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The Bengals had 9 picks and drafted back to back OT's (and the first one has a torn ACL). They also drafted 2x TE's and have Eifert. For me, that pushes their draft down a rung. I liked the Fisher, Dawson, Shaw, Hardison, and Smith picks though. I would say a solid B+.

It basically comes down to Williams+DGB/Funchess or Goldman+White, or a completely different draft order. Williams will more than likely have more impact than Goldman, but White will more than likely have more impact than any WR drafted in the 2nd, so it may end up as a wash. You also have to wonder why the Jags, Raiders, and Skins all passed on him. The Jags picked Fowler over Williams, the Raiders picked a WR over Williams, and Skins an OLinemen over him. So it seemed like the Jets just picked him because the value was perceived to be too high to pass up. Obviously he was not getting past us because he would've filled a need.

I think it was in regards to Foster playing again in a scheme that better fits his skill set.

He could've easily went in the late 2nd and would've been gone before we picked in the 4th, 4 Offensive Linemen went between our 3rd and 4th pick. He was the 16th Offensive Linemen drafted and 3rd Center. He was easily a top 10 OLine prospect and at least the 2nd best Center.

Yeah, I was sort of projecting the 53-man, hard to see those guys making it over the current roster.

With the draft and most UDFA's signed, using our pre-draft depth chart, I tried to figure out who makes the cut at 53. The biggest battles are at LB and CB, and who plays what on the DLINE. Nevertheless, it should be interesting. For simplicity sake, I plugged some guys in for only one position even though they can play multiple. Looking at this you can see why we did not draft a LB. Also, it looks like the low end of the roster turnover would be 33% and can get as high as 45% depending on which 53-man roster guys stick (I see about 6 at risk) and 18 new slots already filled. What do you think, look about right? OFFENSE (24): QB (2): Jay Cutler* / Jimmy Clausen* RB (4): Matt Forte* / Jeremy Langford / Jacquizz Rodgers / Ka'Deem Carey* or Senorise Perry WR (6): WR: Alshon Jeffery* / Josh Bellamy or John Chiles WR: Eddie Royal / Marc Mariani - KR/PR WR: Kevin White / Marquess Wilson* TE (3): Martellus Bennett* / Dante Rosario* / Zach Miller or Bear Pascoe/Blake Annen OLINE (9): OLT: Jermon Bushrod* / Ryan Groy or Charles Leno Jr.* OLG: Matt Slauson* / Michael Ola* C: Will Montgomery / Hroniss Grasu ORG: Kyle Long* ORT: Jordan Mills* / Vladimir Ducasse or Tayo Fabuluje DEFENSE (26): Front 7 total (16) once they figure out where everyone plays. DLINE (7): LDT: Jeremiah Ratliff* / Jarvis Jenkins NT: Eddie Goldman / Will Sutton* RDT: Ray McDonald / Ego Ferguson* / Lamarr Houston* LB (9): OLB: Willie Young* / Jared Allen* / David Bass* or Brandon Dunn/ ILB: Mason Foster / Shea McClellin* ILB: Jon Bostic* / Christian Jones* OLB: Pernell McPhee / Sam Acho / Cornelius Washington* or DeDe Lattimore CB (6): CB: Tim Jennings* / Alan Ball* / Al Louis-Jean CB: Kyle Fuller* / Sherrick McManis* / Demontre Hurst* or Jacoby Glenn/Terrance Mitchell S (4): FS: Antrel Rolle / Brock Vereen* or Anthony Jefferson SS: Ryan Mundy* / Adrian Amos ST (3): K: Robbie Gould* P: Pat O'Donnell* LS: Thomas Gafford *on 53-man in 2014 (35)

Well in an indirect way it does, GB doesn't get any better and with basically zero FA activity, I think they have actually taken a step back. Detroit lost Suh and some other pieces and are definitely worse this year compared to last. Minnesota acquired Mike Wallace and had a decent draft, so they should be better this year. However, based on our coaching changes (scheme changes), front office, free agent acquisitions, and now draft, we clearly have had the best offseason. To me you have to win 365 days a year, not just during the season. If you don't have a good offseason, that can easily translate to the regular season.

