we need him to lead the team to a win. He has had several chances. Now 4x 300 yard games and a 1-3 record. I still think this is coming down to Loggains and a horrible game plan. Jeffery, Royal, Miller, Meredith, and Howard, and we score 16 pts? I see too many routes with 2x receivers very close to each other. The field is too big to have 2 out of 4 receivers 3-4 yards from each other. That makes defending that area very easy. Also, where is the 2-minute drill with quick hitting slants, etc. I am sick of the lateral throw behind the LoS for a loss of 2-3 yards. How many times are we going to do that. We don't have a speedy slot guy for that to work properly.

Brady and Bill make a lot of players look good though.

We're 1-5 with 3 losses in the AFC South. That is pitiful. Obviously the injuries are impacting the defense, but the offense should not only be scoring 16 pts a game. That is sad. Loggains needs to go. Horrible play calling. There is no point in winning anymore games, but I have a feeling we will and end up 5-11 and drafting around 10 again.

I believe you are correct, it is tied to the O-Line, they are adding new wrinkles into the game plan. Now could Cutler step in his first week back and do the same thing Hoyer is doing right now? I don't think so.

With Meredith stepping up to fill in for White, and Jeffery, Miller, Royal, and now Howard, this offense has the potential to be virtually unstoppable. It seems like someone is open on every play and Jeffery can even make catches when completely covered. If we can convert in the RZ, we should be scoring in the high 20's to low 30's every game. Now the defense is another story.

Barth made a FG, so something is off.

Now that I think of it, no way Miami takes Cutler, which is basically a riskier/older proposition than Tannehill. If Gase did that, he ends up putting his entire coaching career on Cutler. No way he does that. The best team with the worst QB is actually Denver. If anyone wanted a Sam Bradford type of acquisition for a playoff run, it would be Denver. However, due to the history with the team, I don't see Cutler going to Denver. However, Hoyer might be increasing his trade potential before the deadline. Just a thought. If he is not a long term option, trade the one with the most value, and let the other play the season out here.

So I assume everyone has seen Bennett talk crap (again) about Cutler and the Bears, but it seems that Alshon responded: Nice to see someone step up since he literally called everyone bitches. http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/al...hen-he-was-here

Nope, and considering the move to Center, (and the availability of Sitton), we really scored there. How about Foster too? I always liked him and didn't understand why he never made the team in the first place.

Jason's head is now too big to fit in this thread......kidding. Yeah, he nailed Prescott, great job.

Go figure. Bad FB coach is bad.

Yeah I agree, and it does feel odd saying Hoyer has looked good but looking at his game logs, he has had some good runs before.

Based on Fox's comments last week, if Hoyer played well this week, he would keep the starting job. It will be interesting to see if they keep Cutler in street clothes. I am kind of torn on this. Do you play Cutler due to salary (and possibly as an audition), or do you play Hoyer with the intent to keep him as a bridging strategy going forward? Cutler is the oldest player on the roster now with Gould gone. Our Firesale would be a clown car on fire.... Who do we have that someone else would want? Young ($4.1mil)? Porter($4mil)? Miller($2.5mil)?

What is crazy is Elliott is getting all the press for best rookie RB and right now Howard is just as good as Elliott, and Elliott is running behind 5 Pro Bowlers. Elliott - 109-546, 5.0, 5 TDs, 9-81 Rec. Howard - 51-296, 5.8, 0 TDs, 12-122, 1 TD Rec

The draft will come down to where we pick. If we are top 5, and we can move up and get a QB, we need to do it. If we are outside of the top 5, I would shore up the defense and get an OT. If we re-sign Alshon, our WR Corps is fine, RBs look good, and we can keep Hoyer (if he continues to play like this) making the only holes on offense OT and TE. On defense, we still need help with the pass rush and in the secondary.

Robbie missed a 36 and 40 yarder and we lost by 6 (after going into OT). He missed the 36 yarder at the end of regulation. The kicker doesn't lose the game by himself, but Robbie had a lot more to do with that loss than Barth did in this game. In comparison, Barth missed a 54 yarder and 49 yarder after the penalty. Kicks that long are a crapshoot, but the 31 yarder he missed against Philly was unacceptable. I would cut him if he misses anything less than 40.

So I know this is basically semantics nowadays and we are in sub-packages that take this away 60% of the time, but do you think we have the personnel to play the 3-4 more effectively than the 4-3? I can't tell if it is scheme, personnel, or the injuries, but we never have a consistent pass rush. Yeah we have had a few sacks, but it seems like we rarely have pressure outside of those plays that look more like coverage sacks. What do you think? Stick with Fangio and the 3-4 next year, or go back to a traditional set?

Yeah, they mentioned he was a QB, which is interesting because I would think that would help knowing what the QB is thinking. Another thing I thought about is Hoyer got a lot more reps with Meredith on the 2nd team than Cutler did, so I assume that is why he is more comfortable with him than Jeffery at this point. If Royal and Jeffery can stay healthy, we have a pretty solid offense with Hoyer, Howard, and Miller if Meredith can keep this going. We just need a lot of help on defense.

Oh no, don't get me wrong, he has potential. He showed some flashes last year too. If he can hold onto the ball, he can be a legit #2. I agree, he looks better than Wilson and White TBH.

Rookie? This is his 2nd year, he was a UDFA in 2015.

There is a lot of blame to go around. Barth is not the answer, there has to be a better kicker on the street. Penalties, Meredith fumble (after a career game), defense like swiss cheese, etc.

Brutal way to lose, the Meredith fumble cost us 3, and Barth cost us 3. We would've been in FG position for the win there, instead turnover on downs. I don't know why they are not just throwing the ball to Alshon there. If we can't beat Indy (after they played in England last week), then we are going to be lucky to win 3-4 games total. Gonna be a long season. The sad part is Cleveland is even worse and will more than likely go 0-16. Thank God hockey starts in a few days. I will have to check but I believe Hoyer just had a better stretch of games than Cutler has in his entire career (small sample size), 3 straight 300-yard games with over 1,000 yards, 6 TD's and 0 INTs. I know he is 31 but if he can be near that level, why not go with him for a few years as we look to groom a rookie? He would come cheap and allow us to load up in other places. He is young enough to have 4-5 good years left.

Yeah, Barth has been brutal, if we lose by 3 or less, the game is on him. Now we need a TD drive to close this out.