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Does record even matter in the preseason? I actually like that we play some good teams, it seems like you can get a better idea on your strengths and weaknesses when you play better competition. When you play inferior teams, they may not exploit potential weaknesses as much.

Here is what PFF looked like last year in their final mock: 1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State 2. Tennessee Titans – Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon 3. Jacksonville Jaguars – Vic Beasley, Edge, Clemson (Fowler, OLB) 4. Oakland Raiders – Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama 5. Washington Redskins – Dante Fowler JR, Edge, Florida (Scherff, OG) 6. New York Jets – Randy Gregory, Edge, Nebraska (Williams, DE) 7. Chicago Bears – Leonard Williams, Defensive Interior, USC (White, WR) 8. Atlanta Falcons – Shane Ray, Edge, Missouri (Beasley, OLB) 9. New York Giants – La’el Collins, OT, LSU (Flowers, OG) 10. St. Louis Rams – DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville (Gurley, RB) 11. Minnesota Vikings – Kevin White, WR, West Virginia (Waynes, CB) 12. Cleveland Browns – Danny Shelton, Defensive Interior, Washington 13. New Orleans Saints – Nelson Agholor, WR, USC (Peat, OT) 14. Miami Dolphins – Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (Parker, WR) 15. San Francisco 49ers – Henry Anderson, Defensive Interior, Stanford (Armstead, DT) 16. Houston Texans – Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia (Johnson, CB) 17. San Diego Chargers – Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin 18. Kansas City Chiefs – Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford (Peters, CB) 19. Cleveland Browns (from Buffalo Bills) – Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (Erving, C) 20. Philadelphia Eagles – Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma (Agholor, WR) 21. Cincinnati Bengals – Trey Flowers, Edge, Arkansas (Ogbuechi, OT) 22. Pittsburgh Steelers – Landon Collins, SS, Alabama (Dupree, OLB) 23. Detroit Lions – Grady Jarrett, Defensive Interior, Clemson (Tomlinson, OG) 24. Arizona Cardinals – Hau’oli Kikaha, Edge, Washington (Humphries, OT) 25. Carolina Panthers – Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami (Thompson, OLB) 26. Baltimore Ravens – Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF 27. Dallas Cowboys – Jalen Collins, CB, LSU (Jones, CB) 28. Denver Broncos – Brandon Scherff, G, Iowa (Ray, DE) 29. Indianapolis Colts – Marcus Peters, CB, Washington (Dorsett, WR) 30. Green Bay Packers – Jordan Phillips, Defensive Interior, Oklahoma (Randall, FS) 31. New Orleans Saints (from Seattle Seahawks) – Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota (Anthony. ILB) 32. New England Patriots – Troy Hill, CB, Oregon (Brown, DT) They got 6 correct picks, 7 correct positions, and 19 wrong picks and positions.

It is hard to look back on what would've been with the new players since it will be a different team next year (no Forte/Bennett, etc) Looking ahead, I see 10 winnable games, and the only really challenging games outside of GB/MIN are Washington and Houston. So if the toughest games are GB and MIN, I like our chances. Home: Detroit 7-9 (W) Green Bay 10-6 Minnesota 11-5 Philadelphia 7-9 (W) Washington 9-7 Jacksonville 5-11 (W) Tennessee 3-13 (W) San Francisco 5-11 (W) Away: Detroit 7-9 (W) Green Bay 10-6 Minnesota 11-5 Dallas 4-12 (W) NY Giants 6-10 (W) Houston 9-7 Indianapolis 8-8 (W) Tampa Bay 6-10 (W)

What about Jacoby Brissett?

Bears Preseason schedule: Aug. 11-15 vs Broncos Aug. 18-22 at Patriots Aug. 25-28 vs Chiefs Sept. 1-2 at Browns http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1...8c-53cd2502d476 All AFC teams for 2nd year in a row? Interesting.