Offense: 1. QB Shane Carden (ECU) 2. RB Tony Pierson (Kansas) 3. WR Levi Norwood (Baylor) 4. OL Chad Hamilton (Coastal Carolina) 5. OL Cameron Jefferson (Arkansas) 6. TE Brian Vogler (Alabama) 7. WR Cameron Meredith (ISU) Defense: 1. DT Terry Williams (East Carolina) 2. DL Olsen Pierre (Miami) 3. ILB John Timu (Washington) 4. LB Collin Garrett (SFA) 5. CB Jacoby Glenn (UCF) 6. CB Bryce Callahan (Rice) 7. DB Qumain Black (ECU) 8. S Sam Carter (TCU) 9. S Anthony Jefferson (UCLA) ST: 1. K Jeremiah Deter (Toledo) 2. LS Rick Lovato (Old Dominion)

Add Collin Garrett, LB from SFA, 6'2"-214

Don't forget about Sam Acho, from 2011-2012, in 26 starts, he had 88 tackles, 11 sacks, 5 PD, 2 INT, and 6 FFB. He got hurt in 2013 and lost his starting role in 2014. So he has the production and is only 26. I am hoping just for a top 10 offense and top 20 defense and at least an 8-8 season.

Using this method, Minnesota had the best draft from our Division, but they were aided by having 10 picks. We were second, then GB, then Detroit. Detroit only selected one player later than their projected slot (their last pick). GB's only good value pick was Hundley (and he will never play for them). Randall in the first was a slight reach and Amos is actually comparable and we got him in the 5th. Same for Detroit, they took Tomlinson in the first, yet we got Grasu in the 3rd. They took Abdullah in the 2nd and we got Langford in the 4th. The only drawback to this draft was not having more picks. My buddy who has ties to the Seahawks organization sent me a text after the Langford pick "Bears are killing it".

Yeah he led the nation in QB Rating Against, so he has the performance to back it up as well. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/...ts-cornerbacks/

Wow very cool. He had a 5th to 6th round grade, so he has potential and could stick.

That is more of a coincidence than anything else. There is no way they said "ok Emery went with Ferguson, lets correct that with Goldman". That is just silly, the media will find any angle. Goldman is better than Ferguson and Sutton, Amos is better than Vereen, and Langford has a higher ceiling than Carey.

For any draft the goal should be 3 starters and 2 subs. I believe we will have that with this draft. We actually have a chance for 4 or even 5 depending in Langford. What I still find amazing about Marshall is that he has never played in a playoff game, has only played 2 seasons on a team with a winning record, and has only lasted 3 yrs on any team.

UDFA Tracker (as of 545pm): Offense: Cameron Jefferson, OL, Arkansas Brian Vogler, TE, Alabama Rick Lovato, LS, Old Dominion Levi Norwood, WR, Baylor Jeremiah Detmer, K, Toledo Chad Jerome Hamilton, OL, Coastal Carolina Shane Carden, QB, East Carolina (#260 CBS) Cameron Meredith, WR, Illinois State Defense: Qumain Black, DB, East Central University Anthony Jefferson, S, UCLA (#177 CBS) Olsen Pierre, DT, Miami Sam Carter, S, TCU

Here is my updated draft value analysis, 5 out of 6 picks were great picks with 1st-3rd round grades. Name/Pick/Big Board/Value White 7 - 7 = 0 Goldman 39 - 27 = +170 pts Grasu 71 - 61 = +57 pts Langford - 106 - 86 = +78 pts Amos - 142 - 77 = +170 pts Fabuluje - 183 - 311 = -18.2 pts Total = +456.8 (+mid 2nd round pick, #44), So Pace got the equivalent to an extra 2nd round pick (#44).

He seemed to be the biggest reach as he was rated as a 7th UDFA.

CB or LB

Another value pick that fills a need. 77th ranked prospect selected at 142 that fills a need.

Derron Smith or Ekpre

Seems to have a higher ceiling than Carey: http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/20...remy_langf.html

or it means Forte's days are really numbered.

If he is going BPA, Langford was selected 20 slots after his big board ranking (CBS Sports).

There goes Flowers, Williams, Petty, and Sample (I really liked Sample).