I think they said Alshon OR the 11th pick, not both. This article: https://thejetpress.com/2016/04/06/new-york...rs-makes-sense/ The article is garbage regardless and doesn't make much sense. He says the team needs to find another premier WR to go alongside Marshall and Decker, but then says "remember defense wins championships". LMAO Right now the Jets are up against a wall. They have no choice but to cut players of value just to sign Fitzpatrick, and risk losing Wilkerson with only a comp pick to free agency next year anyway. They also can't sign new free agents because they have zero cap space. So the longer this drags on the better it is for the Bears. I don't even think the 1st rounder is in play anymore.

They had just over $14mil, cut Cromartie, then franchised Wilkerson. That is why they can't do anything at QB or even in free agency right now. So the longer the Bears wait, the more desperate the Jets will become.

Due to his scripted Pro Day?

I was thinking Stanley and Robinson too.

Everything starts from the trenches, if you can protect the QB or open holes, your max capability on offense is only so high. Same on defense. If that DLine or front-7 can't apply pressure and prevent RB's from getting to the 2nd level, you will never win consistently. With that said, I am excited about the prospects of Massie and Long on the right side.

Yeah I saw an article about that, he has gained 4 lbs...... I can gain or lose 4 lbs in a week easily.

They will probably just convert some of that money into guaranteed money and apply it in later years, especially for someone like Williams. In regards to Treadwell, I would pass. We either get BPA that fills a need or trade down.

That is a tough one, if we were going all in this year, I would say yes, but it has been proven that you win through the draft. I almost think it would come down to who is available at #11.

Jason really wanted him in the draft from what I recall. Why not at this point? Secondary seems to be our biggest need right now.

If we are taking a mid to late round Safety, then I want Sean Davis from Maryland. He can play both Corner and Safety and I think he is going to be a steal. Otherwise, a very solid draft.

Can't expect much after the 5th anyway, so I would not be too worried about the QB drafted in the 7th. For the Martin pick, yeah, I think C/G is clearly not a need so that would be a waste.

Yeah, quality depth signings. Also, if Grasu struggles, we now have two comparable center backups.

Looks like we also added Ted Larsen:

Brandon Allen, QB, Arkansas (COM) Jacoby Brissett, QB, NC State (COM) Chris Brown, WR, Notre Dame (EW) Vernon Butler, DT/NT, Louisiana Tech (COM) Devon Cajuste, WR, Stanford (EW) Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State (COM) Fahn Cooper, OT, Ole Miss (EW) Marshaun Coprich, RB, Illinois State (PRO) Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State (COM) Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State (COM) Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas (COM) Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford (COM) Tyrone Holmes, DE, Montana (EW) Quinton Jefferson, DT, Maryland (SR) Cody Kessler, QB, USC (COM) Alex Lewis, OT, Nebraska (PRO) Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State (SR) Antonio Morrison, ILB/OLB, Florida (SR) Robert Nkemdiche, DT/DE/3-4DE, Ole Miss (PRI) Emmanuel Ogbah, DE/3-4DE, Oklahoma State (PRI) Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA (COM) Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State (COM) Reggie Ragland^, ILB, Alabama (SR, WOR) Rashawn Scott, WR, Miami (EW) Elijah Shumate^, S, Notre Dame (EW, COM) Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State (COM) Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss (PRI) Dan Vitale, FB, Northwestern (SR) Jihad Ward, DT, Illinois (SR) Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State (COM) WF: http://walterfootball.com/ProspectMeetings/ByTeam

Jared Cook to the Packers.

I wouldn't categorize it as a mistake. In reality, it might have been a bad move in the first place. What else could we have done, overpaid? How much more would you pay for a guy with 36 receptions and 340 yards in 3 seasons? With the extra 4th from NE, we have 5 picks in the first 127, and 6 in the first 150. So draft-wise, we are in pretty good shape. In terms of TE's, there are some decent stop-gap options out there: (Jared Cook, Scott Chandler, Tony Moeaki, Garrett Graham).

They said it was a 3-yr worth a max of $7.5, so the average would be right around $2.5 per year, which would be a cap hit increase of 850k which puts the Saints right up against the cap. So Brees will need to restructure or they have some work to do.

Kinda surprised as the Saints signed Fleener.

Another decent signing.

Just due diligence, interview everyone, don't tip your hand one way or another.